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	<title>Comments on: What The Veoh Decision Means For YouTube And Others</title>
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		<title>By: Free Tv Shows Online</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-3021363</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Tv Shows Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! but Veoh is still an ass as they closed any access to their website from here.</description>
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		<title>By: GNC-2008-08-28 #403 Live from the Heart of Texas &#124; Geek News Central</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2702218</link>
		<dc:creator>GNC-2008-08-28 #403 Live from the Heart of Texas &#124; Geek News Central</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year **Comcast Ruins The Broadband Party Devastating News!!!!!! Ubiquity - Complex but way cool VEOH Decision YouTube Experience goes Commercial New Nikon Real Cool Rovers still Rolling Shuttle Roll Out Delay [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Articles of the Day &#171; dave liu dot com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2471117</link>
		<dc:creator>Articles of the Day &#171; dave liu dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Veoh Decision A Boon for YouTube &#8212; Analysts and legal eagles watched with a keen eye as Judge Howard Lloyd of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California ruled on Wednesday that Veoh did its part to protect copyright holders, thus qualifying for &#8220;safe harbor&#8221; protections under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Adult entertainment company Io Group alleged that the online video provider had not done enough to stop users from uploading unauthorized clips of its adult sex films. &#8220;The DMCA was intended to facilitate the growth of electronic commerce, not squelch it,&#8221; Judge Lloyd said. The DMCA protects publishers from being held accountable for the content uploaded by their users, as long as they make it clear that uploading copyrighted material is prohibited, and swiftly comply with official takedown notices. TechCrunch&#8217;s Michael Arrington noted that it&#8217;s also helpful to have fingerprinting technology in place to detect copyrighted material, in addition to lots of non-infringing content (Veoh only received takedown notices on 7% of its content). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Veoh Decision A Boon for YouTube &#8212; Analysts and legal eagles watched with a keen eye as Judge Howard Lloyd of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California ruled on Wednesday that Veoh did its part to protect copyright holders, thus qualifying for &#8220;safe harbor&#8221; protections under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Adult entertainment company Io Group alleged that the online video provider had not done enough to stop users from uploading unauthorized clips of its adult sex films. &#8220;The DMCA was intended to facilitate the growth of electronic commerce, not squelch it,&#8221; Judge Lloyd said. The DMCA protects publishers from being held accountable for the content uploaded by their users, as long as they make it clear that uploading copyrighted material is prohibited, and swiftly comply with official takedown notices. TechCrunch&#8217;s Michael Arrington noted that it&#8217;s also helpful to have fingerprinting technology in place to detect copyrighted material, in addition to lots of non-infringing content (Veoh only received takedown notices on 7% of its content). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Hurley On The Future Of YouTube: We Will Conquer Every Screen &#171; Karthik&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2470978</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Hurley On The Future Of YouTube: We Will Conquer Every Screen &#171; Karthik&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hurley notes that 13 hours worth of videos are uploaded every minute to YouTube (a figure we’ve reported before). And he predicts more of the same: more videos will be uploaded to the Web, more video creators [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chad Hurley On The Future Of YouTube: We Will Conquer Every Screen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2470604</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Hurley On The Future Of YouTube: We Will Conquer Every Screen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] notes that 13 hours worth of videos are uploaded every minute to YouTube (a figure we&#8217;ve reported before). And he predicts more of the same: more videos will be uploaded to the Web, more video creators [...]</description>
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		<title>By: web design company</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2467505</link>
		<dc:creator>web design company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the part where it says that Napster&#039;s sole purpose was to infringe on copyright.   I love revisionist history.</description>
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		<title>By: JOLT Digest &#187; Io Group v. Veoh Networks</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2456481</link>
		<dc:creator>JOLT Digest &#187; Io Group v. Veoh Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Commentators have noted the potentially far-reaching effects of this decision, especially for the ongoing YouTube-Viacom infringement litigation. See the L.A. Times, CNet, Wired, Silicon Alley Insider, Techdirt, TechCrunch. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WebbAlert - September 2, 2008 &#124; TechTV Update</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2455024</link>
		<dc:creator>WebbAlert - September 2, 2008 &#124; TechTV Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] door policy for applications spell trouble down the road?  Veoh won a copyright lawsuit, striking a temporary blow for online video freedom.  Comcast will limit subscribers to 250 gigabytes/month of internet usage. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: renaissance chambara &#124; Ged Carroll - Links of the day</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2451577</link>
		<dc:creator>renaissance chambara &#124; Ged Carroll - Links of the day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What The Veoh Decision Means For YouTube And Others [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quickthink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thinking about Veoh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2451263</link>
		<dc:creator>Quickthink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thinking about Veoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that entered a summary judgment on claims against a web based video sharing service called Veoh. TechCrunch offers a digital copy of the judgment. This is just one judgmnet by a trial level court, and does not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that entered a summary judgment on claims against a web based video sharing service called Veoh. TechCrunch offers a digital copy of the judgment. This is just one judgmnet by a trial level court, and does not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Royalty Free Music Blog &#124; Micro Stock Music &#124; Sound Effects Discussion Forum &#187; TakeDowns Notices are the best defense</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2450989</link>
		<dc:creator>Royalty Free Music Blog &#124; Micro Stock Music &#124; Sound Effects Discussion Forum &#187; TakeDowns Notices are the best defense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this week, a Northern California court ruled that websites hosting copyright infringing material are not liable for copyright infringment so long as the do not encourgage the uploading and sharing of material that infringes upon the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2450903</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this ruling could really have a huge impact on the future of the online video and music industries</description>
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		<title>By: Between the Lines mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2450411</link>
		<dc:creator>Between the Lines mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Quadrangle To Buy Research Firm Greenfield For $486 Million; Selling Off Most Of It TechCrunch: What The Veoh Decision Means For YouTube And Others AppleInsider: Apple details next-gen multi-touch techniques for tablet Macs Roland Piquepaille: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Transcoding is NOT a Crime! &#124; David Ortez</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449916</link>
		<dc:creator>Transcoding is NOT a Crime! &#124; David Ortez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and logical approach can be applied to the evolving ethical, moral and legal dilemmas that arise. Arrington further entertains the impact of the Veoh decision and offers his interpretation of how online [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VEOH decision about copyright &#171; Rashmi&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449838</link>
		<dc:creator>VEOH decision about copyright &#171; Rashmi&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch&#8217;s analysis of the ruling is that as long as video sharing sites (and I am extending that to presentation sharing sites) do below, they are protected under safe harbord provision. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DMCA safe harbor protects Veoh online video sharing &#8212; major victory that may help YouTube &#171; The Utube Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449802</link>
		<dc:creator>DMCA safe harbor protects Veoh online video sharing &#8212; major victory that may help YouTube &#171; The Utube Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] safe harbor.  Michael Arrington of Tech Crunch has 2 excellent analyses of the decision here and here.  One of the key parts of the ruling is that a video sharing site does not become disqualifed from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449772</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred,  thanks for the concise analysis and all of the good work that the EFF does!</description>
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		<title>By: Judge: Site Not Liable in Titan Media Copyright Case : The Adams Report by JC Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449733</link>
		<dc:creator>Judge: Site Not Liable in Titan Media Copyright Case : The Adams Report by JC Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] XBIZ: “Veoh Porn Case Rules in Favor of Tube Sites” AVN: “Judge: Tube Site Not Liable for Infringement in Titan Media Copyright Suit” TechCrunch.com: “What the Veoh Decision Means for YouTube and Others” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fred von Lohmann</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449652</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred von Lohmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred von Lohmann from EFF here. While I agree with much of Michael&#039;s analysis, I think he&#039;s wrong when he says &quot;Use fingerprinting and other technology to detect copyrighted material, even if the methods are flawed.&quot; Veoh had no such filters (other than hashing for material previously removed) and the court gave them a free pass. 

So while the entertainment industries may be pushing for fingerprinting and filtering, there&#039;s nothing in the DMCA that requires it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred von Lohmann from EFF here. While I agree with much of Michael&#8217;s analysis, I think he&#8217;s wrong when he says &#8220;Use fingerprinting and other technology to detect copyrighted material, even if the methods are flawed.&#8221; Veoh had no such filters (other than hashing for material previously removed) and the court gave them a free pass. </p>
<p>So while the entertainment industries may be pushing for fingerprinting and filtering, there&#8217;s nothing in the DMCA that requires it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449520</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who is in the process of developing a video-sharing site, a ruling such as this makes me more comfortable than I was even a few days ago in regards to legal, and illegal, videos.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449446</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that list of requirements, I&#039;m not all that excited:

&quot;Take measures to control infringing users. Specifically, infringing accounts need to be terminated and the email banned from any new accounts.&quot;

At what point? On the first infringement? After 10?

&quot;Sites are encouraged to spot check videos, and if they do, to remove content that is likely infringing.&quot;

&quot;Likely&quot; based on what? Maybe I actually DO own the rights. Or maybe what I&#039;ve put up is permitted under Fair Use. It&#039;s too broad.

Maybe the ambiguities are good, though - it leaves room for these sites to comply without being overly aggressive. But I worry that they might go the other way instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that list of requirements, I&#8217;m not all that excited:</p>
<p>&#8220;Take measures to control infringing users. Specifically, infringing accounts need to be terminated and the email banned from any new accounts.&#8221;</p>
<p>At what point? On the first infringement? After 10?</p>
<p>&#8220;Sites are encouraged to spot check videos, and if they do, to remove content that is likely infringing.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Likely&#8221; based on what? Maybe I actually DO own the rights. Or maybe what I&#8217;ve put up is permitted under Fair Use. It&#8217;s too broad.</p>
<p>Maybe the ambiguities are good, though &#8211; it leaves room for these sites to comply without being overly aggressive. But I worry that they might go the other way instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Volumen de Datos de YouTube &#171; Carlos Velasco&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Volumen de Datos de YouTube &#171; Carlos Velasco&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 28, 2008 in Internet &#124; Tags: YouTube &#124;    Encontré en TechCrunch, que los usuarios de YouTube suben cada minuto, 780 minutos (13 horas) de nuevos videos!!! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fair Electronic Use &#187; Judge Defends DMCA, Veho Prevails in Lawsuit</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449442</link>
		<dc:creator>Fair Electronic Use &#187; Judge Defends DMCA, Veho Prevails in Lawsuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch summarizes the court&#8217;s decision, saying that online video sites are protected under the safe harbor provisions of the DMCA if they: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449378</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fine, but given that the DMCA says quite plainly that, once notified, if you follow reasonable steps to remove infringing material (like those outlined in the OP) and you register as an ISP, you will have Safe Harbor, I&#039;m not looking for a reversal here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fine, but given that the DMCA says quite plainly that, once notified, if you follow reasonable steps to remove infringing material (like those outlined in the OP) and you register as an ISP, you will have Safe Harbor, I&#8217;m not looking for a reversal here.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-2449359</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an IP attorney and I think you&#039;re reading far too much into this.

Summary judgments are often overturned on appeal and I doubt this will have much impact on the YouTube lawsuit for a number of reasons.

In this case the plaintiff did not even provide notification under the DMCA and that was very problematic and made the claims less believable because there was no way Veoh could have had knowledge of the infringement.

In the YouTube case it is going to be difficult for YouTube to argue that it didn&#039;t have actual and constructive knowledge of the infringement because it has been sent hundreds of thousands of takedown notices and has interacted directly with plaintiffs on the issue of copyright infringement.

There is no real precedent set here. District court opinions are frequently corrected or dismissed entirely at the appellate level. So saying that a magistrate judge in California district court believes transcoding isn&#039;t a big deal does not mean that an appellate court or the Supreme Court won&#039;t disagree upon a more complete evaluation of the issue.

Attorneys representing online video websites will salivate once there are appellate level rulings (or a Supreme Court ruling).

Everybody looking at this should remember that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in August 2004 ruled in favor of Grokster as part of the MGM/RIAA/MPAA suit against it.

That ruling was overturned by the Supreme Court so any attorney resting their hopes on a summary judgment from a MAGISTRATE judge is insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an IP attorney and I think you&#8217;re reading far too much into this.</p>
<p>Summary judgments are often overturned on appeal and I doubt this will have much impact on the YouTube lawsuit for a number of reasons.</p>
<p>In this case the plaintiff did not even provide notification under the DMCA and that was very problematic and made the claims less believable because there was no way Veoh could have had knowledge of the infringement.</p>
<p>In the YouTube case it is going to be difficult for YouTube to argue that it didn&#8217;t have actual and constructive knowledge of the infringement because it has been sent hundreds of thousands of takedown notices and has interacted directly with plaintiffs on the issue of copyright infringement.</p>
<p>There is no real precedent set here. District court opinions are frequently corrected or dismissed entirely at the appellate level. So saying that a magistrate judge in California district court believes transcoding isn&#8217;t a big deal does not mean that an appellate court or the Supreme Court won&#8217;t disagree upon a more complete evaluation of the issue.</p>
<p>Attorneys representing online video websites will salivate once there are appellate level rulings (or a Supreme Court ruling).</p>
<p>Everybody looking at this should remember that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in August 2004 ruled in favor of Grokster as part of the MGM/RIAA/MPAA suit against it.</p>
<p>That ruling was overturned by the Supreme Court so any attorney resting their hopes on a summary judgment from a MAGISTRATE judge is insane.</p>
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