Despite the fact that I lived there, I have a long running feud with Canada, which I loving refer to as the 51st state. Now we have more absurd news coming from the frozen wasteland to the north.
And it is also awesome PR for the previously little-known Barbados-based (It’s actually Canadian, but they are almost certainly officially in Barbados for tax minimization) startup PickupPal, which puts people together traveling to the same destination to carpool.
It turns out that Ontario, which includes Toronto and the capital city Ottawa, has strict laws regulating carpooling under the Public Vehicles Act. This is despite the fact that the government has spent “billions” in carpooling lanes. Carpoolers can only travel from home to work and back, must ride with the same driver every day and can only pay by the week, among other restrictions.
A bus company asked the Ontario Highway Transport Board to ban PickupPal’s service in the province based on the regulations, and the Board scheduled a hearing on the matter. PickupPal gathered support against the ridiculous case, and the government is now said to be reconsidering the laws.
Bureaucracy is awesome.
Lots more details on this PickupPal site.
Global warming is a sham. That 2 headed fish was a plant by greenpeace.
http://edmonton...19/6506211.html
Come on now Mike. Lets forget the fact that Canada per capita is number one in energy consumption worldwide. Lets focus on China or the way in Iraq.
war in iraq oops
Canada is NOT the number one in energy consumption per capita worldwide if you trust Wikipedia (http://en.wikip...tion_per_capita). There are roughly 10 countries using even more energy.
Plus, Canada’s consumption is just 6% higher than that of the US. Compare that to the ratio USA/Germany or USA/Japan, which is a factor of 2.
WRT Iraq: wasn’t oil the reason for the US attacking Iran?
@Gebadia – You seem quite ill informed. Not only can one not just look at a list as conclusive, but considering that Canada is far more to the north where it gets colder longer, I assume that a lot of the energy consumption is related to that. Additionally, the high energy use mining and logging industries are also a far greater per capita influence in Canada.
If one wants to consider the per capita energy consumption, it has to be on a consumer level, not an economic level. In other words, in case you don’t understand; for example, the timber and ore that you use in the US does not get calculated into the US per capita energy consumption levels.
You should probably know that zip.ca has probably the same amount of users today as it did when you left it 5 years ago. We’re still a way great country though.
I’m from Canada and I can tell you first hand, it’s simply intended to protect the jobs of the cab drivers.
The real screwup is the gov’t doesn’t realize all the cab drivers are Indians who come here and work for cash.
Just goes to show Canadian lawmakers and politicians can be just as smart as American ones. Hey, they learned it all attempting to imitate big brother.
Victory Darwin..The real screwup is the gov’t doesn’t realize all the cab drivers are Indians who come here and work for cash.
I fail to see what you are trying to bring up rather than some ignorant statement toward immigrants. So essentially so you are saying if the cab drivers are not Indians, the government is justified in what they are doing?
If you read the article again, you will know that the bus companies are having problems with it. Probably they are Italians, Russians or Chinese, right?
“Just goes to show Canadian lawmakers and politicians can be just as smart as American ones”
And there you again …Finding every opportunity to put down Americans. I feel sorry for you. Your life as a Canadian must be miserable.
If Canadian government is learning things from American politicians, how is it that Canadians are paying $6 per gallon for the same gas that “Canadians” are supplying to the US. And here, we are only paying about $4. It looks like our politicians should be learning all the dirty tricks from Canadian politicians on how to screw the general public and tax them to hell in the name of environment and carbon tax.
Mike you should take it easy. As for the Indian comment, anybody that live in Toronto will understand. And this is not a racist comment since many of my friends are from India.
Mr. Mike a very good reply indeed.
A very weak and and arbitrary remark Michael. I would expect a more informed and accurate editorial from such a non biased free thinker.
Noel
Another opinionated Americain who thinks he is right, no wonder Americains have to wear Canadian flags when the go abroad. Just because you dont like a law doesnt mean you have to bash the whole country. I think someone from Canada bruised your ego in the past and now you have to cry about it to the world to vindicate yourself.
As an American who has traveled extensively through Canada, I have only positive things to say about the country. It is by far the most beautiful third world country I have ever visited.
uh, I’m an American and have traveled extensively for business and pleasure and have never worn a Canadian flag nor told anyone I was Canadian and I don’t now anyone who has (or would even consider it). I can’t say it’s never happened but I don’t think it’s near as prevalent as you might think. That’s something you WISH people did….I know, I know, it makes you feel better and soothes your fragile ego. In any event, I don’t think Canada’s international reputation is quite as spectacular as you evidently think.
As a Canadian, I’m always dumbfounded by the stupid anti-American sentiment up here, especially from otherwise intelligent people. I’m inclined to think its a spin off tall poppy syndrome, or just a plain old inferiority complex. Either way, it makes us sound more ignorant and slack-jawed than those we’re accusing. Just STFU, and define your nationality by something other than how we’re not like – or better than – the US. It’s provincial and small-minded.
The real reason the law exists…PST. Provincial Sales Tax. There’s no way for the govt of Ontario to get their cut.
If there is one thing that Canada produces more per capita than any other country (besides GHGs), it is bureaucrats.
DO NOT OFFEND BRAZIL! We have much more bureaucrats screwing around here, you insensitive clod!
Oh, and there aint no car pooling lanes in Ottawa. I would venture to guess that there are no such lanes outside of Toronto. It is the center of the universe after all.
I would also like to add an important piece of disclosure. I am Canadian and am writing this from Toronto.
You sound like a nice guy Nathan. As usual its the few that give Toronto a bad rep – mostly Leaf fans. GO SENS.
“51st state” and “frozen wasteland”?
Although not mentioned above, it was a private company, Trentway-Wagar, that made this an issue. Not the government of Canada.
I was expecting a commenter to take that seriously by now (although the Canada hates the environment bait is still out).
The carpool lanes all over Ontario only require you to have one passenger to use them. It’s a quick way to get past busy traffic. I heard of some people even using blow up dolls.
I’m not against carpool lanes and I do think that the govt needs to re-evaluate its position. I do feel a need to point out though that the statement “carpool lanes all over Ontario” is bunk.
Plans for HOV lanes though 2017 don’t run all over the province. Niagara to Oshawa is hardly the whole province. (must resist another center of the universe crack – its not polite). http://tinyurl..../ontariohovplan
dMix you are partly correct – it is Trentway-Wagar that is bringing the issue forward. However the only reason they can is because the legislation in Ontario allows them to. It is illegal to carpool or rideshare with someone unless you meet ALL of the following criteria:
* You must travel from home to work only (no rides to schools, hospitals, food banks, etc.)
* You cannot cross municipal boundaries (no driving to adjacent municipality to GO Station, TTC Subway, City Centers, Airports, etc.)
* You must ride with the same driver each day (no exceptions sorry).
* You must pay the driver weekly only (bring your calculator).
Some examples of illegal ride sharing according to Ontario Government’s current Law:
If you arrange with your wife to pickup your uncle at the airport – you have broken the law. If you travel with a friend and give her $5 for gas money – you have broken the law.
I know that sounds absolutely ridiculous – because it is – however that is the way the law is written and every carpooling and ride sharing company that has come before Ontario Highway Transportation Board (OHTB) has been shut down. The OHTB has a strong tradition of following the letter of the law and as soon as a community of users starts to gain momentum they get shut down. We operate around the world so even if we cannot do business in Ontario we will keep on going – however we are not going to roll over on this issue.
Our objective is to get the Government to change the laws – that may seem ridiculous to think we can – but if we don’t stand up – who will?
Cheers – Eric
(CTO and co-founder of PickupPal)
Eric, I’d like to read the Act your refer to but there’s no link to it at http://save.pic...al.com/petition
ok I found the Act here: http://www.e-la...tes_90p54_e.htm
appears to me that the sticking point is that compensating the driver makes it a “public vehicle”. So your first example (wife picking up uncle at the airport) appears to be incorrect but the second example appears to be valid.
the definition of “compensation” which triggers the act seems to me to be too broad as it includes all payments; including payments solely to reimburse an expense like gas.
I don’t see anything in the act about weekly payments, crossing boundaries, work to home only but I guess those could be regulations made by the Board (allowed in the Act).
So maybe even if you get the Board to relax the regulations you still have that pesky definition of “compensation” in the Act itself.
Best of Luck. I still think its a lost cause. IANAL (thank god)
@ Bored to Tears – I will dig that up and post it online at http://save.pickuppal.com/ – For now you can get most of the act from this posting – http://www.pick...ds-Response.pdf – the act is cited within the decision of the OHTB to shut down a company called allostop. You can skip the first couple pages and go to page 3 for most of the details.
Thanks for your interest.
Cheers – Eric
@ Bored to Tears – thanks for digging that up – my second example is based on the section down lower in the Act – “Arranging transportation” – “No person shall arrange or offer to arrange the transportation of passengers by means of a public vehicle operated by another person unless that other person is the holder of an operating licence authorizing that other person to perform the transportation.”
So our rebuttal about us doing it all for free was dismissed – because for us to arrange the transportation meant that we broke the law. Just as a student puts up a posting on the Ride Board at the University – the University facilitated the arrangement of the transportation. The first part of the bus companies rebuttal to us clearly states that is how they believe we are in contravention of the law.
Thanks for the Best of Luck – we know it is a hard battle to wage – however someone should do it and since we are one of the largest ride sharing companies out there – we should take a run at it!
Cheers – Eric
ouch. looks similar to a guy in Ottawa who got nailed this summer for running an illegal taxi dispatch service. http://www.cbc....legal-cabs.html
@ bored to tears – yup that is a real issue. We focus on getting people to concerts, festivals, sporting events and school – teaming up with the Dave Matthews Band, John Mayer, Coachella San Fransisco Marathon – that kind of thing. The fellow charged for operating an illegal taxi service got busted based on a detailed investigation with multiple counts of violation. It is up to the OHTB to determine what the fines should be – when we go on October 15th. we will see what they will fine us should we lose (fingers crossed not to lose).
Sorry – posted too fast – that should read “The San Francisco Marathon” – O.K. time to go to bed . Thanks for the lively discussion!
Cheers – Eric
I know how stressful this is for you and your team. Years ago my own startup company (long gone) had a PST audit hanging over our heads with the potential for massive fines. We prevailed. Hope you prevail too.
@ bored to tears – thanks I appreciate it.
One way to fight a battle like ours is to show just how ridiculous the situation is. We took a page right out of the TC handbook and posted all the legal background info and asked the reporters to judge for themselves.
We operate in jurisdictions all around the world and only in Ontario have we had any issues – the laws need to change.
Thanks for the post
Cheers
Eric
(CTO and co-founder of PickupPal)
I use blow up dolls.
“Canada hates…..” remark is just not worth the effort!
51st state? Dumbass Americans think the continent revolves around them. Where did you live while in Canada anyway? On the street on welfare?
I will be careful calling Americans Dumbass. Americans are paying $4 for the same gas that Canadians are supplying the US. Guess how much Canadians are paying for their own gas ……. $6.
So think about it, who is the Dumbass?
Before you talk about high taxes in Canada you should also consider that we run a balanced budget, and have been doing so for nearly two decades.
Meanwhile, the US spends *billions* of dollars that it doesn’t have every year (going further in debt to Communist China and other “not-so-friendly” nations).
I don’t want to say “dumbass”, because I have a little more respect than that, but please think about it. How excited are your great-grandkids going to be about subsidizing your cheap gas?
C’mon man, think it through a little.
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!
Blame Canada.
Just read the missive over at PickupPal. Sorry guys. You’re depending on the crew run by “Premier Dalton McGuinty” to do the right thing.
ROFL. dream on. what a loser. I’m ashamed to admit he’s from my home town.
Go Sens!
This post is about as dumb as me writing “Michael Arrington is proof that America is full of idiots”
Michael, why do you write such hateful words about an entire country based on something happening in a single place?
I thought TechCrunch was better than this. Have some respect for yourself and the brand you’re creating.
I don’t want to read your site anymore now that it appears to be owned by an asshole. TechCrunch is great, but you’re bringing it down with posts like this.
What gave you the impression that TC was better than this?
You have to hand it to the “asshole” though, he knows how to write a catchy title. Nevermind accuracy or even the appearance of intelligence, it’s all about page views.
I’m a dual Canadian/US citizen, and I’ve spent an equal amount of time in each country. I can understand why Michael didn’t like living in Canada, he didn’t fit in. Canadians are polite, friendly and better educated.
“I live in Maine – which in a right-thinking world, would be Canadas 11th province” -Stephen King
I love everything about Canada except the winters in Ottawa, which are brutal. I especially love how touchy Canadians are.
@arrington It’s way too easy, so nobody can blame you for having some fun.
If there wasn’t a direct energy pipeline to the states I suspect Americans wouldnt feel they have the right to dictate our policy(s).
Next bitch. Water?
Very nice very green site.
It’s true, I’m a Canadian programmer and starting to hate this arrogant owner of the Techcrunch site. Very distasteful with no class. I’ll get my tech news elsewhere. This site is just beoming garbage and lost its appeal. I’m surprised he doesn’t promote Twitter anymore with B.S articles
I cannot believe how ignorant, arrogant, and unintelligent some of the statements in this post are. Starting with the title. What an insulting generalization.
This article sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the articles I usually read on here. Isn’t this Tech Crunch? Not “Canada hates the environment!”
Aren’t we supposed to be talking about a unique website that has made a country re-evaluate its legislation??
I live in Canada.
My brother is an American Citizen.
But who cares?
Who cares if you lived here? Who cares where you live? Tell me about the website.
If I want ignorant political commentary from a bitter former resident, I will go to a different website.
This is Tech Crunch. Not Canada Hate. Not America Hate.
Tech. Crunch.
Let’s hope it stays that way.
“Aren’t we supposed to be talking about a unique website that has made a country re-evaluate its legislation??”
That’s what i just did. I just did it in a way that got a lot more people to read it than if the title was “Canadian Government Reevaluates Carpooling Legislation.”
You must chill, Mr. I write comments in bold person.
I am pro-canada and a huge senators fan, to the extent that an american can truly be a hockey fan.
As a long time reader, I can vouch for Mike here. He’s not anti-Canadian.
He just really, really likes controversy (read: pageviews).
“I just did it in a way that got a lot more people to read it than if the title was “Canadian Government Reevaluates Carpooling Legislation.”
Can’t you rely on good content to build the TechCrunch name? Why must you resort to such cheesy, cheap tactics to get attention? Do you write for the tabloids as well?
I’ve lost a great deal of respect for you after this article. Remember that gentleman who told the world via TechCrunch about his shady tactics for promoting videos on YouTube? It got attention but the guy sure came across as a schmuck. Today Michael, you are that schmuck.
Trolls. It’s a headline – if it got your attention (and it did) then it worked.
I’m more patriotic than most Canadians… but learn to save the fire for where it’s needed.
I love the idea and the design of the site. I´m just wondering sometimes there are concepts to see, that were not transferred from the us/ca to germany but vice versa. I think from the ecological point of view even us/ca can learn from europeans. There are a lot of sites like this one in germany for years..
@ CouchTycoon – Yes you are correct, this is not a new idea and when we were researching carpooling around the world – it was Europe that had some of the most innovative ideas. In Germany it was the evolution of Mitfahrzentrale that I found really interesting.
Cheers – Eric
I’m a US citizen living in Canada the past 11 years. Dumb comments like the ones made in this post make me miss the ignorant freedom-fries-lovin yokel hicks in the States just a little less. Who needs it? Good bye, TechCrunch. I thought you were better than that.
you’ll be back. you miss me already.
Read between the lines people
How clumsy it is of you to use (your?)TechCrunch to propagate Al Gore-ian or shall I say allegorian stupidity. Your claims about Canada being a polluting nation are about as ignorant as your soon-to-be demised Bush/Cheney government. THEY are the real specialists of pollution and other ultrascrap (like Iraq…).
I fear that in, say, 20 years all that will be left of this religion called “Environmentalism” will be some green-tea sipping, müslix-sniffing hippies like you Mike.
For what it’s worth: GO SENS GO!!!!
I am most definitely not a hippie.
the only reason Canada appears to be more enviro than the USA is because we have more trees…
but that’s only because we started chopping them down later.
…great title btw, provocation=pageviews. learned that from the master of audacity, Dan Kennedy!
Wow. Hard to believe that the epicenter of confusion, Washingon DC, is ahead of Canada in this regard:
http://www.slug-lines.com/
Michael, please hold TechCrunch to a higher standard of journalism than this.
I really want to keep reading TechCrunch, but I’ve lost a lot of respect for you and this blog because of these kind of posts. You’ve fouled the TechCrunch brand for me.
Please don’t sacrifice the TechCrunch brand to simply get some extra links and pageviews by purposely writing rediculous inflamatory crap.
I live in Northern Ontario (trust me, I know all about the winters) and have lived in California as well and the US is definitely more environmentally aware, but what’s being done about it depends on where you are in either place.
Canada’s shitty environmental policy = Stephen Harper.
Guys, don’t forget that this is provincial law, before blaming a country. For example, allostop (www.allostop.com) exists for quite some time, it even started as an offline service.
@guti – you are correct – actually the last company like ours to get shut down in Ontario was Allostop in 2001. They shut down the Ontario part of their operations and have kept on going and providing a great service in Quebec.
Cheers – Eric
Like somebody mentioned, this is really an absolutely stupid and useless subject…”car-pooling..!?..Claiming that this affects the environment, is like saying that games of soccer or baseball or any other high energy game affects the environment by consuming too much oxygen from environment.
CHINA is ONE BIG FAT DISGUSTING CRIMINAL.
Their crimes against environment is impossible to describe in figures and words. They are NAZIS in this field.
And what about them raising thousands of dogs and cats in a very small cages for just one ugly and sick purpose: to skin them alive for their fur to be used on cheap coats and jackets to be old in WALMART, TARGET, and other stores around the world.
I didn’t even watch a single minute of these idiotic ugly political peeeece games.
Chinese make me sick. Their food makes me sick. All their “culture” is based on barbarism.
Wow, somebody’s really angry and racist. I’ll take a chance and guess that you’re a white American. Try to view things through the eyes of another culture. I’m not saying that raising thousands of dogs and cats in small cages for their fur is alright, what I’m saying it, they’re cats and dogs. They’re animals. It’s the same thing as raising cattle for meat. The only reason why people are outraged by stuff like that is because they are dogs and cats and you’ve come to associate them to being friendly companions. People wouldn’t have given a second thought were they using rats.
Also, if they’re making them that means someone is buying them. You mention Walmart and Target. Those are American companies. That means that they are paying to have those cheap coats and jackets made.
As for your “Chinese make me sick. Their food makes me sick. All their “culture” is based on barbarism” comment, well bigotry and ignorant, self-righteous xenophobes make me sick.
Since when is Ontario considered all of Canada.
Things we’ve established so far:
1. Anti-Canada jokes are still popular for some Americans (and even more so with some Canadians);
2. Provocative titles for less-than-mediocre articles still work;
3. “Professional” blogs are all about generating pageviews for revenue purposes rather than putting out original content.
Good job, sir.
For a person that is formerly Canadian, he/she should know that once province does not make up all of Canada. Yes, our capitol is in Ontario but we have both Federal and Provincial laws.
Canada has carpool lanes?
omfg pageviews!
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Let’s be honest here. Michael Arrington is looking for attention. And he is getting it.
As a Canadian though I do agree that we suck at being environmentally friendly. We can do better.
Do you have to piss everyone off Michael?
Since the website and company are Barbados registered, who the hell cares what Ontario’s legislation is? The website can keep running as normal, and just ignore the laws of Ontario, which as evidenced by anyone with common sense are totally insane and only benefit the monopolies in place, like bus companies. If you want to carpool, you should be able to, regardless of destination classification, and no law stopping you from doing so would ever stand up in court.
You’re all robots. Crazy americano-gringo-war-fightin robots.
Yeah, this is pretty lame for a tech site. Like a lot of others, I think I’ve had my fill of Mr. Arrington’s being an a-hole for added page views.
I think your advertisers should consider that their ads aren’t in the comments threads, which is where your lame remarks drive attention.
And if you actually had a speck of journalistic pride, you wouldn’t write something like this and then try to backtrack in the comments (pro-canada, etc. – give me a break and grab some balls to stand behind what you write).
Hopefully there are TechCrunch people around you that will take the comments in this thread to heart b/c there’s not much value in having an offensive moron destroying the TechCrunch brand.
One more longtime TechCrunch user signing off for good – nice work, Mikey.
In defense of Michael I think the spirit and intent in which the article was written was to bring attention to the issue. Carpooling is just not sexy – it is great on many levels but it is not viral like many of the ideas that are presented here on Techcrunch. Like Michael said, if he was to say “Carpool regulation gets in the way of Startup” – well I am sure many of you would have skimmed on posting. What I also think his post speaks to is the restrictive atmosphere in Canada when it comes to startups – in the US it is considered being brave and innovative to be a startup, in Canada it is considered to be a crazy risky idea. He lived here, he had startups here and I know that he knows what he is talking about because he has walked the walk.
We of course benefit from this controversy and I appreciate Michael sticking his neck out and poking people with a stick to raise awareness. I know I love reading TC because he calls it the way he sees it and even if for example he has a criticism of something that he is an investor in – he speaks his mind.
There are those right now who think I am kissing *ss here and that is your right – however I for one appreciate that TC is the way it is and just as the boys at Southpark don’t believe that Canada is an evil nation – I believe Michael is of the same frame of mind.
Michael does not duck, he signs his name to something and he stands behind it and I think that is pretty cool in the age of internet anonymity.
Cheers – Eric
CTO – Co-Founder of PickupPal
If you have to bash a country to generate more views then what does that say about the content or the writers on this site? What happened to your talent? I might as well be reading TMZ for this kind of crap.
Being a Sens fan is where you lost your marbles. The Sens suck and so does your view on Canada.
Do our job with some dignity and the talent you had before you sunk this low!
You are absolutely right about canadians. They are so ultra annoying and passive aggressive. You go Michael, with your witty, eye-catching headlines. You are nearly Phelpsian in your diagnoses about their hypocrisy.
USA! USA! USA!
At Michael – Has there been a post recently regarding Canadian owned tech companies getting funding from the US?
We are getting our 2nd round (10MM), and have yet to see a comparison of US vs Canadian VC funded tech companies, or perhaps more interesting; an overall comparison of which countries produce the best tech investments and go the distance after 2nd/ 3rd rounds.
Just a thought – - –
The ‘get eyeballs by being provocative’ approach is going well I see(!)
for those of you who are interested – I’m walking around Old Montreal today in a t-shirt being stunned by the level of gorgeous women (as per usual) that inhabit this ‘frozen wasteland’
The fact that the title is “Canada hates…” when your article only refers to Ontario makes this look like the work of a amateur… But I guess that’s what blogging is right?
If only Texas had banned this service, would your headline state, “more proof that America hates the environment?” I bet not. Bad work.
Canada is Cold!
Americans are Brain Dead hicks!
Canada pays too much tax!
Americans will all die from private healthcare!
Canadians are wimps!
Americans are racist world destroying fatties!
Go Leafs!
Go Cowboys!
…. Did I cover it all?
Canada vs. US Threads are booooo-oring. Please, this is old.
Derka der.
Part of the screw up here is overlapping government jurisdiction. Carpool lanes within cities are an area of municipal jurisdiction. Toronto can create all the carpool lanes it wants, but it doesn’t regulate transportation (the only provincial road I am aware of that has a carpool lane is Highway 404, which runs north/south between Toronto and Newmarket) and very few people bother to take advantage of.
I accidentally hit send to soon on that last comment too soon, I meant to say that very few people bother to take advantage of the highway carpool lanes…I am on highways in the Greater Toronto Area several times a week commuting (and carpooling!) and notice the vast majority of the cars on the road are single drivers. There’s a real need for a service like this, hopefully the Ontario gov’t will get the regulations out of its way.
@ Andrew – My business partner John got the idea of creating PickupPal while he was stuck on the onramp to the DVP coming off from the 401 last September. He looked out and saw the sea of cars underneath him – all with just one person in it – the driver. It seems ridiculous that in this day and age we cannot coordinate people to double up and cut down! As with this challenge if we do not stand up to change things – who will?
Cheers – Eric
pshhhh….relax. As if those laws are enforceable. No cop is going to pull you over and ask about who is paying for the gas or if you are all car-pooling with the same people each day/week. In my mind, there are 2 kinds of laws: those that can be enforced and those that cannot. So relax a bit.
@ brent – I agree relaxing is good however I am not sure I understand who you think need sto relax. As individuals I agree the chances of getting pulled over and busted in the carpool lane are slim (having said that – Trentway-Wagar hired a private investigator to go online and pose as a PickupPal member looking for a ride as part of their investigation – http://www.pick...onAffidavit.pdf – so it is not far fetched that enforcement officers would not do the same).
Getting back to the relaxing issue – as a corporation PickupPal cannot pretend they did not get the memo – so we need to take it a bit more seriously than looking the other way when a police cruiser drives by.
Cheers – Eric
Pretty funny to hear an arrigton American complain about Canadian laws…
