There is a rampantly liberal underlying message to this video (”if you care about sick people getting health care, you have to vote”), but the message is a good one. If you want to complain about the government the least you can do is take the time to vote for whoever you dislike the least. So whether you’re a whiny liberal, a warmongering conservative or, like me, a pragmatic, peaceful and compassionate libertarian, go for it. Google has set up a great website to register here. You can see more info on the film here as well.
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wrong video… its of loopt on the iphone
Peter
http://www.thewebwar.com
it sure was. fixed.
Check out the last SARAH SILVERMAN video about OBAMA & JEWS IN FLORIDA.
It’s hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk
You should also check out the last SARAH SILVERMAN video about OBAMA & JEWS IN FLORIDA.
It’s hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk
In all seriousness, why vote for president if (a) you don’t like either candidate, and (b) you live in an ultra-blue (or ultra-red) state where 1 vote truly wouldn’t matter?
I’m not saying I wont vote (because I will). Just seems like the system is flawed.
Commercials like this don’t really help, IMO.
@Erik I couldn’t agree more
Makes sense, but everyone has to lean towards one candidate to some degree and apathy is no way to treat that.
Because if everyone had this mentality we’d be even more screwed than we already are…
But everyone does not have that mentality, and you voting won’t change everyone else’s mentality.
The simple fact is that in a country of 300 million people, your vote really doesn’t matter.
Well if all the people here had this attitude and share it with their friends or other site visitors and convinced them … then 1 vote turns into 10 … 20 … 100 … and when you’re dealing with districts and exit polls … they can add up and cause ripple affects. If you vote and care to express your views, who knows how many people you can convince.
It’s like saying I won’t watch a tennis match coz one guy wins it all the time. You watch it for the process and the outside chance that you can be part of something miraculous. What if, this is the year, that the norm changes? Don’t you want to be part of it?!
You really don’t lose anything if you vote, but you stand to lose being part of history if you don’t. That’s a no-brainer to me right there!
You’re right.. That’s why I don’t watch those type of tennis matches. I just wait for the highlights on SportsCenter :p
You’re right! That’s why I’m excited to win wimbeldon this year by watching it on tv!
States like those that are ultra-red or ultra-blue are that way precisely because moderates like yourself sit on your asses come election time. Thanks a lot. Try getting off your ass once in a while, calling up your friends, getting them to vote too, and watch those election results change.
Cause if you dont vote then some redneck’s vote is going to count for more and you have a second Bush, Congratz!
You’re right, and the only way to fix this is through Instant Run-off Voting method (or similar), and abolishing the electorate in place of a popular vote.
I’m not voting. I am not ashamed, either. I even live in a swing state.
The fact is, the odds of being the decisive voter are infinitesimally small. Unless you enjoy voting for its own sake (like cheering for your favorite team while watching them on TV), it is not worth voting. You will not change the outcome.
And for the unimaginative who say “What if everyone thought like you?”, well, if no one else voted, then I would vote, because my chance of being decisive would be much higher.
The reality is that most people like yourselves are the disenfranchised but the reality of it is is that your lazy. you claim that it wont make difference and its just what the opposition wants you to believe so as you and your like minded friends out there think that your vote wont count your right because your not voting and the opposition is counting, counting on you not voting.
Your comment is one of ignorance and selfishness. its your right to vote and your going to just throw it away, You should just pack your bags and hop on the next plane out of the country.
Voting is one of the most important things you can do in your life. There are many other countries out there where voting is forbidden or severly frowened upon with consequences of jail and or death for voting against the ruling elite.
Yeah throw away your citizenship, who needs citizens like you anyways get on a boat and commit political suicide.
Agreed, but i think if you vote you have more of a right to complain.
There’s other parties, right?
What’s the point? Because there are a ton of people in your state that say the SAME EXACT THING! And those people winning in your state love it that way. If you decide to get off your ass maybe you won’t win in a month, but the percentage won’t be as huge which gives even more people a reason to try next time and maybe at least then you can change.
I live in Washington state and before 1988, we were a solid Red color. But slowly we came around and we’ve voted Democrat for every Presidential candidate since. Though, we’ve only won by a few hundred thousand or less votes every year. So we Dems can’t just know that we’ll always vote that way and stay home either.
Do something. What will it hurt? At least it will give you a right to complain the next four years which you should forfeit if you stay at home and play video games for an hour more of your life instead of trying to make this place better.
At least Register now so you have the option to vote next month when you might care instead of throwing away your chance this week!
Why, oh, WHY, can’t the US get it’s head out of its *** and make it easier there to be more political parties to choose from. For example, there are 13 to choose from in Denmark, and Europe is full of such examples. Every vote counts there.
As it is, for example, you get the fiscal conservatives yet social progressives lumped together with the religious nutters, on the right, for example, in the US. Doesn’t make sense to lump these groups together. There needs to be more parties, surely.
caring for sick people who need healthcare is rampantly liberal? I thought it was just a general human concern. Guess not. I really need to move to Scandinavia…
it is, but republicans and libertarians don’t consider people who weren’t born as well-off as them to be “human.”
oooh good one.
That or we just don’t think the Federal Government should be involved, considering it fucks up every industry it touches.
But keep pretending that people who don’t vote the way you do are void of a soul…it shows the depth of your understanding of government.
Do you REALLY think that conservatives hate people just because we don’t think the government is the best avenue for helping them? REALLY?
yes, yes, i do. considering the “market” is causing millions of people in america to become sick and die without proper medical treatment, i’d say yes, people who are against universal health care are shamefully uncaring.
q: what do you call a libertarian who wants poor people to get medical care?
a: a democrat.
“Affordable Housing” gave us the current financial crisis.
“Social Security” will give us another
Looking forward to “Universal Health Care” fallout as our biggest hit yet!
q. What do you call a veteran who has been treated at a government-run hospital?
a. a Republican
see, someone with values would think that making sure elderly and disabled people have homes and food (social security) and making sure people with expensive medical problems or people born poor get medical care (universal health care) is more important than a 2% drop in the stock market and a couple bank buyouts. your financial crisis is absolutely NOTHING compared to the current health care crisis.
veterans used to be slam-dunk republican supporters, but since the iraq war, people enter the military as republicans but new veterans are about 50/50 obama supporters. interesting that you’re criticizing underfunded veterans hospitals. are you saying they need more funding or that veterans should just take care of their wounds at home?
@jrrrl 2% drop? This is $700 BILLION of taxpayer money, PLUS a 15+% drop SO FAR in the stock market and millions of jobs lost because of this financial crisis.
LOCAL government and LOCAL charities are much more competent, transparent and accountable than the federal government.
THOSE are the organizations that I support wholeheartedly in their missions to treat the impoverished. You and I AGREE on the goal….we just don’t agree on who should be left to oversee the process. That’s my point.
obama’s plan calls for oversight at the state level and states can provide whatever insurance options they choose. universal health care only mandates that everyone has a health care option available (and requires some sort of health care for children).
health care is left in the hands of states right now and they’re failing miserably, just like they failed with civil rights for women and black people. the states and local governments don’t have the resources. only massachusettes has anything close to universal state-level health care. saying local government should be in charge of universal health care is the same as saying our health care system right now is fine.
you know if the federal government doesn’t step in, poor kids born in alabama and wyoming and wherever will go through almost all their lives without any sort of health care.
jrrl:
So the states are failing miserably now, but in Obama’s plan, the states will have oversight. Hmm, sounds wonderful.
You know, if the federal government would tax me less, perhaps I would have some extra money to send my brother, who can’t afford health care, rather than waiting for a hand-out from the government.
I love how your anti-capitalist, anti-free market thoughts have blinded you to what our capitalist society has created — one of the most successful economies in world history, even with the latest problems (which were brought on by … the federal government’s artificially cheap money lending). Without such a successful economy and society, where do you think the healthcare industry would be right now? They sure as hell wouldn’t the drugs and life-saving abilities they have today. All because of those stinking capitalists…
You’re right, let’s insert the federal government. “What could possiblie go wrong?”
MGZ
If US govt healthcare is going to be so much more effective than private healthcare, why isn’t it?
After all, about half of US residents that have healthcare get it from the US govts. And the cost to do so is the same as the private sector gets to cover the other folks that are covered. In other words, US govts provide healthcare for the same cost as the private system.
And, by strange coincidence, the “health quality” of folks who get their care from US govts is the same as it is for folks who get their healthcare through the private system.
If you’re going to argue that US govts can provide healthcare more efficiently or better, shouldn’t you first fix govt healthcare so it actually is more efficient or better? Then all you have to do is open up the system at cost and folks will flee the private system.
If, on the other hand, you can’t or won’t fix US govt healthcare so it has the properties that you promise, why should we believe that you can and will once you get your your hands on the rest of the population?
yep.
Mike, what about your capital gains tax when you sell TechCrunch next year? I’m for Obama, but it’s worth the question.
why would you agree to that comment its becomes wishy washy towards the end…. in coherent
ps you don’t need to move to scandanavia. you can move to pretty much any country and get unviersal health care. england, china, brazil, india, germany, australia, korea, canada, south africa, argentina, thailand, france, mexico, israel, new zealand, japan… pretty much every country with running water has universal health care except ours.
yet for some reason, even our worst critics stay here…
“our worst critics” - do you mean conservatives and libertarians? the congress is democratic and we’re about to get a democratic president. 2/3 of americans polled are in favor of universal health care. are you saying conservatives are hypocrites for staying in america? interesting.
I love it when people keep saying they need to move to another country when they don’t get the free handouts that they want. MOVE already! Go try it out and see what you think. But yet they’re still here in this country. wonder why…
Vote 3rd party!!!
India doesn’t have universal health-care. What we have a is a crumbling socialist medicare like system (govt hospitals with free medical aid — where you have to bribe the duty doctors, and the attenders and the nurses and the watchman to do their @#$ing job.
But, having said that, you can still go to a hospital and get treatment for most common diseases for a very small cost. There are banks that loan you money for any major illness. It’s much less expensive, and most people don’t go bankrupt due to heath issues.
simply because someone doesn’t believe the federal government is the solution to many of today’s problems doesn’t make the person a rich, quasi-racist, uncaring prick. if you look closely at all those countries with universal health care, they are facing enormous challenges and many are extremely disappointed with the results. while right wingers who were born on third and claim to have hit a triple are tough to take. the current crop of angry left wingers are often nothing more than limousine liberals who think they are contributing to society by voting democratic and paying marginally higher taxes. neither are great for solving today’s problems.
France doesnt, u have to pay 30% for your doctor from ur own pocket.
@Michael Selvidge @jrrrl You should probably learn the difference between negative rights and positive rights before you talk, because you look like an idiot. If you think putting a gun to a doctors head and saying “you must fix this person” for the “common good” then fine. But, if you want to allocate scarce resources so the poor can obtain cheaper, and high quality healthcare, you shouldn’t run around cheering positive rights, because when you do your pricing them out of the very own good you wanted them to have.
When did this country think it was OK to think that controlling private property for the the ambiguous greater good? We should all hold a gun to Arringtons head and force him to increase his labor output because it’s for the greater good of web startups.
“caring for sick people who need healthcare is rampantly liberal? I thought it was just a general human concern.”
I care that people have food; that doesn’t mean the government should be responsible for a “food system” that provides food to everyone.
dont vote because this election will be stolen like the last 2.
We seen what these ruthless racketeers can do to an economy.
This 2008 presidential election is easy prey. McCain has already stated “Let there be no doubt, I will be the next president of the United States of America.”
not the kinda words from a man “running for office.” You think he may already know something we dont?
ConspiracyLocator.com
Figures that you’re one of those nut job conpiracy theorist. You probably think idiot Bush orchestrated 911 too.
@evan, i give. you got me there.
HackingDemocracy- Easy Prey 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVlZTWH7u8w
TruthLocator.com
Yeah it isn’t like every candidate is traditionally introduced as “The next president of the United States, ______ _____!” or anything.
exactly. Just like Hillary was introduced for the last 2 years until about 2 months ago.
I’ve often noticed that Obama usually _doesn’t_ introduce himself this way. I frequently hear him saying things like “*If* I’m elected president” — it’s a small difference in words, but it’s actually a fairly large change in politics as usual.
People hate conspiracy theorists…. a lot. So DO vote, if only to help the numbers in the “how the 2008 election was stolen” type books.
Conspiracy theory is a lazy and inefficacious approach. What we really have is a set of interests each with different incentives, interacting rationally.
Transparency helps dry this out, and the illusion of transparency obfuscates it. And hard facts, numbers (or at least the ability to retroactively count them) do add up to something.
You probably think the economic terrorism were facing today is all an accident. I do want people to vote. When this election is stolen i predict a peoples uprising. Obama is probably the hardest most powerful man to steal an election with his character and strong following. Why is obama not talking about and preparing for this potential theft. One day we will have a online transparent ballot system.
do get out there and vote, I plan on it. never surrender.
“If you want to complain about the government the least you can do is take the time to vote for whoever you dislike the least.” I can’t believe a Libertarian suggested that! Have some pride and vote third party!
Damn right! And to those on this comment board who say voting doesn’t matter in a decidedly blue or red state: vote 3rd party! At least send a message that everything isn’t just red and blue. Maybe someday, we’ll actually have open access for 3rd parties to compete…
Get out and vote! You can also register directly on Facebook: http://Facebook.com/VOTE08
liberal, those points sound like mainstream center, middle of the road. oh wait no, not in the usa, health care for all, quality education, min wage, energy independence, the environment, who wants those things? only those crazy liberals!
if the last eight years we’re bad enough to show what the gop really are, nothing will.
how do all of those things get paid for. are there enough “rich” people and “evil corporations” to pay for the existing set of coming liabilities (social security, medicare, medicaid) as well as a new set - univeral health care, 2-3% of GDP spending on the “environment”, etc? let’s move away from platitudes and talk about what the country can afford - never forget, the existing set of entitlements will bankrupt us in 20 years.
lol <3 Jonah Hill!
To make this balanced they should have included a few hollywood conservatives that are pro war and pro sick people.
that would have been more fair, I agree.
hrm no free plug for Ashton Kutcher’s startup? Losing your touch Mike
i need to find that southpark clip where with the liberal v. conservatives clip. anyone know what episode that was?
Episode 100 - “I’m a LIttle Bit Country”
http://www.contactmusic.com/ne.....#215;10x03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbAGoRRxHuU
awesome
If you care about what people who pretend to be other people for 30-90 seconds at a time have to say about this election….please don’t vote.
Those pretenders are also paid more than what most Americans make in a year for those 30-90 seconds.
Please vote, but if you let the television make your decisions for you, then you’re part of the problem.
They make that much because that’s what they are worth. I don’t mind that they are paid a lot for entertaining a lot of people….I have issue with people who actually consider them to be reasonable or intelligent advocates of federal policy.
Not sure about that one, but your comment on voting for whoever you dislike the least reminds me of Douche and Turd
awesome
Notice how the video didn’t explicitly talk about presidential candidates, it talked about the issues. VOTE for propositions and local governance. General elections need your votes over more things than our President.
Every vote, every single vote matters, because if it wasn’t for the individual mental process of each person going to that voting booth, we wouldn’t be in the $#!thole we are now.
If people are going to be pessimists, they should keep it in their own world, not ours.
If you think that people who oppose Socialized Health Care are anti-sick, or that people that oppose government mandated “affirmative action” are anti-minority, or if youthink that people who oppose “Affordable Housing” price-fixing initiatives by the Federal Government don’t want people to own homes….
Eh whats the point….some people are incapable of seeing that there might be more solutions to problems than turning money and power over to Washington DC idiots to figure it out for you.
If you think that people who propose Socialized Banking are pro-money….
not even worth finishing…
Andy S - no need to get worked up too much. There’s not much we can do. The older and wiser people get, the less liberal they become. Being liberal is probably caused by parts of the brain that aren’t fully mature and haven’t developed properly. The problem is some people don’t grow out of it.
I think the problem is, a lot do grow out of being sane.
As people grow older they become more selfish - absolutely no doubt about that
Yes, AhmedF, my crying infant has attained the pinnacle of human empathy.
Libertarianism is compassionate because it respects all human freedoms as rights. Not just the right to free speech, but the right and freedom to pursue your own goals. This freedom to pursue your own priorities, or the pursuit of happiness, is lost when government is introduced as the one to set priorities for everyone.
Government is the only entity with the ‘legal’ ability to force their decisions on me and you. The most efficient system ever conceived to day is when individuals are given the right to make free choices and voluntarily exchange their services for the goods and services of another. The efficiency of the system drives down the cost for everyone.
Those countries with the freest economies are the countries where the poorest citizens are the most well off. If you want to drive your agenda just to punish those who excel, you end up also punishing the poorest in the society.
Voting to promote human freedom is the opposite of selfish.
I guess Mike gets into heaven for reaching a tad more than 5 people. Well played, sir.
and when my tech blogs cross with politics, i remove them from my rss feed.
ive learned one thing from this election cycle - these techie blogger types will believe any one liner that gets thrown at them…
But who should we pragmatic, peaceful, compassionate libertarians vote for this year? No more Ron Paul and Bob Barr is a phony…
A phony Bob Barr is better than a real Republicrat, in my opinion.
Last thing I need is a bunch of rich people tell me to vote. They don’t worry about things like normal people do.
TX2Step - Yes rich people do not worry about things like normal people do. They don’t pay taxes, they don’t have kids, they don’t get cancer, they don’t care about poor people at all, they never donate to charity, they don’t worry about nuclear threats, they don’t care about other countries, they don’t care about anything because obviously money solves everything. Idiot.
Nice… real nice calling me an idiot. I vote for people like you to step back from the idiot and not take everything so damn serious.
I am a register voter and I am going to vote. BUT at the same time, I don’t need to be reminded to vote because a bunch of millionaires are telling me what to do. They do worry about the stuff you mentioned but like when it comes down to it, they can pay their way out of a mess than regular joes do.
TX2Step - If you live in America today, you are rich.
Rich is obviously a relative term, but if you compare the poorest in our society to even the elite from a few hundred years ago, they have riches and services that kings would give half their kingdom for. And the relative difference between someone like Arrington and a janitor is much smaller than the gap between rich and poor in previous generations or countries that do not have a semblance of economic freedom.
Quit advocating contempt of success. If you want money like Mike’s… work as hard and smart as he has… it’s America… anyone can do it… but most, like you, just complain.
hahaha… Wait… you’re not joking? huh… nevermind… call me when you wake up from your American dream…
Wealth envy and class warfare — the hallmark of the uneducated voter.
hmmm… more propaganda..
http://gatesandjobs.blogspot.com/
No, I think I am finally burnt out selecting the lesser of two evils. Maybe if nobody votes, we can just wish all these Socialists go away. (The two identical parties differ only in how they will rip us off — tax and spend or inflate and spend.)
O.K. forget about the partisan stuff - try this:
http://maps.google.com/vote/ ( with the trailing slash)
Throws and error but looks like Old skool Google logo hmmmm… I just had a flashback.
O.K. back to work.
Cheers - Eric
voterregistrationlocator.com [hee hee ;-)]
Yawn. Half the people in this are going to go back to being the same stupid they’re trying to combat with this message. Celebrites have zero cred these days. I think they actually create an adverse effect now.
To Eric and Joe,
Your votes will be counted in the popular vote… if you don’t like either candidate or are not repelled by/attracted to one more than the other, vote based on other aspects of the candidates and their parties that resonate with you.
Rob
Video/Audio response
http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cj6VIwnn0
GOVERNMENT CENTER
http://earle.esmartguy.com/index.htm
REGISTER TO VOTE
http://voterregistrar.50g.com/index.htm
Hollywood still has awesome influence. This may do more than us internet nerds think.
You’re right, check out the last SARAH SILVERMAN video about OBAMA & JEWS IN FLORIDA.
It’s hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk
except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism and communism, war never solved anything…
I eat healthy, workout and take care of myself, therefore I am far less susceptible to disease, compared to a person who eats fast food five days a week and does not exercise. Obesity is the number one cause of heart disease and type II diabetes. My tax dollars shouldn’t pay for people who don’t take care of themselves.
“If you want to complain about the government”. I liked the video, but I don’t completely agree, actually you can be an activist and not voting… You should get involved in polytics somehow if you want to complain about the gobernment, but this “somewhow” can be either voting, demonstrating, or getting involved in associations. Sometimes not voting can be a form of active protest (imagine an anarchist)
Let’s all vote Republican, I mean THAT’s a winning platform:
1. no tax + spend = huge deficit
2. anti-choice
3. anti-gay
4. anti-education
5. anti-poverty
Is it any wonder why Republicans poll so well among rural/racist voters and so poorly among voters with higher educations?
Whenever I ask Republicans why they are Republicans, they always say “I don’t want the government touching my money”. Gee, what a noble concept. Keep that with you, I’m sure you’ll feel great about your life when you’re on your deathbed.
And of course, anyone who would vote for a ticket with Sarah Palin on it no longer justifies my respect.
Actually, from the last study, it sounds like the racist dems (30%) that might swing this election.
Yes David, you are right, Democrats in general are more racist that Republicans.
Now you may crawl back under the rock you came out from.
Andy, you might want to read up. You’ll discover that, contrary to what CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC tell you, there are actually more than two candidates running for office.
Thank you for pointing that out. Make sure you vote for those other candidates. That will cement your irrevelance to modern society.
Andy, how is my vote for a third party different than half the country’s vote for the other losing candidates? Should they give up as well?
And if I’m of the opinion that the two major party candidates will have the same ill effect on the country, why should I vote for either of them?
This is the same tired scare tactic that every Republicrat trots out.
I’ll keep voting for Libertarian candidates. One day, maybe it will piss off enough people that they’ll fix our voting system so that more people aren’t scared to vote their conscience instead of for who is likely to win. (Say, Democrats pissed that the Green party “siphoned” votes from Gore, or Republicans pissed when Bob Barr or Ron Paul siphons votes away from McCain.)
MGZ
I wasn’t implying you shouldn’t vote for who you want to vote for — go ahead. BUT, what I will say is that when you are voting for extreme positions (and yes, I like some points that libertarians make, but it is an extreme position), you are basically taking yourself out of the mix at a national level. Extreme positions don’t change overnight, and they certainly aren’t going to change because 6% of people happened to not like the current batch of candidates.
My suggestion is you focus on the local level, you’ll get more bang for your buck, and you won’t spend your time and energy punching out a ticket for Barr/Nader/etc/etc.
Lastly, I think one faulty assumption you make are that people are afraid to vote their “conscience”. Again, I may agree with some element of libertarianism, but on the whole it is way to extreme for me versus my beliefs. I believe most people are like me. Being a Libertarian will succeed once views are modified to dovetail more with the mainstream.
Just remember that whatever your views are, Michael Arrington’s are better (you whining liberals and warmongering conservatives).
I never understood these kind of public service announcements. If you don’t care enough to vote that you have to be scolded about it and don’t know anything about the issues you’re voting for, isn’t it better just to stay out of it?
If people really want change, instead of supporting commercials like this, they should support instituting a voter test. Encouraging people to vote with 30 second sound bites encourages people to make decision from, well, 30 second soundbites.
I’m not saying make a hard test, or partisan test, but something like:
When the government issues a bond, who pays it back? 90% of people wouldn’t even know.
I want voters to consist of people who can suffer through 2 hour debates on CSPAN, not undereducated and apathetic idiots who want to vote for Palin because she has nice legs. So, if you want Ra Ra celebrities to keep getting into office, by all means, keep encouraging these naive voter drivers and get more sheep hopping on their respective bandwagon.
For a bit more toned down analysis, read Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World Revisited” which he wrote in the 50’s to see if his dystopia from the original novel was coming to fruition. The guy called this whole mess 50 years ago.
And for all the liberals who think that this mortgage debacle is a republican mess, check out Barney Frank blocking increased regulation for Freddie and Fannie in 2003 http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html
And for all you statist out there who think this mortgage debacle is a free market mess, check out all the regulations and bailouts the government hands out.
Why vote if you don’t care
Do you care ?
I do , andd in the end When I tell my grandchildren that I had a part in electing the first Black President , they may say grandpa is okay after all
Note to the Idiot In 2003 , Freddie Mac was not ion the trouble it was in 2007 , na if your so smart and Bush and the republicans are so smart why did they not over ride the votes in 2003, note Congress was controlled by Republicans back then if I recall
So the problem only starts when the bomb is about to explode? So I guess we don’t have any issues with any of the other unfunded liabilities out there because the US government can still sell treasuries? What a moron…go max out your credit cards…you won’t have any problem at all for a few months. Please tell us what startup you are involved in so I know not to invest.
And I’m not saying that this wasn’t a bipartisan problem…but its not fair for all the libs going off on the “Bush policies” that got us in this mess.
Check out this article from 1999: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f.....wanted=all
You guys should all check out the last SARAH SILVERMAN video about OBAMA & JEWS IN FLORIDA.
It’s hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk
“Libertarian” = Republican who is uncomfortable with how selfish his position is.
“Moderate” = Democrat who’s scared to pick a side.
Seriously, take some classes on politics.
Scaring people into voting? Some of these actors already won an Oscar. For a moment you might think you are voting for an act, just that the winner doesn’t get an Oscar - runner up, however, might. So, you better vote for your lizard - “Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard, the wrong lizard might get in.” -DNA
I’m encouraged! It seems as though there are at least some people out there who think for themselves instead of letting the media do it for them. I’ve still got to believe that the free thinkers are a huge minority though.
I plan on voting independent no matter what - since there really is no difference between the two parties that the corps own. Since my other plan of voting for the candidate who spent the least may not work too well within the independents - has anyone got any good sites that might tell me more about the independents that are running?
I now hate every actor in this video.
Not voting can be just as powerful. It lets the 2 major parties know that there is a demographic with whom they are not able to connect.
The google site is cool though =)
both candidates sucks ball. so not voting here
Here’s a tip for you. While I think you’re crazy to vote for a candidate who has already sold their soul to the powers-that-be in order to get nominated in the first place, if you’re on the fence between the two corp owned parties and you’d like the candidate who stands the best chance at doing something for the average American / middle class here is what to do:
Find the candidate that the media seems to be pushing the hardest (generally not to hard to see) and vote for the opposite candidate.
Oh man, the last part of your post made my day, thank you
obama!
I really don’t want universal health care until I need it.
The major candidates are terrible. Can’t swing your arms without whacking more of the same in the face. 3rd party or bust.
I had my suspicions you were a libertarian. Glad to hear you really are.
Let the banks and financial institutions who made shoddy deals fail and let the economy correct itself on its own. Government stay out of it. Use the 700 billion to create jobs and improve our infrastructure, not bail out reckless financial companies