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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2706011</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do these companies run the same bait and switch pricing con game as Intelius?

It&#039;s not technically bait and switch.. but they post pricing models in their checkout pages and then dupe you into a monthly membership.

Intelius does the same thing... read the complaints on both of these companies.  These amounts are so small for both companies (monthly billing from $7 to $20) that it gets blown over...

It seems to be the optimum rip off model.

Unfortunately, most people are suckers... and with one click they&#039;re unwittingly locked into monthly subtractions from their credit card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do these companies run the same bait and switch pricing con game as Intelius?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not technically bait and switch.. but they post pricing models in their checkout pages and then dupe you into a monthly membership.</p>
<p>Intelius does the same thing&#8230; read the complaints on both of these companies.  These amounts are so small for both companies (monthly billing from $7 to $20) that it gets blown over&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems to be the optimum rip off model.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most people are suckers&#8230; and with one click they&#8217;re unwittingly locked into monthly subtractions from their credit card.</p>
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		<title>By: bridie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2601473</link>
		<dc:creator>bridie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i fink it wkd man lol xxbum</description>
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		<title>By: Virtual Worlds &#38; Social Games Investments Defy Downturn in 2008 &#124; Simple Lifeforms</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2572713</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtual Worlds &#38; Social Games Investments Defy Downturn in 2008 &#124; Simple Lifeforms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of deals so far. There have been months dominated by huge deals (e.g. $100 million into 9You and $83 million into Big Fish Games), but those are one-offs and need to be excluded when looking at the bigger [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of deals so far. There have been months dominated by huge deals (e.g. $100 million into 9You and $83 million into Big Fish Games), but those are one-offs and need to be excluded when looking at the bigger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vfdg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2570541</link>
		<dc:creator>vfdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yall r all idiots by the way i just wanted to say obama sucks</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2560877</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take your worthless spam, link begging post and get the hell off TechCrunch, fool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take your worthless spam, link begging post and get the hell off TechCrunch, fool!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Qualfin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Qualfin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously...did you graduate from high school? This looks like it was written by a pre-schooler. Idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously&#8230;did you graduate from high school? This looks like it was written by a pre-schooler. Idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Krumpet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2560871</link>
		<dc:creator>Krumpet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I&#039;m sorry, but your site totally sucks.</description>
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		<title>By: Gaming Defies Down Turn With Venture Capital &#124; ArcticStartup</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2542039</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaming Defies Down Turn With Venture Capital &#124; ArcticStartup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the largest investments made were 9You&#8217;s 100M USD, 83M USD into Big Fish Games, 29M USD into Zynga Games and Gaia&#8217;s 11M USD financing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the largest investments made were 9You&#8217;s 100M USD, 83M USD into Big Fish Games, 29M USD into Zynga Games and Gaia&#8217;s 11M USD financing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yopa</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2511574</link>
		<dc:creator>yopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Russinindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russinindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for them! I first learned about BF a few years ago on Real Arcade. At that time I thought RA had a better sight because of there forums, but poor moderation from A Albert led to a hodge podge of old gaggles like mamamoo to bring it down. I think that BF got a huge jump when they closed the forums. They also kept bragging of the new tech and hardware they were upgrading too revamping to be the best. Ha, they totally went down hill. So, where can I buy bf stock?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for them! I first learned about BF a few years ago on Real Arcade. At that time I thought RA had a better sight because of there forums, but poor moderation from A Albert led to a hodge podge of old gaggles like mamamoo to bring it down. I think that BF got a huge jump when they closed the forums. They also kept bragging of the new tech and hardware they were upgrading too revamping to be the best. Ha, they totally went down hill. So, where can I buy bf stock?</p>
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		<title>By: El portal de juegos Big Fish Games obtiene 83,3M</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2469108</link>
		<dc:creator>El portal de juegos Big Fish Games obtiene 83,3M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fish Games, el portal de juegos online y para descarga, ha cerrado una ronda de financiación de 83,3 millones de dólares dirigida por Balderton Capital, General Catalyst Partners y Salmon River [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fish Games, el portal de juegos online y para descarga, ha cerrado una ronda de financiación de 83,3 millones de dólares dirigida por Balderton Capital, General Catalyst Partners y Salmon River [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Big Fish Games, $83m and Salmon River &#124; TowerOne.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2469027</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Fish Games, $83m and Salmon River &#124; TowerOne.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fish Games, an online portal for both online and downloadable computer games, have reportedly closed an $83.3 million funding round led by Balderton Capital, General Catalyst Partners, and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fish Games, an online portal for both online and downloadable computer games, have reportedly closed an $83.3 million funding round led by Balderton Capital, General Catalyst Partners, and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mally</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2467825</link>
		<dc:creator>mally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put all my faith and future in gaming into Big Fish Games in 2007 when Real Arcade first introduced their sad excuse for a new downloader.  

My congratulations to Big Fish Games and Paul Thelon!  The Pond Rules!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put all my faith and future in gaming into Big Fish Games in 2007 when Real Arcade first introduced their sad excuse for a new downloader.  </p>
<p>My congratulations to Big Fish Games and Paul Thelon!  The Pond Rules!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2467042</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats! They are a good company and deserve it. Another sign of how strong the casual gaming market is.</description>
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		<title>By: lars</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466990</link>
		<dc:creator>lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Job maybye 7 mil profit 10x multiple   but prolly did not sell 100% so maybye a 20-30X multiple. It makes http://www.fupa.com seem like a o brainer :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Job maybye 7 mil profit 10x multiple   but prolly did not sell 100% so maybye a 20-30X multiple. It makes <a href="http://www.fupa.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.fupa.com'>http://www.fupa.com</a> seem like a o brainer <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GameProducer.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And Now We See &#8220;Bigger Fish Games&#8221; - Big Fish Games Raises $83.3 Million For Casual Game Distribution</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466853</link>
		<dc:creator>GameProducer.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; And Now We See &#8220;Bigger Fish Games&#8221; - Big Fish Games Raises $83.3 Million For Casual Game Distribution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] via Techcrunch that Big Fish Games has closed an $83.3 million funding [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Big Fish Games Raises $83.3 Million For Casual Game Distribution &#124; Tech News And Social Networking</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466848</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Fish Games Raises $83.3 Million For Casual Game Distribution &#124; Tech News And Social Networking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Big Fish Games was originally founded in 2002 as a game development studio, but gradually expanded its focus as it began distributing games created by other developers. The site now has partnerships with over 500 developers and says that their games see over one million daily downloads. The site also features a collection of online browser-based games as well as a basic social network. Read More [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Big Fish Games was originally founded in 2002 as a game development studio, but gradually expanded its focus as it began distributing games created by other developers. The site now has partnerships with over 500 developers and says that their games see over one million daily downloads. The site also features a collection of online browser-based games as well as a basic social network. Read More [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Hefta-Gaub</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466815</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Hefta-Gaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some excellent reporting on this at the Seattle PI... 

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/archives/148452.asp

Including details on their revenue:

&quot;In 2005, the company reported revenue of $8.6 million, rising to $24.1 million in 2006 and $50.8 million last year. Lewis declined to provide revenue projections for this year, though he said the business has grown at between 100 percent and 220 percent annually for the past few years. Lewis expects revenue to hit historical growth levels this year.&quot;

This company is for real... I know the founder Paul Thelen (we worked together way way way back in the day at RealNetworks when the RealPlayer was still a great product)... Paul is super smart, and passionate about games. He was the original champion behind Real getting into the games business as well... 

I suspect that Paul and the other team members took some money off the table on this deal. They built this thing up in a bootstrapped manner, profitable from day 1, and this is the first time they raised any venture money.

In some sense this is a great example of how a real business (one making real money!) doesn&#039;t have to worry about economic downturns and &quot;ipo windows closing&quot;... If you are bringing in $50m in revenue and you&#039;re profitable... your company isn&#039;t going away any time soon.

Congrats to the Big Fish team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some excellent reporting on this at the Seattle PI&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/archives/148452.asp" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/archives/148452.asp'>http://blog.sea...ives/148452.asp</a></p>
<p>Including details on their revenue:</p>
<p>&#8220;In 2005, the company reported revenue of $8.6 million, rising to $24.1 million in 2006 and $50.8 million last year. Lewis declined to provide revenue projections for this year, though he said the business has grown at between 100 percent and 220 percent annually for the past few years. Lewis expects revenue to hit historical growth levels this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>This company is for real&#8230; I know the founder Paul Thelen (we worked together way way way back in the day at RealNetworks when the RealPlayer was still a great product)&#8230; Paul is super smart, and passionate about games. He was the original champion behind Real getting into the games business as well&#8230; </p>
<p>I suspect that Paul and the other team members took some money off the table on this deal. They built this thing up in a bootstrapped manner, profitable from day 1, and this is the first time they raised any venture money.</p>
<p>In some sense this is a great example of how a real business (one making real money!) doesn&#8217;t have to worry about economic downturns and &#8220;ipo windows closing&#8221;&#8230; If you are bringing in $50m in revenue and you&#8217;re profitable&#8230; your company isn&#8217;t going away any time soon.</p>
<p>Congrats to the Big Fish team!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to myself- Looks as though they charge for full version game downloads</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466754</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an aweful large amount to be raising.  I wonder if their only source of revenue is advertising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is an aweful large amount to be raising.  I wonder if their only source of revenue is advertising?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466695</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason - have you heard any rumored revenue numbers for Big Fish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8211; have you heard any rumored revenue numbers for Big Fish?</p>
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		<title>By: fatfoogoo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466592</link>
		<dc:creator>fatfoogoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding!  Hats off to the folks at Big Fish.  Chalk another one up for the free to play industry.  Great job guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding!  Hats off to the folks at Big Fish.  Chalk another one up for the free to play industry.  Great job guy!</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/12/big-fish-games-raises-833-million-for-casual-game-distribution/comment-page-1/#comment-2466493</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$83.3 million Yikes but Nice !   freebie games--&gt;  http://playum.com</description>
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