Comments on: Flash Seems To Be Coming To The iPhone. But Is That A Good Thing?

By: flash components

flash components — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:50:49 +0000

why everyone keep talking about adobe flash as a virus thing for iphone? isn’t that great to have an ability to play flash on your iPhone?

By: Harry

Harry — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:03:55 +0000

I’m glad Objective-C exists. It provides a place for the remedial programmers so that they stay out of the Flex community. Just keep doing everything that Apple wants you to do, from the hardware to the software to the data service provider. Stepping outside of the Apple circle and accepting somebody else’s technologies is an act of betrayal. And the first person who calls me a troll for having a differing opinion gets 5 ApplePoints.

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Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:00:56 +0000

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By: web

web — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:27:51 +0000

please, get it straight. adobe hasn’t even finished the app, and even after it is completed, it has to be approved.
http://www.appl...s/08/09/30/adob …

buried as inaccurate.

By: Is the iPhone getting Flash? « Amnesia Blog

Is the iPhone getting Flash? « Amnesia Blog — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:22:05 +0000

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By: Mark Levitt

Mark Levitt — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:18:18 +0000

Flash is not limited to only Videos. As the article states: its possible to do highly innovative work with Flash. At http://www.ChessCube.com, we use Flash and Flex to create a highly usable interface.

In fact Adobe has made great improvements with Flex and AIR. The release of Flash 10 is going to allow for highly optimized systems.

So in my view the ability to build games for the iPhone in Flash would greatly extend our service offering.

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By: Michael Richardson

Michael Richardson — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:32:18 +0000

This is absolutely right on: The claims that Flash would burden the iPhone’s battery, or that it’s incompatible with a chip seem like prevarication to me. Full disclosure: flash developer talking.

By: steve

steve — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:54:07 +0000

Both flash (swf) & flash video (flv) run fine on the Archos media players (they use a mini-opera interface & I think run flash 9. They have no problem watching online videos at youtube & even open the videos full screen automatically.
I’ve been looking at this on an Archos 605 wifi. Will play offline or online & doesn’t matter what type of flash – games or apps (btw – I can’t find many non-game based flash apps online, searching “flash apps” brings up a load of flash tools, not flash non-game based content that can be used offline) or experimentation (a few yugop experis run pretty well on it).
Certain flash things are sluggish, but others are nice & fluid. FLV is great.
So if iPhone could handle flash it could be a real plus for iphone users.
Me I’m sticking with my archos – I don’t wan’t to phone anyone anyhow !

By: Raf

Raf — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:57:55 +0000

Dammit, people who complain about flash don’t really see the real use of it and aren’t even well informed enough. When I was on windows mobile I could easily write any kind of application I wanted using flash. I didn’t have to deal with J2ME or having to learn the windows mobile SDK. So any application I wrote for the web could easily port to my phone.

When I switched to Blackberry I lost all of that, because Adobe doesn’t make a version of Flash for Blackberries. So I can’t run any of the applications I’ve written, and it just hasn’t been worth it to make stuff for the Blackberry, since it requires proprietary stuff from them.

The fact that both Apple and Adobe are balking at the idea of Flash for the iPhone is one of the reasons why I’ll be getting a G1 instead, it just seems like it will happen quicker under Android. Apple doesn’t want Flash because it could possibly bypass their App Store, and it would get around the requirement of buying a mac if you want to develop for the iPhone.

By: Jason Kincaid

Jason Kincaid — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:41:14 +0000

It’s not hard, but it’s annoying. You have to mouseover the logo whenever you want to see a menu (try that with multitouch), and stuff flies around for no good reason.

And yes, it’s a design issue. But it’s one that has become pretty synonymous with Flash.

By: Jason Kincaid

Jason Kincaid — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:39:24 +0000

As is the vagueness of your criticism.

By: Phillip Ramsay

Phillip Ramsay — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:28:40 +0000

When I was at Apple we tested Flash on the iPhone and it sucked in performance. Assuming Adobe are able to fork the codebase and produce an iPhone specific version, it still won’t see the light of day.

Two reasons. Having a technical dependency on a 3rd party competiting technology just doesn’t makes financial sense (especially given the market at the moment and Apple products being Luxury consumer items).

Lastly, Adobe Flash has had more security breaks than any software I’ve ever encountered so much so that both Apple and Microsoft roll out patches to the operating system to cushion their stupidity.

No other software in history has had an operating system resolve their faults for them, simply due to inability to act quick enough.

Combine these two reasons and put it on the iPhone?

Adobe can dream, but it’s not going to happen.

By: Now iPhone too can Flash « Dynamic Disruption

Now iPhone too can Flash « Dynamic Disruption — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:10:35 +0000

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By: Venkat from India

Venkat from India — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:45:47 +0000

Perfect! That’s the way to go! I am a flex/flash dev myself and flex/flash can be using a lot of memory if not used properly .. And most people dont use em properly too

By: Georges Jentgen

Georges Jentgen — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:30:17 +0000

I believe that Apple might add a new distribution pipe for iPhone apps that are based on Flash/Flex that you can download from the AppStore as well. It stays closed, but that way Apple gets lot more developers on board as Flash/Flex is an already settled technology.

Then we might get a new option in Flex Builder to build Flex-Apps for the iPhone. I would appreciate that!!!

And I don’t believe that the Flash-Plugin will be open for users to surf around on the internet and watch flashy websites.

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:57:55 +0000

“…unnecessarily difficult to navigate (see the Chipotle homepage for a good example).”

Not to over quote what has already been stated, but you really think Chipotle is hard to navigate? I’m pretty sure there are better examples, but regardless it’s completely a designer issue and not a technology issue.

On top of that there are thousands of well designed flash sites, and thousands of well designed flash widgets. I doubt this will be an issue or drawback.

By: dj chang

dj chang — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:44:12 +0000

Good news.

By: frank

frank — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:43:02 +0000

What a poorly written post. How long did it take you to put this gem together? About 10 minutes?

Your vagueness on the whole topic is laughable.

By: danny

danny — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:39:49 +0000

>native applications for each of these media hubs similar to what YouTube has created.

Wow what a terrible idea! Please take your cluelessness back to Web 1.0 where you had to create specific sites for a certain browser. How godforsaken to divvy content up once again to be site/device/browser specific. bleh. Was mike out of the office today or something? How did this report from stonehenge get published?

By: Eric Baker

Eric Baker — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:59:58 +0000

Hoping that Flash NEVER makes it to the iPhone. I’m tired of Flashturbation sites, and designers that think just because “you can” that “you should.” The Flash runtime is heavy, processor intensive, and adds unnecessary BLOAT.

I prefer lightweight, efficient, compact web sites that are Flash-free, and I’ll never install Flash on my iPhone.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:00:26 +0000

I really hope there’s a way to disable it. Flash ads will render the iPhone useless due to cpu killing the battery. Those flash animations can only be optimized so much. They can’t be offloaded to an h264 decoder since they are vector based, not h264 video.

Just makes those “punch the monkey win a prize” ads that much more painful to users.

Android anyone?

By: Raul Riera

Raul Riera — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:32:41 +0000

Hmmm poorly done Flash apps makes your computer act up? I wonder if poorly done Object-C apps will make it act up as well? Just curious…

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By: Jean-Michel Decombe

Jean-Michel Decombe — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:05:39 +0000

It will be great once Flash is on the iPhone. Don’t like it? Don’t use it. Turn it off in the browser, or don’t download Flash-based apps.

Apple would look more than a little lame when Flash starts running on Android someday, and iPhone gets behind in terms of giving customers the best and most complete Web experience possible. They will have to go with the flow. It is a de facto standard, at least for the foreseeable future.

And Flash will not be a real threat to native iPhone apps anyway, especially as iPhone development matures and quality keeps increasing.