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		<title>By: After the Great Recession: What Will The Internet Look Like? &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2883419</link>
		<dc:creator>After the Great Recession: What Will The Internet Look Like? &#124; Redfin Corporate Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] perhaps generate more than $1 billion in revenue, in a way far less intrusive to its users than Facebook&#8217;s past ad-related blunders. Maybe that will happen soon, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] perhaps generate more than $1 billion in revenue, in a way far less intrusive to its users than Facebook&#8217;s past ad-related blunders. Maybe that will happen soon, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Online Media: 5 Predictions for 2009 &#124; Cameron Peron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2582378</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Media: 5 Predictions for 2009 &#124; Cameron Peron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] performance based online advertising. Hopefully this activities won&#8217;t scare off users like Beacon. Not only can we expect a more practical valuation of the traffic Facebook is riding, but also a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] performance based online advertising. Hopefully this activities won&#8217;t scare off users like Beacon. Not only can we expect a more practical valuation of the traffic Facebook is riding, but also a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Basic Thinking Blog &#124; Facebook Beacon: Wer denkt es weiter?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2477174</link>
		<dc:creator>Basic Thinking Blog &#124; Facebook Beacon: Wer denkt es weiter?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] habe letztens auf Techcrunch zwei Meldungen zu Facebook Beacon gesehen: Facebook Connect Spotted In The Wild. Will Beacon Finally Die? und Beacon Is Baaaaack! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] habe letztens auf Techcrunch zwei Meldungen zu Facebook Beacon gesehen: Facebook Connect Spotted In The Wild. Will Beacon Finally Die? und Beacon Is Baaaaack! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook is Evil &#124; The Arsonist: Like kids with matches, except it's a blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2476740</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook is Evil &#124; The Arsonist: Like kids with matches, except it's a blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beacon is Back. Its one thing for Facebook to track your purchases on Fandango, but just wait until it tracks and posts your subscription activity to X-Tube. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Beacon is Back. Its one thing for Facebook to track your purchases on Fandango, but just wait until it tracks and posts your subscription activity to X-Tube. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2476245</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s plenty obvious they are desperate for cash. I don&#039;t think they&#039;re gonna make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s plenty obvious they are desperate for cash. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re gonna make it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Markham - It Was Never Gone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2476012</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Markham - It Was Never Gone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The reports of Facebook&#8217;s Beacon&#8217;s death have been greatly exaggerated. Watch your backs. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Facebook Connect Spotted In The Wild. Will Beacon Finally Die?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2475688</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Connect Spotted In The Wild. Will Beacon Finally Die?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was riddled with privacy problems and caused some partners to wish they had never signed up (but never really went away). Beacon identifies whenever a Facebook member visits a partner site and allow certain actions such [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was riddled with privacy problems and caused some partners to wish they had never signed up (but never really went away). Beacon identifies whenever a Facebook member visits a partner site and allow certain actions such [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bogie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2474325</link>
		<dc:creator>bogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, Kincaid?  as in Thomas Kincaid?  the master of light?  or Jason Kincaid, the light side jedi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, Kincaid?  as in Thomas Kincaid?  the master of light?  or Jason Kincaid, the light side jedi?</p>
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		<title>By: Widget</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2474233</link>
		<dc:creator>Widget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s these programs like Beacon and the social applications, surveys and &quot;gifts&quot; that you&#039;re supposed to share with friends that end up passing personal information about you and giving you more ads and pop ups that make me really hate social networking sites like Facebook.

While I don&#039;t mind having a personal profile up on these types of sites to chat with friends on occasion, they are more of an annoyance than a benefit to businesses who want to connect better with customers and other businesses. 

I think the new trend is not to join an online community but to build your own. There&#039;s already a lot of free build your own social networking community sites out there like Ning, KickApps, and CrowdLine. (Check out Mark Hendrickson&#039;s article for the full list: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/24/9-ways-to-build-your-own-social-network/ )  There&#039;s also some inexpensive custom social network building services out there like the new &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dotster.com/products/marketing/connect/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dotster Connect service &lt;/a&gt; that better accommodate the SMB market that wants to reach out to their customers. These seem to be good alternatives to dealing with the ads, pop-ups, programs and apps that you get bombarded with when visiting the big social networking sites like FaceBook and Myspace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s these programs like Beacon and the social applications, surveys and &#8220;gifts&#8221; that you&#8217;re supposed to share with friends that end up passing personal information about you and giving you more ads and pop ups that make me really hate social networking sites like Facebook.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t mind having a personal profile up on these types of sites to chat with friends on occasion, they are more of an annoyance than a benefit to businesses who want to connect better with customers and other businesses. </p>
<p>I think the new trend is not to join an online community but to build your own. There&#8217;s already a lot of free build your own social networking community sites out there like Ning, KickApps, and CrowdLine. (Check out Mark Hendrickson&#8217;s article for the full list: <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/24/9-ways-to-build-your-own-social-network/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/24/9-ways-to-build-your-own-social-network/'>http://www.tech...social-network/</a> )  There&#8217;s also some inexpensive custom social network building services out there like the new <a href="http://www.dotster.com/products/marketing/connect/" rel="nofollow">Dotster Connect service </a> that better accommodate the SMB market that wants to reach out to their customers. These seem to be good alternatives to dealing with the ads, pop-ups, programs and apps that you get bombarded with when visiting the big social networking sites like FaceBook and Myspace.</p>
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		<title>By: gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2474182</link>
		<dc:creator>gravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah data-mining; sure click no thanks, i&#039;m sure they still keep no track of your activities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah data-mining; sure click no thanks, i&#8217;m sure they still keep no track of your activities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gravy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2474179</link>
		<dc:creator>gravy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahaha your an idiot Gebadia</description>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2474016</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s you&#039;re, not your.

I understand the concept of online trust, but thanks for the explanation.

I think you speak only for the people who for whatever reason don&#039;t understand the implication of &quot;Post this to my facebook profile&quot; that Beacon throws up.  They get angry and lose trust because of their inability to understand the consequences of their actions.

Facebook is not doing anything nefarious here and allows the user full control over what gets published and what doesn&#039;t.

If there is anyone that these people shouldn&#039;t trust, it is themselves and their understanding of the interwebs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s you&#8217;re, not your.</p>
<p>I understand the concept of online trust, but thanks for the explanation.</p>
<p>I think you speak only for the people who for whatever reason don&#8217;t understand the implication of &#8220;Post this to my facebook profile&#8221; that Beacon throws up.  They get angry and lose trust because of their inability to understand the consequences of their actions.</p>
<p>Facebook is not doing anything nefarious here and allows the user full control over what gets published and what doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If there is anyone that these people shouldn&#8217;t trust, it is themselves and their understanding of the interwebs.</p>
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		<title>By: A Little More Information Regarding Beacon&#8230; &#124; Stay N' Alive</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2474012</link>
		<dc:creator>A Little More Information Regarding Beacon&#8230; &#124; Stay N' Alive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the beacon controversy seems to have come back with a vengence, with articles by Mashable, TechCrunch, and even Valleywag (I&#8217;m actually not much of a Fantasy Football Enthusiast, but they can [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the beacon controversy seems to have come back with a vengence, with articles by Mashable, TechCrunch, and even Valleywag (I&#8217;m actually not much of a Fantasy Football Enthusiast, but they can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lolhead</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473982</link>
		<dc:creator>lolhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, u gonna take that steve?</description>
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		<title>By: lolhead</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473979</link>
		<dc:creator>lolhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
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		<title>By: Wesley Walser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473966</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Walser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like it should be noted that Tom Kincaid is not an employee of Facebook. He is a platform developer, not a facebook developer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like it should be noted that Tom Kincaid is not an employee of Facebook. He is a platform developer, not a facebook developer.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473932</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have already renamed it.  It&#039;s called Facebook Connect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have already renamed it.  It&#8217;s called Facebook Connect.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473923</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to Part II of this once people realize that Facebook Connect is just Beacon in disguise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to Part II of this once people realize that Facebook Connect is just Beacon in disguise.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473915</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your mom is default allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mom is default allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473914</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that some people live in a bubble and think that their whining about a free website is important, that someone actually cares what they think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that some people live in a bubble and think that their whining about a free website is important, that someone actually cares what they think.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473879</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Do you (and Tom Kincaid) have the CBSSports.com app installed?  It was used for the Facebook March Madness tournament.  That would easily allow CBS Sportsline to post something to your facebook profile from their own cookie rather than Facebook&#039;s.  That being said, it does look like the beacon program rather than clever CBS Sportline cookie+app intergration programming.  Facebook should take a page out of firewall rules, and make it default deny, rather than default allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: Do you (and Tom Kincaid) have the CBSSports.com app installed?  It was used for the Facebook March Madness tournament.  That would easily allow CBS Sportsline to post something to your facebook profile from their own cookie rather than Facebook&#8217;s.  That being said, it does look like the beacon program rather than clever CBS Sportline cookie+app intergration programming.  Facebook should take a page out of firewall rules, and make it default deny, rather than default allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473876</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So someone explain the problem with this? Please do better than some &quot;invasion of privacy&quot; nonsense. This is the internet, you have no privacy. And they clearly give you an option to not send it to FB. I don&#039;t know how having the option to tell your FB friends that you started a fantasy football league or played a game on Kongregate is enough to make you delete your account and get all huffy in blog comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So someone explain the problem with this? Please do better than some &#8220;invasion of privacy&#8221; nonsense. This is the internet, you have no privacy. And they clearly give you an option to not send it to FB. I don&#8217;t know how having the option to tell your FB friends that you started a fantasy football league or played a game on Kongregate is enough to make you delete your account and get all huffy in blog comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Pandrogas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473809</link>
		<dc:creator>Pandrogas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was never under the impression that Beacon was discontinued, merely put on the backburner so that it could be tweaked.  Which is probably what FaceBook has been doing.  

It&#039;s entirely possible that Beacon might one day be a worthwhile system, but they may have to change the name to get users to accept it.  There&#039;s a huge division of intelligence on FaceBook in regards to people complaining just because and the people who actually have a clear understanding as to why they are complaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was never under the impression that Beacon was discontinued, merely put on the backburner so that it could be tweaked.  Which is probably what FaceBook has been doing.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s entirely possible that Beacon might one day be a worthwhile system, but they may have to change the name to get users to accept it.  There&#8217;s a huge division of intelligence on FaceBook in regards to people complaining just because and the people who actually have a clear understanding as to why they are complaining.</p>
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		<title>By: cbeatz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473773</link>
		<dc:creator>cbeatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude....WTF was that? 
Let me guess, you&#039;re voting for McCain...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude&#8230;.WTF was that?<br />
Let me guess, you&#8217;re voting for McCain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gebadia Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/18/is-beacon-back/comment-page-1/#comment-2473762</link>
		<dc:creator>Gebadia Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your market is in Facebook, you sort of need to be there.</description>
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