Comments on: TC50: Birdpost and Closet Couture, Two Social Networks for Birds http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:10:09 -0800 hourly 1 By: Another Client in the News « Uncharted http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2713355 Another Client in the News « Uncharted Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:47:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2713355 [...] And they’ve had several great mentions in TechCrunch, from their presentation at the TechCrunch50 Conference: [...] [...] And they’ve had several great mentions in TechCrunch, from their presentation at the TechCrunch50 Conference: [...]

]]> By: Stephen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2648851 Stephen Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:04:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2648851 Closet Couture is a blatant rip off of myclosetmylife.com. MCML was launched before Closet Couture. Get your own ideas. Look at www.myclosetmylife.com Closet Couture is a blatant rip off of myclosetmylife.com. MCML was launched before Closet Couture. Get your own ideas. Look at http://www.myclosetmylife.com

]]> By: Closet http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2589258 Closet Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:14:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2589258 Closet Couture looks interesting but I think not all can spend that much of time on taking photos of all their clothes and accessories and keep them in web. -Mini Closet Couture looks interesting but I think not all can spend that much of time on taking photos of all their clothes and accessories and keep them in web.

-Mini

]]> By: Birder101 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2492295 Birder101 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:18:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2492295 I must say with all respect to the guys of birdpost, I found the site very frustrating. Difficult to navigate, too busy and essentially the social aspect is covered off by facebook etc, and not nearly as well. Shame, I had great expectations from this site... :( I must say with all respect to the guys of birdpost, I found the site very frustrating. Difficult to navigate, too busy and essentially the social aspect is covered off by facebook etc, and not nearly as well.

Shame, I had great expectations from this site… :(

]]> By: Here Comes the Neighborhood: Birding on the Web « Round Robin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2480151 Here Comes the Neighborhood: Birding on the Web « Round Robin Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:21:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2480151 [...] Earlier this month, these folks were named one of the 50 “best new startups” by TechCrunch and immediately started popping up in Reuters and MSNBC news stories. Their friendly blog expressly [...] [...] Earlier this month, these folks were named one of the 50 “best new startups” by TechCrunch and immediately started popping up in Reuters and MSNBC news stories. Their friendly blog expressly [...]

]]> By: Jon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2469095 Jon Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:47:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2469095 Your guys are definitely not playing nice and fair. Where's your professionalism? Your guys are definitely not playing nice and fair. Where’s your professionalism?

]]> By: Ai http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2469073 Ai Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:08:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2469073 Nancy, Closet Couture already has features like sharing your closets with friends so that they can recommend/help you create outfits with what you already have or suggest clothing/accessories that you may been to purchase. Sign up as a BETA user here: http://www.closetcouture.com/techcrunch Nancy, Closet Couture already has features like sharing your closets with friends so that they can recommend/help you create outfits with what you already have or suggest clothing/accessories that you may been to purchase.

Sign up as a BETA user here:
http://www.clos....com/techcrunch

]]> By: Bjorn Hinrichs http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2466808 Bjorn Hinrichs Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:14:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2466808 They're not the only people working on this. Game on gentlemen! They’re not the only people working on this. Game on gentlemen!

]]> By: Amelia Severson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2466035 Amelia Severson Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:30:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2466035 I just went to the Birdpost site and I'm amazed at the visual ability to track your bird sitings. I can't wait to upload my excel life list to their site. I've tried to use eBird before and it is totally unintuitive. I give them props for trying to go the non-profit route but that doesn't mean the usablity is there. I would be totally willing to pay for Birdpost simply for the ability to have my life list of birds in a cool presentation. I'm sold! I just went to the Birdpost site and I’m amazed at the visual ability to track your bird sitings. I can’t wait to upload my excel life list to their site. I’ve tried to use eBird before and it is totally unintuitive. I give them props for trying to go the non-profit route but that doesn’t mean the usablity is there. I would be totally willing to pay for Birdpost simply for the ability to have my life list of birds in a cool presentation. I’m sold!

]]> By: Jerry Thompson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2466016 Jerry Thompson Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:11:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2466016 I think what smells is ebird is nervous about having competition. I've looked at both sites and birdpost appears easier to use and perhaps geared towards maps and pictures more than ebird. I think what smells is ebird is nervous about having competition. I’ve looked at both sites and birdpost appears easier to use and perhaps geared towards maps and pictures more than ebird.

]]> By: Nathan Swick http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465869 Nathan Swick Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:55:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465869 Jim Smith is right. Why would anyone pay for something in Birdpost that they can get for free in eBird? Plus eBird has actual scientific value, an appeal that cannot be understated when talking about birders. Something smells here. Jim Smith is right. Why would anyone pay for something in Birdpost that they can get for free in eBird? Plus eBird has actual scientific value, an appeal that cannot be understated when talking about birders.

Something smells here.

]]> By: Jim Smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465834 Jim Smith Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:28:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465834 Birdpost is a blatant rip-off of the NONPROFIT eBird project that has been around for years. Much of the Birdpost application seems to be a repackaging of some of eBird's new features like Google Maps, Notable Birds Gadget, etc. They obviously used existing eBird features as the kernel, added a few social networking 'bells and whistles' (which birders won't care about) and voila. And unlike eBird, Birdpost is of zero value to bird researchers and conservationists, since Birdpost data is very poorly screened for misidentifications, spurious reports and "nut job" birders compared to eBird and other real citizen-science projects. I urge birders to use eBird instead - after all, it not only lets you record, track, map, search, alerts, etc. - but it also helps conserve the birds we care about. Birdpost is a for-profit ripoff of an existing nonprofit product. For Shame! Birdpost is a blatant rip-off of the NONPROFIT eBird project that has been around for years.

Much of the Birdpost application seems to be a repackaging of some of eBird’s new features like Google Maps, Notable Birds Gadget, etc.

They obviously used existing eBird features as the kernel, added a few social networking ‘bells and whistles’ (which birders won’t care about) and voila.

And unlike eBird, Birdpost is of zero value to bird researchers and conservationists, since Birdpost data is very poorly screened for misidentifications, spurious reports and “nut job” birders compared to eBird and other real citizen-science projects.

I urge birders to use eBird instead – after all, it not only lets you record, track, map, search, alerts, etc. – but it also helps conserve the birds we care about.

Birdpost is a for-profit ripoff of an existing nonprofit product.

For Shame!

]]> By: Nancy R. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465831 Nancy R. Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:26:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465831 Closet Couture looks like a beautiful product, like it'd literally inspire one to be more fashionable ;). Look forward to checking it out. I do see a fairly significant hurdle with what seems to be core to the service...getting busy (and wealthy?) women to actually take photos of all their clothes (or even any) and putting them online. That's hours of work. Never mind users also need to tag the photos, get the clothing in the right position to look correct on the "model" when it's on the site, etc. May need to make this whole experience a bit more bite-sized for users and ensure they feel like they're "winners" early in the engagement cycle with the site (i.e., that I'm not wasting my time and am either creating something beautiful/useful &/or am getting positive feedback from the community in some way). It'll be interesting to see if the site evolves to more of a youth oriented site where one can get friends to help "style" or suggest clothing/accessories for you to purchase based on the ability to see into your closet. Closet Couture looks like a beautiful product, like it’d literally inspire one to be more fashionable ;) . Look forward to checking it out.

I do see a fairly significant hurdle with what seems to be core to the service…getting busy (and wealthy?) women to actually take photos of all their clothes (or even any) and putting them online. That’s hours of work. Never mind users also need to tag the photos, get the clothing in the right position to look correct on the “model” when it’s on the site, etc.

May need to make this whole experience a bit more bite-sized for users and ensure they feel like they’re “winners” early in the engagement cycle with the site (i.e., that I’m not wasting my time and am either creating something beautiful/useful &/or am getting positive feedback from the community in some way).

It’ll be interesting to see if the site evolves to more of a youth oriented site where one can get friends to help “style” or suggest clothing/accessories for you to purchase based on the ability to see into your closet.

]]> By: k http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465804 k Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:04:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465804 A top down approach is the most common but at the same time least convincing way to size a market. $32 billion is a huge number but it's the wrong number when you plan on having a freemium based business model where the user pays $50 for access to certain parts of the site (that's the model they were thinking of). So if you want to use a top down approach and 45 million people are interested in this kind of knowledge, and they all pay $50 a year then the size of the market is actually $2 billion. But it's not realistic. It might be good for PR but when you talk to your advisory board or business partners you will / should be using a bottom up approach. I think both dogster.com and smugmug.com are the benchmarks they should be looking at. A top down approach is the most common but at the same time least convincing way to size a market.

$32 billion is a huge number but it’s the wrong number when you plan on having a freemium based business model where the user pays $50 for access to certain parts of the site (that’s the model they were thinking of).
So if you want to use a top down approach and 45 million people are interested in this kind of knowledge, and they all pay $50 a year then the size of the market is actually $2 billion.

But it’s not realistic. It might be good for PR but when you talk to your advisory board or business partners you will / should be using a bottom up approach.

I think both dogster.com and smugmug.com are the benchmarks they should be looking at.

]]> By: Scott Gatz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465734 Scott Gatz Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:39:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465734 Mark, you are hitting a new low with your title here. How come every other company gets their own post but Closet Couture gets relegated to a "birds" post? Not so nice. Mark, you are hitting a new low with your title here. How come every other company gets their own post but Closet Couture gets relegated to a “birds” post? Not so nice.

]]> By: KillerStartups.com - BirdPost.com - Facebook For Bird Watchers http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465665 KillerStartups.com - BirdPost.com - Facebook For Bird Watchers Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:14:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465665 <strong>BirdPost.com - Facebook For Bird Watchers...</strong> I found your entry interesting do I've added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)... BirdPost.com – Facebook For Bird Watchers…

I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :) …

]]> By: Birdpost and Closet Couture « Vikartal’s Weblog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465560 Birdpost and Closet Couture « Vikartal’s Weblog Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:04:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465560 [...] and Closet Couture I recently read about two new social networking sites on TechCrunch: Birdpost and Closet Couture.  Both of these sites take new approaches to virtual social [...] [...] and Closet Couture I recently read about two new social networking sites on TechCrunch: Birdpost and Closet Couture.  Both of these sites take new approaches to virtual social [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch 50网络创业盛会:开启动物社交网络时代 | Web2.0 News http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465550 TechCrunch 50网络创业盛会:开启动物社交网络时代 | Web2.0 News Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:35:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465550 [...] 今天的TechCrunch 50落幕了，小容还没有来得及逐一看今天的项目。刚刚打开TechCrunch.com发现TC50中有一个关于鸟的社交网站。 [...] [...] 今天的TechCrunch 50落幕了，小容还没有来得及逐一看今天的项目。刚刚打开TechCrunch.com发现TC50中有一个关于鸟的社交网站。 [...]

]]> By: Wallace http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465394 Wallace Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:24:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465394 birdpost - probably the most innovative idea to come out of the conference, with massive potential to scale this technology to other markets. In terms of the market - even if it were only $10B, still a large market. birdpost – probably the most innovative idea to come out of the conference, with massive potential to scale this technology to other markets.

In terms of the market – even if it were only $10B, still a large market.

]]> By: 大学小容>善用网络，助益成长！ » Blog Archive » TechCrunch 50网络创业盛会:开启动物社交网络时代 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465297 大学小容>善用网络，助益成长！ » Blog Archive » TechCrunch 50网络创业盛会:开启动物社交网络时代 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:08:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465297 [...] 今天的TechCrunch 50落幕了，小容还没有来得及逐一看今天的项目。刚刚打开TechCrunch.com发现TC50中有一个关于鸟的社交网站。 [...] [...] 今天的TechCrunch 50落幕了，小容还没有来得及逐一看今天的项目。刚刚打开TechCrunch.com发现TC50中有一个关于鸟的社交网站。 [...]

]]> By: Jon Bischke http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465156 Jon Bischke Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:30:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465156 People spend 3x as much on bird watching as on movies?! Yeah, I'm not sure I buy that either... People spend 3x as much on bird watching as on movies?! Yeah, I’m not sure I buy that either…

]]> By: Aleksey Korzun http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465131 Aleksey Korzun Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:00:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465131 Don't know... they are defiantly not getting anything from New York, there are hardly any pigeons. Forget about anything else. Don’t know… they are defiantly not getting anything from New York, there are hardly any pigeons. Forget about anything else.

]]> By: Adam Bruce http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465110 Adam Bruce Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:32:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465110 Very cool service, but I skeptical about the "$32B" market claim, as described, for the bird watching market. For example, if I buy a camera, that I could use for Birds, I could also a Camera for snapping cars as well, but the sale of that Camera is part of the photography market, not the bird watching hobby. I agree with the presenter that said they have a good technology that can be used in other areas of interest. For example I could see BirdPost quickly reskinned to service the needs of Car-Parazzi.com, an exotic car sighting hobby site. Very cool service, but I skeptical about the “$32B” market claim, as described, for the bird watching market. For example, if I buy a camera, that I could use for Birds, I could also a Camera for snapping cars as well, but the sale of that Camera is part of the photography market, not the bird watching hobby. I agree with the presenter that said they have a good technology that can be used in other areas of interest. For example I could see BirdPost quickly reskinned to service the needs of Car-Parazzi.com, an exotic car sighting hobby site.

]]> By: DennisSC http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465081 DennisSC Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:44:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465081 Woops. Meant to say "beasts"! Not sure what a "winged beat" is, though it has a nice ring to it. Woops. Meant to say “beasts”! Not sure what a “winged beat” is, though it has a nice ring to it.

]]> By: DennisSC http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/10/tc50-birdpost-and-closet-couture-two-social-networks-for-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-2465080 DennisSC Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:43:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=22105#comment-2465080 Birders take their winged beats pretty serious like. There's a market there, I'd say. Birders take their winged beats pretty serious like. There’s a market there, I’d say.

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