Comments on: LiveBar Adds A Little Strip Of Community To Any Site http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:12 -0800 hourly 1 By: fajiqxrk aqfuzycp http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2502391 fajiqxrk aqfuzycp Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:55:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2502391 wkgy xhdn wthpzaoex ywfsoh gnyvozs njlwfse euycrgnzt wkgy xhdn wthpzaoex ywfsoh gnyvozs njlwfse euycrgnzt

]]> By: Chris Christensen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2481137 Chris Christensen Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:33:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2481137 I had to chuckle a bit at the comment that before liveworld I was "mid-manager level at best". That would accurately describe me. Before LiveWorld I had not created major internet web sites, won webby awards, managed projects for many more Fortune 100 customers that the LiveWorld website lists. Although to be fair, that was in 1996 when almost no one had that kind of experience. For comparison, twelve years ago now Senator Obama had three year of experience as a lawyer and had not served public office. You can learn a lot in twelve years. Chris Christensen EVP Engineering and Operations LiveWorld I had to chuckle a bit at the comment that before liveworld I was “mid-manager level at best”. That would accurately describe me. Before LiveWorld I had not created major internet web sites, won webby awards, managed projects for many more Fortune 100 customers that the LiveWorld website lists. Although to be fair, that was in 1996 when almost no one had that kind of experience. For comparison, twelve years ago now Senator Obama had three year of experience as a lawyer and had not served public office. You can learn a lot in twelve years.

Chris Christensen
EVP Engineering and Operations
LiveWorld

]]> By: bender http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2477485 bender Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:03:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2477485 So what are the costs? Can you give me some sense, or at least a range? So what are the costs? Can you give me some sense, or at least a range?

]]> By: LiveBar: a way to socialize your blog or your site via Widgetization | Widgets Lab http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2474331 LiveBar: a way to socialize your blog or your site via Widgetization | Widgets Lab Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:35:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2474331 [...] Techcrunch Technorati Tags: liveworld,livebar,contextual widget,community widget,social widgets,site [...] [...] Techcrunch Technorati Tags: liveworld,livebar,contextual widget,community widget,social widgets,site [...]

]]> By: open access http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2473726 open access Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:43:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2473726 Guys, Why force people to log in? Takes away the spontaneity of an instant social community. I would like to use this for feedback on products on my retail site but think usage will be limited by the log in requirement. Interesting idea though. Guys,
Why force people to log in? Takes away the spontaneity of an instant social community. I would like to use this for feedback on products on my retail site but think usage will be limited by the log in requirement.
Interesting idea though.

]]> By: HHOTT View http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2472921 HHOTT View Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:35:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2472921 We are planning to offer a free knock-off version using a different implementation - through our free award-winning HHOTT View toolbar. This means everyone using our HHOTT View toolbar will get our version of "LiveBar" on every web page. There is no need for the website owner to modify their site and pay us anything. Of course, our business model is different since we will get paid by the advertisers shown on the LiveBar. This allows us to show context-sensitive ads on every web pageWe call our own version USA - Unbiquitous Social networking and Advertising. :) We are planning to offer a free knock-off version using a different implementation – through our free award-winning HHOTT View toolbar. This means everyone using our HHOTT View toolbar will get our version of “LiveBar” on every web page. There is no need for the website owner to modify their site and pay us anything. Of course, our business model is different since we will get paid by the advertisers shown on the LiveBar. This allows us to show context-sensitive ads on every web pageWe call our own version USA – Unbiquitous Social networking and Advertising. :)

]]> By: CSSKarma.com » This Week in Links 9/17 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2472341 CSSKarma.com » This Week in Links 9/17 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:46:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2472341 [...] LiveBar [...] [...] LiveBar [...]

]]> By: bender http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2472330 bender Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:39:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2472330 Any info on costs/pricing, beyond the $1,000 set up? Any info on costs/pricing, beyond the $1,000 set up?

]]> By: Dave Land, LiveWorld http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2471039 Dave Land, LiveWorld Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:35:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2471039 Many of those "high profile client stickers" are clickable, leading to pages showing the work we've been doing for them for almost a decade or directly to the communities we host for them: have a look. Of course, some of the sites, like the Mini Owners' Lounge, require that you be a Mini Owner to join, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you buy a Mini and join the community... Many of those “high profile client stickers” are clickable, leading to pages showing the work we’ve been doing for them for almost a decade or directly to the communities we host for them: have a look.

Of course, some of the sites, like the Mini Owners’ Lounge, require that you be a Mini Owner to join, but I’m sure they wouldn’t mind if you buy a Mini and join the community…

]]> By: Dave Land, LiveWorld http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2471007 Dave Land, LiveWorld Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:08:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2471007 @AW: The timing of your comment suggests that you were referring to our homepage prior to last night's post-embargo release of our redesigned home page. And while we didn't exactly cry about it, we wanted it changed, too. @AW: The timing of your comment suggests that you were referring to our homepage prior to last night’s post-embargo release of our redesigned home page. And while we didn’t exactly cry about it, we wanted it changed, too.

]]> By: Chris Christensen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2471006 Chris Christensen Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:07:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2471006 "The widget looks nice, their homepage makes me cry." Looking at the time of your posting I wonder (hope) if you were looking at our old site design. We pushed a new website and a new community live last night also. If that's what you are referring to I certainly agree. It was well over due for a redesign as it was very web 1.0 brochure-ware. It was one of those "the cobbler's kids lack for shoes" sort of thing. --- Chris Christensen LiveWorld EVP Engineering and Operations “The widget looks nice, their homepage makes me cry.”

Looking at the time of your posting I wonder (hope) if you were looking at our old site design. We pushed a new website and a new community live last night also. If that’s what you are referring to I certainly agree. It was well over due for a redesign as it was very web 1.0 brochure-ware. It was one of those “the cobbler’s kids lack for shoes” sort of thing.

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Chris Christensen
LiveWorld
EVP Engineering and Operations

]]> By: Peter Friedman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470829 Peter Friedman Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:18:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470829 Thanks everyone for the interest and comments. LiveBar is an exciting new product and paradigm for social networking. We are interested in any and all feedback and ideas for it. Some people have asked about LiveWorld the company, its history, financials, and clients. Our core team came from Apple where in the 1980s and 1990s we created and ran Apple's industry social network, AppleLink, then eWorld. Our work there also included projects that later became AOL and Salon. We left in 1996 to start LiveWorld, building on our Apple experience to create social networks for other brands. Like many companies, we were venture backed, then went public in 1999. We managed to survive the Internet crash in 2000-2001 and grew our revenues 50%-100% through 2006. We turned cash positive at end of 2002 and remained so through 2006. For 2007 and 2008 we decided to invest in more product development, ahead of revenue. Following that effort, and as further described in our financial filings, we are now managing our business to be supported by the cash we have on hand and cash flow from operations. We're really excited about our dozens of Fortune 500 clients, some of whom have been with us for over seven years. For almost all of them we have multi-year engagements, involving creating, managing and/or operating their online communities. LiveBar adds an entirely new dimension to our business and the market. Initial response is very positive, but we intend to listen to all feedback and make it an even greater product. - Peter Friedman, Chairman & CEO, LiveWorld Thanks everyone for the interest and comments. LiveBar is an exciting new product and paradigm for social networking. We are interested in any and all feedback and ideas for it. Some people have asked about LiveWorld the company, its history, financials, and clients.

Our core team came from Apple where in the 1980s and 1990s we created and ran Apple’s industry social network, AppleLink, then eWorld. Our work there also included projects that later became AOL and Salon. We left in 1996 to start LiveWorld, building on our Apple experience to create social networks for other brands.

Like many companies, we were venture backed, then went public in 1999.
We managed to survive the Internet crash in 2000-2001 and grew our revenues 50%-100% through 2006. We turned cash positive at end of 2002 and remained so through 2006. For 2007 and 2008 we decided to invest in more product development, ahead of revenue. Following that effort, and as further described in our financial filings, we are now managing our business to be supported by the cash we have on hand and cash flow from operations.

We’re really excited about our dozens of Fortune 500 clients, some of whom have been with us for over seven years. For almost all of them we have multi-year engagements, involving creating, managing and/or operating their online communities. LiveBar adds an entirely new dimension to our business and the market. Initial response is very positive, but we intend to listen to all feedback and make it an even greater product.

- Peter Friedman, Chairman & CEO, LiveWorld

]]> By: Mark Hendrickson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470751 Mark Hendrickson Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:18:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470751 Agreed Agreed

]]> By: Mark Hendrickson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470750 Mark Hendrickson Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:17:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470750 Nope, no WordPress integration and I doubt it'll make it into the weblog community given its price. Nope, no WordPress integration and I doubt it’ll make it into the weblog community given its price.

]]> By: Michael Gass http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470498 Michael Gass Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:33:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470498 I love the product but for now the price is to high to recommend to my clients. I love the product but for now the price is to high to recommend to my clients.

]]> By: Now nearly any website can now be “Social” http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470486 Now nearly any website can now be “Social” Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:25:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470486 [...] LiveWorld announces “LiveBar” which can now make any static website that embeds this lightweight script ’social’. [...] [...] LiveWorld announces “LiveBar” which can now make any static website that embeds this lightweight script ’social’. [...]

]]> By: Bryan Person, LiveWorld http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470389 Bryan Person, LiveWorld Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:32:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470389 LiveBar's target market {seesmic_video:{"url_thumbnail":{"value":"http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/KMCRoDD0bB_th1.jpg"}"title":{"value":"LiveBar's target market "}"videoUri":{"value":"http://www.seesmic.com/video/0CbINdnJnu"}}} LiveBar’s target market {seesmic_video:{”url_thumbnail”:{”value”:”http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/KMCRoDD0bB_th1.jpg”}”title”:{”value”:”LiveBar’s target market ”}”videoUri”:{”value”:”http://www.seesmic.com/video/0CbINdnJnu”}}}

]]> By: TechnologyBlog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470318 TechnologyBlog Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:13:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470318 Man, the price is way too much! Man, the price is way too much!

]]> By: huh http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470257 huh Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:24:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470257 Anyone can have "high profile client stickers" on their site. I'm sure I swept a bathroom at some point at Google... does that mean I have them as my client? This is no different from every JEE vendor claiming BofA as a "customer." Sure, BofA buys from each of these guys, but which vendors provide critical software, and which ones provide the things one developer of an internal portal might use? The whole premise of LiveWorld is that a large customer would bet on *them* to provide a very public portion of the site. I've just seen too many projects go the wrong way from fly-by-night operations like this, and figured I'd express my thoughts in case anyone wants to avoid costly endeavors. Anyone can have “high profile client stickers” on their site. I’m sure I swept a bathroom at some point at Google… does that mean I have them as my client? This is no different from every JEE vendor claiming BofA as a “customer.” Sure, BofA buys from each of these guys, but which vendors provide critical software, and which ones provide the things one developer of an internal portal might use?

The whole premise of LiveWorld is that a large customer would bet on *them* to provide a very public portion of the site. I’ve just seen too many projects go the wrong way from fly-by-night operations like this, and figured I’d express my thoughts in case anyone wants to avoid costly endeavors.

]]> By: Ian Mikutel http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470249 Ian Mikutel Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:00:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470249 Surprised their business model doesn't provide non-commercial or less featured version for free use. Seems to me that could generate more use and acceptance of a product like this, and ultimately help improve their bottom line. Anyone agree? Surprised their business model doesn’t provide non-commercial or less featured version for free use. Seems to me that could generate more use and acceptance of a product like this, and ultimately help improve their bottom line.

Anyone agree?

]]> By: AboutOnlineTips http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470247 AboutOnlineTips Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:49:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470247 Is there any plugin available for wordpress blog for this? Is there any plugin available for wordpress blog for this?

]]> By: anon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470244 anon Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:43:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470244 Aside from the $1000 setup fee, do you have any info on the pricing structure or the infrastructure that drives LiveBar? This seems like an interesting service, but it also sounds expensive and unruly. Taking into account chat, numerous highly trafficked sites will cause a serious load. Building a highly available, redundant, and scalable infrastructure costs megabucks and I wonder if LiveWorld has the proper backing to make this work. Also, I don't really understand the differentiation between 'conversations', 'soapboxes', and 'shouts'. Especially considering the screens show people engaging in conversation within the 'shouts' section. For practical purposes, they are all the same thing. I suggest they cut the marketing bs and build a well designed and usable product. Lastly, excluding the social components, it would be fairly easy to make an open source clone of this suite and make it available to anyone running LAMP. You would need a centralized DB to create social context across multiple sites. Aside from the $1000 setup fee, do you have any info on the pricing structure or the infrastructure that drives LiveBar? This seems like an interesting service, but it also sounds expensive and unruly. Taking into account chat, numerous highly trafficked sites will cause a serious load. Building a highly available, redundant, and scalable infrastructure costs megabucks and I wonder if LiveWorld has the proper backing to make this work.

Also, I don’t really understand the differentiation between ‘conversations’, ’soapboxes’, and ’shouts’. Especially considering the screens show people engaging in conversation within the ’shouts’ section. For practical purposes, they are all the same thing. I suggest they cut the marketing bs and build a well designed and usable product.

Lastly, excluding the social components, it would be fairly easy to make an open source clone of this suite and make it available to anyone running LAMP. You would need a centralized DB to create social context across multiple sites.

]]> By: ImageCo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470231 ImageCo Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:17:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470231 Yeah but it's not as low as tinyCrunch's page rank of zero. tinyCrunch... lol Yeah but it’s not as low as tinyCrunch’s page rank of zero. tinyCrunch… lol

]]> By: ImageCo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470227 ImageCo Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:10:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470227 This looks like a great concept with a prohibitive price tag. I'd love to offer this to my clients but I'll just have to wait until the price comes down or someone develops a knock off version that's affordable. This looks like a great concept with a prohibitive price tag. I’d love to offer this to my clients but I’ll just have to wait until the price comes down or someone develops a knock off version that’s affordable.

]]> By: =jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/15/livebar-adds-strip-of-community-to-any-site/comment-page-1/#comment-2470224 =jason Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:00:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22254#comment-2470224 This site is terrible. tinyCrunch posted their stock price. Hilarious. This site is terrible. tinyCrunch posted their stock price. Hilarious.

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