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By: OS X iPhone poderá ultrapassar market-share do Symbian OS até 2010 | FingerTips

Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:20:16 +0000

[...] De acordo com as últimas projeções do mercado de smartphones dos Estados Unidos, a base instalada do OS X iPhone poderá se tornar maior que a do Symbian OS até 2010, segundo o TechCrunch. [...]

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Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:56:44 +0000

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By: Luis

Luis — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:28:55 +0000

Gringo mindset!!! outside US Nokia is unbeatable….In Asia (except Japan) too..so I don’t see this coming any time soon, we are talking about 2 devices now, and 4 or 5 later…versus an incredible gamma of devices that today have symbian..
I just think that you gringos should think outside, USA is not the world..

By: John Stewart

John Stewart — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:39:43 +0000

Outside the US, iPhone will hardly catch up, cause Europeans seem to be happy with their Symbian devices, why would they want to change them for iPhones? They are just so different in terms of functionality and Symbian offers much more options.
Now call me crazy but i still love my iPhone and i wouldn’t give it up to any other device.
And this is where you can get a free iPhone 3g if you’d like: http://www.pika...estRules.aspx?m

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iPhone Continue to Hammer Networks — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:48:38 +0000

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By: Befreiphone

Befreiphone — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:36 +0000

No Way.

By: Rita El Khoury

Rita El Khoury — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:20:57 +0000

Oh how foolish of all the silicon valley enthusiasts to make claims like this one and to assume that the whole world follows their way of thinking. Come on, travel outside your US boundaries, take a step towards europe, middle east, africa, india… and you will SEE. S60, Nseries, S40, Eseries, EVERYWHERE. iPhones? Nowhere. Not because we’re stuck behind, but because we’re running free upfront, with much much better freedom and choices when it comes to the way we handle our handsets.

By: Gareth

Gareth — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:06:55 +0000

As stated above this is true for the US. In Europe the iPhone will never catch up it just came too late to the party.

By: zomm

zomm — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:02:02 +0000

We should really define what smartphone means. When comparing iPhone to Symbian devices, iPhone has so small amount of features that it is crazy. Can you edit and print your office documents in iPhone? Can you run MySQL on iPhone? Can you run ANY background applications on iPhone? Symbian can run hundreds of background apps (check with some process manager, there really is hundreds of them) and the battery life is twice as better than in iPhone. I don’t even understand what is the point comparing these devices, compare iPhone to some f* blackberry or samsung devices. Nokia is so much more ahead of everybody else.

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Smart Phones of today » Blog Archive » iPhone Vs Symbian — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:05:51 +0000

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Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:51:52 +0000

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By: Intosh

Intosh — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:01:20 +0000

I have nothing against the iPhone itself. In fact, I give kudos to the iPhone and Apple for accelerating the mobile web trend. I personally would not buy it because it doesn’t justify the cost. But that’s strictly personal — other people has other priorities, other needs.

However, what I’m against is those Mactards, the hate-it-cos-its-NOT-Apple crowd, who diss and belittle all other competitions and make grossly generalized statement about how all competing products are cheap and crap and how Apple is God and the iPhone is JesusPhone that will just crush all those competing companies and products. These Mactards live in the fanboy distortion field where the iPhone’s blatant security flaw is no big deal but if found on other products, it’s just desastrous and proof of how crappy they are. Those religious Apple zealots are convinced that touchscreen keyboard is the be-all end-all of “revolutionary” smartphones and that physical keyboard is premitive and laughable; where in reality, physical keyboard has several advantages over touchscreen virtual keyboard (and vice-versa).
The narrow one-sided biased view is what I condemn and my comments are to show the Apple fanboys that Apple products are not perfect either.

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ExecutiveBiz Blog » Blog Archive » Competing For Your Vote — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:30:40 +0000

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By: Andres

Andres — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:19:04 +0000

Fresh stats form Europe. This is how the iPhone ranked in sales against other handsets during its’ launch week -reaction in countries that already had the 1st gen, has been quite mute and are not included-:

Austria: #19 (16 GB)
Austria: #32 (8 GB)
Switzerland: #6 (8 GB)
Switzerland: #7 (16 GB)
Denmark: #23 (16 GB)
Denmark: #28 (8 GB)
Finland: #23 (8 GB)
Finland: #34 (16GB)
Spain: #48 (16 GB)
Italy: #33 (8 GB)
Italy: #39 (16 GB)
Netherlands: #5 (16 GB)
Netherlands: #31 (8 GB)

By: Mikanik

Mikanik — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:05:46 +0000

I agree with your point Andres but just a slight correction. Don’t mix up Nokia phones and Symbian phones, so basically don’t mix up the global handset market and the smartphone market. Nokia might have shipped more than 1 billion phone worldwide, these phones are not all smartphones based on Symbian. But as I said, I think Nokia still has a lot of cards up its sleeve to outperform Apple sales, Apple which is still a rookie in the mobile world.

By: Mikanik

Mikanik — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:51:23 +0000

I totally agree with Tsahi. There is no way Apple can sustain the current iPhone sales figures and I don’t think the iPhone will become the iPod of the MP3 market. Concerning Symbian, Nokia realised that this OS was losing its share in the smartphone market and that’s why they created the Symbian Foundation recently to move towards the Open Source trend. And if you want to see a real competitor to Symbian, wait for Android…

By: Andres

Andres — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:47:09 +0000

btw- my wife has had her Google maps crashed since yesterday’s night (1st gen iPhone), so she went today to the Apple store in NY and the queue was still unbearable: they gave her an appointment for Saturday…and all those suckers are innocently lined up for that.

By: Darryl

Darryl — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:07:42 +0000

Roger,
You speak the truth. Whether someone is a fan or not, these anti Apple antagonist have to admit that before the iPhone the market was truly stagnant. I’m not suggesting that Apple invented any of the features that make the iPhone such a success. They didn’t, but like many technologies before these, Apple is the first company to bring these functionalities in a usable form to the masses.
We constantly hear the anti Apple crowd point out that there are more features in other devices. We always hear how Apple didn’t invent this or that.
I don’t care if it Apple or Nokia or Microsoft or Sony Erriccson that creates whatever function or feature. I just want my device to be advanced and functioning properly. If it happens to be Apple big deal. What must be acknowledged though is that over the course of recent history…..it has been Apple that has taken the risk to attempt to do things beyond the tried and tested. To push the envelope a bit and to excite the market.
All handset makers in the market today have been in the market for sometime now. Apple just got in the game. Posters like “Intosh” may not wish to publicly acknowledge that truth, but he and all the hate-it-cos-its-Apple crowd know that the above is true.
When the iPhone was first introduced, everyone with a pulpit pointed out that touchscreens had been tried and failed. They further noted that most end user would prefer a physical keyboard. If the iPhone hadn’t arrived when it did….would every handset maker now be producing a touchscreen model?
The iPhone has changed expectations. There will always be different needs for different users. Whether the iPhone is dominant or the N95 or the various Blackberry models matters none to me. I just hope that each company continue to push the envelope and bring these technologies to consumers and continue to improve them.
You Apple haters with your blinders on can continue to not acknowledge the changes happening in front of you in order to maintain your bigotries but, most of the buying public will go with where the innovation is and will not care who makes it. Currently it is Apples’ innovation that has the market stirred.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:34:52 +0000

I will say it again, when apple lets you change your own battery(without voiding the warranty), then it will gain steam. Until then, no thanks.

By: matthew bennett

matthew bennett — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:33:02 +0000

Um, yes. Exactly. You can author programs for S60 in six different programming languages. You can deliver the code to end users without asking Symbian or Nokia. And all of the develpoment tools are available for free, and the docs are all publicly available.

Chomp on that, fanboy.

By: Serge

Serge — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:13:53 +0000

From developer perspective it’s lot more easy to work with single device than support several “similar” platform like Symbian 9.1, Symbian 9.2, Symbian 9.3, S60/UIQ. Now Nokia intend get rid of UIQ in future, but it still be selling several versions of OS simultaneously, and several not quite compatible devices even inside the same OS version. And Symbian development is hobbled by problems – high learning curve, poorly documented, unwieldy SDKs, “Symbian Signed” programm which explicitly hostile to small developers. Cthulhu stile developer relations, to put it short.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:14:51 +0000

That surge in iPhone sales is a spike of pent-up demand for the 3G model, as well as bringing on more countries for distribution. I expect it will drop off and the iPhone will continue to be a small part of the overall market.

The other interesting point is that being a single device that updates the way the iPhone does will almost certainly affect its turnover. You may see customers hold onto iPhones for a lot longer than has been traditional with other devices. At least with Symbian there is a steady stream of new devices shipping all the time, which is one reason it has maintained such high volumes so steadily for so long.

For perspective, Nokia still ships 1+ million handsets per day to Apple’s surge of 800,000 per week. As Nokia continues to transition to Symbian away from its Series 40 platform, Symbian shipments will grow as well.

By: J. Kuss

J. Kuss — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:01:59 +0000

Nice overview of the current Symbian v. iPhone battle. The iPhone is a complete package: it is feature rich, feels great in your hand, and is the recipient of a lot of well-placed hype. And it has one more thing that sets it apart… a picture in the dictionary next to “disruptive technology.” As such, is currently seeing the growth one would expect from distruptive technolgy that has been embraced by a mainstream audience (ie. steep growth curve), as well as the the expected scrambling from the incumbents as they seek to remain on top. Will the iPhone continue to grow at this rate? I doubt it.

The incumbents are all developing their own iPhone Killers (I hate the term, but whatever) with a cute touch screen and a full feature set. We don’t know if Tube will be the answer, but if it isn’t, do you expect Nokia to sit back and do nothing? I wouldn’t. What I would expect is that they likely spent a more time on their OS tech roadmap following the iPhone’s launch and have multiple scenarios for for the next OS iteration. If it is not Tube, it will be what comes next.

Not everyone reads TechCrunch. Not everyone is a techie. There are average consumers out there that will gladly purchase a “good enough” iPhone alternative, which will surely slow the iPhones growth rate. That being said, lets see the projections on the low-end, but with a higher Symbian growth rate.

By: Intosh

Intosh — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:19:41 +0000

Let’s see: iPod, iPod classic, iPod Nano, iPod Shuffle, iPod Mini (not counting the different “gens” with photo, with color, etc.). Then, iPhone, iPhone 3G. I guess that’s not “rehashing” the same things according to the Mactard above?