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	<title>Comments on: Evri Unleashes An Open Beta, But Falls Short On Results</title>
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		<title>By: Etienne</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2527971</link>
		<dc:creator>Etienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very detailed post on their blog about the underlying search technology that I recommend people check out. I&#039;m not an expert, but this looks like the deepest semantic technology I have seen out there. There are many specific examples in the post: 

http://blog.evri.com/index.php/2008/09/30/evris-garden-sprouts-some-search/

Here is another one that discusses the underlying search approach: http://blog.evri.com/index.php/2008/07/15/the-grammar-students-guide-to-radiohead/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very detailed post on their blog about the underlying search technology that I recommend people check out. I&#8217;m not an expert, but this looks like the deepest semantic technology I have seen out there. There are many specific examples in the post: </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.evri.com/index.php/2008/09/30/evris-garden-sprouts-some-search/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.evri.com/index.php/2008/09/30/evris-garden-sprouts-some-search/'>http://blog.evr...ts-some-search/</a></p>
<p>Here is another one that discusses the underlying search approach: <a href="http://blog.evri.com/index.php/2008/07/15/the-grammar-students-guide-to-radiohead/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.evri.com/index.php/2008/07/15/the-grammar-students-guide-to-radiohead/'>http://blog.evr...e-to-radiohead/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Not Social</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2493211</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Social</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the article here is missing point as well - though $18 M is a heck of a lot for what is now not so clear a business model.

I think most search is not so great - its a giant group think engine - google for lemmings? - for me the interesting thing here is to provide results that expand the thinking - Evri looks to reveal relationships beyound the obveious and maybe in long run also curtail search spam - i mean do i really need 10000 results ? and do i really need to search in 3 pages or 4  to get to a somewhat relevant site?

Also, lets stop applying mature company expectations to a startup - I mean sometimes beta really is - beta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the article here is missing point as well &#8211; though $18 M is a heck of a lot for what is now not so clear a business model.</p>
<p>I think most search is not so great &#8211; its a giant group think engine &#8211; google for lemmings? &#8211; for me the interesting thing here is to provide results that expand the thinking &#8211; Evri looks to reveal relationships beyound the obveious and maybe in long run also curtail search spam &#8211; i mean do i really need 10000 results ? and do i really need to search in 3 pages or 4  to get to a somewhat relevant site?</p>
<p>Also, lets stop applying mature company expectations to a startup &#8211; I mean sometimes beta really is &#8211; beta</p>
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		<title>By: Evri Attempts to Expose Content Connections&#160;&#124;&#160;BiggestLobster.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2489786</link>
		<dc:creator>Evri Attempts to Expose Content Connections&#160;&#124;&#160;BiggestLobster.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] d&#173;is&#173;c&#173;overy eng&#173;ine in public&#173; beta las&#173;t w&#173;eek, it d&#173;r&#173;ew cr&#173;it&#173;icism fr&#173;om&#173; som&#173;e top-tier&#173; blogger&#173;s for&#173; n&#173;ot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] d&#173;is&#173;c&#173;overy eng&#173;ine in public&#173; beta las&#173;t w&#173;eek, it d&#173;r&#173;ew cr&#173;it&#173;icism fr&#173;om&#173; som&#173;e top-tier&#173; blogger&#173;s for&#173; n&#173;ot [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SitePoint Blogs &#187; Evri Attempts to Expose Content Connections</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2489664</link>
		<dc:creator>SitePoint Blogs &#187; Evri Attempts to Expose Content Connections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Evri launched their content discovery engine in public beta last week, it drew criticism from some top-tier bloggers for not having enough content. That&#8217;s probably true &#8212; the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Evri launched their content discovery engine in public beta last week, it drew criticism from some top-tier bloggers for not having enough content. That&#8217;s probably true &#8212; the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evri: nuova ricerca semantica &#171; Blog del gruppo portali CSI</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2488200</link>
		<dc:creator>Evri: nuova ricerca semantica &#171; Blog del gruppo portali CSI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The site now features a content recommendation engine that publishers can add to their sites to let visitors browse Evri’s listings and profile pages where Evri will collect all the related content on a particular topic. In addition to videos, Evri also added an image carousel to its results pages, which it collects from across the Web. [more] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The site now features a content recommendation engine that publishers can add to their sites to let visitors browse Evri’s listings and profile pages where Evri will collect all the related content on a particular topic. In addition to videos, Evri also added an image carousel to its results pages, which it collects from across the Web. [more] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Evri.com: Du sémantique utile? &#124; Window on the Media</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2482320</link>
		<dc:creator>Evri.com: Du sémantique utile? &#124; Window on the Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] n&#8217;en dit que du mal, mais Don Reisinger compare ce service à Google. Evri ne sert pas à trouver de [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Jain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2481447</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Jain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Evri&#039;s data is a bit minimal could be that their main product are small embeddable &quot;related content&quot; widgets (where less is more) and not some kind of portal site. Regardless of whether such widgets are useful, there&#039;s no doubt a market for this. But I&#039;m not sure where you get the idea that Evri is a &quot;Semantic Web&quot; company? Most of their data appears to be scraped off web pages, and they don&#039;t seem to publish structured data, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Evri&#8217;s data is a bit minimal could be that their main product are small embeddable &#8220;related content&#8221; widgets (where less is more) and not some kind of portal site. Regardless of whether such widgets are useful, there&#8217;s no doubt a market for this. But I&#8217;m not sure where you get the idea that Evri is a &#8220;Semantic Web&#8221; company? Most of their data appears to be scraped off web pages, and they don&#8217;t seem to publish structured data, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Doron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480808</link>
		<dc:creator>Doron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... I usually tend to like semantic search engines (no. not powerset), but they have done a bad job. Looking for &quot;Harry Potter&quot; selecting the &quot;film&quot; I get images of book covers. Looking for &quot;the deathly hallows&quot; gets nothing - wouldn&#039;t you expect a semantic engine to understand parts of names? That is not what I would call a ample &quot;data structuring&quot; solution, and yup, $18M is a huge sum of money to produce ... that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I usually tend to like semantic search engines (no. not powerset), but they have done a bad job. Looking for &#8220;Harry Potter&#8221; selecting the &#8220;film&#8221; I get images of book covers. Looking for &#8220;the deathly hallows&#8221; gets nothing &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t you expect a semantic engine to understand parts of names? That is not what I would call a ample &#8220;data structuring&#8221; solution, and yup, $18M is a huge sum of money to produce &#8230; that</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Deeds</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480353</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Deeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys have burned through about 18 million in investment and this is all they have to show for it. Unimpressive for that kind of money. The VC&#039;s should pull the plug on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys have burned through about 18 million in investment and this is all they have to show for it. Unimpressive for that kind of money. The VC&#8217;s should pull the plug on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: "www.ShawnDrewry.com"</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480338</link>
		<dc:creator>"www.ShawnDrewry.com"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how EVRI can help Boost SEO or inbound linking. Can you please comment me back and fill me in more? :-)

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how EVRI can help Boost SEO or inbound linking. Can you please comment me back and fill me in more? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: cease</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480335</link>
		<dc:creator>cease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this is the future of web.. ill stick with version 1.0</description>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480312</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so... it&#039;s kartoo with pictures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so&#8230; it&#8217;s kartoo with pictures?</p>
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		<title>By: ScottT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480309</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don makes a few good points, but seems unnecessarily harsh.  The number of topics Evri covers is quite impressive based on my experiments though some domains (like politics) are better than others (like Web 20 startups)...  I find it amusing that in the TechCrunch Vortex one believes that coverage of Yammer and FriendFeed are indicative of likely success (I don&#039;t think Yammer even existed beyond several weeks ago...).  And the point of the current coverage seems to target newsworthy items, not generic topics like golden retrievers.  

A closer look suggests there is some serious semantic horsepower going on under the hood here - it seems more impressive than anything the much-hyped Powerset ever demo&#039;d.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don makes a few good points, but seems unnecessarily harsh.  The number of topics Evri covers is quite impressive based on my experiments though some domains (like politics) are better than others (like Web 20 startups)&#8230;  I find it amusing that in the TechCrunch Vortex one believes that coverage of Yammer and FriendFeed are indicative of likely success (I don&#8217;t think Yammer even existed beyond several weeks ago&#8230;).  And the point of the current coverage seems to target newsworthy items, not generic topics like golden retrievers.  </p>
<p>A closer look suggests there is some serious semantic horsepower going on under the hood here &#8211; it seems more impressive than anything the much-hyped Powerset ever demo&#8217;d.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramada Express Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480272</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramada Express Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks interesting...we need to give it a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks interesting&#8230;we need to give it a chance</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I think there&#039;s a very large universe of entities. What they are trying to do is prety tough. Sure you can find cases where it isn&#039;t yet perfect, but I think this is pretty cool:

http://www.evri.com/product/boeing-747-0xf4f02.html

and click on Company and then click on the different airlines. All the pictures are coming back with airplanes from the correct airline. That&#039;s not bad. Also click on &quot;explode&quot; in the left: they show you all the places for crashes. Maybe I can find it by searching around a bunch, but not bad to have it all in one place so I don&#039;t have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I think there&#8217;s a very large universe of entities. What they are trying to do is prety tough. Sure you can find cases where it isn&#8217;t yet perfect, but I think this is pretty cool:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evri.com/product/boeing-747-0xf4f02.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.evri.com/product/boeing-747-0xf4f02.html'>http://www.evri...47-0xf4f02.html</a></p>
<p>and click on Company and then click on the different airlines. All the pictures are coming back with airplanes from the correct airline. That&#8217;s not bad. Also click on &#8220;explode&#8221; in the left: they show you all the places for crashes. Maybe I can find it by searching around a bunch, but not bad to have it all in one place so I don&#8217;t have to.</p>
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		<title>By: jg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480270</link>
		<dc:creator>jg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re missing the vision here Michael.  This is about structuring the data not just aggregating the data.  Gnip is trying to be the best tool for aggregation and companies like Metaweb (www.freebase.com) and Evry are trying to structure that data.  However, both Freebase and Evry need figure out good ways to get data into their systems -- freebase with UGC and Evry with APIs and an aggregation engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the vision here Michael.  This is about structuring the data not just aggregating the data.  Gnip is trying to be the best tool for aggregation and companies like Metaweb (www.freebase.com) and Evry are trying to structure that data.  However, both Freebase and Evry need figure out good ways to get data into their systems &#8212; freebase with UGC and Evry with APIs and an aggregation engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480251</link>
		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;help users discover more Web content in the shortest amount of time&quot;?

Maybe it&#039;s just me, but these days I try to discover as little new content as possible.  Recall is not a problem any more, so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;help users discover more Web content in the shortest amount of time&#8221;?</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but these days I try to discover as little new content as possible.  Recall is not a problem any more, so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/24/evri-unleashes-an-open-beta-but-falls-short-on-results/comment-page-1/#comment-2480240</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might try the search first, for android, this would give you:
http://tinyurl.com/4e344c

Or more interesting, articles on android where tmobile or google is mentioned
http://tinyurl.com/3h2ebq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might try the search first, for android, this would give you:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/4e344c" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/4e344c'>http://tinyurl.com/4e344c</a></p>
<p>Or more interesting, articles on android where tmobile or google is mentioned<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3h2ebq" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/3h2ebq'>http://tinyurl.com/3h2ebq</a></p>
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