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		<title>By: Quick Recap of the whole Widgetlaboratory &#8211; Ning story &#124; Widgets Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-2/#comment-3058222</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Recap of the whole Widgetlaboratory &#8211; Ning story &#124; Widgets Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WidgetLaboratory Strikes Back At Ning Where It Hurts [...]</description>
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		<title>By: politick</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-2/#comment-2634530</link>
		<dc:creator>politick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looking past all the bull; my conclusion would be that Ning saw the profit potential, and chose stick it to a site that they hosted in order to steal the profit for themselves.

personally I&#039;d have to say they overestimated their position and will suffer the consequences of other companies who will not sign under them for fear of their ideas being stolen.


( I searched out information about Ning looking for anything that would suggest this kind of thing was happening before i would join their site)


BOY; AM IGLAD I DID</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking past all the bull; my conclusion would be that Ning saw the profit potential, and chose stick it to a site that they hosted in order to steal the profit for themselves.</p>
<p>personally I&#8217;d have to say they overestimated their position and will suffer the consequences of other companies who will not sign under them for fear of their ideas being stolen.</p>
<p>( I searched out information about Ning looking for anything that would suggest this kind of thing was happening before i would join their site)</p>
<p>BOY; AM IGLAD I DID</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2534954</link>
		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, HC!  I totally agree!  They will fail miserably ...</description>
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		<title>By: WidgetLaboratory Turns To Newcomer SocialGO After Ning Debacle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-2/#comment-2513160</link>
		<dc:creator>WidgetLaboratory Turns To Newcomer SocialGO After Ning Debacle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feud this Summer with Ning after being shut out of the build-your-own social network platform over questionable behavior around its Terms of Service. TechCrunch called the third party widget developers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] feud this Summer with Ning after being shut out of the build-your-own social network platform over questionable behavior around its Terms of Service. TechCrunch called the third party widget developers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Turadg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-2/#comment-2510361</link>
		<dc:creator>Turadg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update, in case anyone is still reading this thread:

The Ning discussion thread in which frustrated Ning network developers discussed the new platform &quot;update&quot; has been deleted by Ning.  If you want to discuss the platform changes, try this blog post:
http://openeducationresearch.blogspot.com/2008/10/ning-unannounced-rest-api-termination.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update, in case anyone is still reading this thread:</p>
<p>The Ning discussion thread in which frustrated Ning network developers discussed the new platform &#8220;update&#8221; has been deleted by Ning.  If you want to discuss the platform changes, try this blog post:<br />
<a href="http://openeducationresearch.blogspot.com/2008/10/ning-unannounced-rest-api-termination.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://openeducationresearch.blogspot.com/2008/10/ning-unannounced-rest-api-termination.html'>http://openeduc...ermination.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Turadg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-2/#comment-2509584</link>
		<dc:creator>Turadg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, today Ning turned off their REST endpoints, with no notice.

http://blog.ning.com/2008/10/the-ning-platform-a-few-updates.html

GETs just return empty and my scripts all died.  Anyone else affected by this?

I posted a comment on that blog but the moderators didn&#039;t want it on there. To their credit, they replied to me directly, but I hoped to start a discussion about who is affected by this.  I must say, these rash moves by Ning aren&#039;t the best way to build a community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, today Ning turned off their REST endpoints, with no notice.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.ning.com/2008/10/the-ning-platform-a-few-updates.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.ning.com/2008/10/the-ning-platform-a-few-updates.html'>http://blog.nin...ew-updates.html</a></p>
<p>GETs just return empty and my scripts all died.  Anyone else affected by this?</p>
<p>I posted a comment on that blog but the moderators didn&#8217;t want it on there. To their credit, they replied to me directly, but I hoped to start a discussion about who is affected by this.  I must say, these rash moves by Ning aren&#8217;t the best way to build a community.</p>
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		<title>By: Adventures in Blogging &#124; entrepreMusings</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2463924</link>
		<dc:creator>Adventures in Blogging &#124; entrepreMusings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the questionable results of social networks from a business model perspective, and with some of the widget partner issues his company is facing.  But Marc&#8217;s a tried and true entrepreneur so I&#8217;m sure he and his team will figure [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the questionable results of social networks from a business model perspective, and with some of the widget partner issues his company is facing.  But Marc&#8217;s a tried and true entrepreneur so I&#8217;m sure he and his team will figure [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nal Twohearts</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2456448</link>
		<dc:creator>Nal Twohearts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You go TN!</description>
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		<title>By: Weekly Digest of the Social Networking Space: August 27, 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2447670</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Digest of the Social Networking Space: August 27, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ning boots Widgetlaboratory Ning removes Widetlabs from developer network, citing violation of terms of use, Widgetlabs fights back launches opensource widgets and hints at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ning boots Widgetlaboratory Ning removes Widetlabs from developer network, citing violation of terms of use, Widgetlabs fights back launches opensource widgets and hints at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Malton</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2447407</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Malton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too wide spread and popular? Only 2,000 networks out of a few hundred thousand used their WL - and WL fucked up the platform every other day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too wide spread and popular? Only 2,000 networks out of a few hundred thousand used their WL &#8211; and WL fucked up the platform every other day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Malton</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2447405</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Malton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They did not promote a platform. They spammed the shit out of every new network that started up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did not promote a platform. They spammed the shit out of every new network that started up.</p>
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		<title>By: Geir</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2446177</link>
		<dc:creator>Geir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fail to realize this was a planned shutdown to get rid of a competitor.  Yes, small compared to Ning, but their ideas and solutions became too popular and widespread, and probably Ning were afraid they would loose the control of future development with an even stronger WL userbase.  Anyway, this was poorly handled by Ning. WL&#039;s statement of releasing tools to create such a network on our own sites may not be revolutionary, but using my own site independently from any ad-driven/premium site where you more or less feel like being in a clamshell, clearly is something I will look into asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fail to realize this was a planned shutdown to get rid of a competitor.  Yes, small compared to Ning, but their ideas and solutions became too popular and widespread, and probably Ning were afraid they would loose the control of future development with an even stronger WL userbase.  Anyway, this was poorly handled by Ning. WL&#8217;s statement of releasing tools to create such a network on our own sites may not be revolutionary, but using my own site independently from any ad-driven/premium site where you more or less feel like being in a clamshell, clearly is something I will look into asap.</p>
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		<title>By: just another opinion</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2446148</link>
		<dc:creator>just another opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it doesn&#039;t exactly show WL in a good light. It shows just what an arrogant asshole this Spence guy really is. Unprofessional is an understatement. It blows my mind that this guy thinks his emails will help his case. For God&#039;s sake, get your finger outta your butt, and wake up Spence! You did this to yourself. Course, I think there&#039;s even more to this story. I think this Spence planned the whole thing, thinking he could cause all this hoopla (gotta give em credit for that), but hoping that it would all end in his court, his favor, and make him a hero in widgetland with other SN platforms. IDK, if I were the CEO or CIO of another SN platform Co., I&#039;d run for the hills. I wouldn&#039;t touch this guy, or his pretty little widgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t exactly show WL in a good light. It shows just what an arrogant asshole this Spence guy really is. Unprofessional is an understatement. It blows my mind that this guy thinks his emails will help his case. For God&#8217;s sake, get your finger outta your butt, and wake up Spence! You did this to yourself. Course, I think there&#8217;s even more to this story. I think this Spence planned the whole thing, thinking he could cause all this hoopla (gotta give em credit for that), but hoping that it would all end in his court, his favor, and make him a hero in widgetland with other SN platforms. IDK, if I were the CEO or CIO of another SN platform Co., I&#8217;d run for the hills. I wouldn&#8217;t touch this guy, or his pretty little widgets.</p>
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		<title>By: fosat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445680</link>
		<dc:creator>fosat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BreakingNews: Ning has &lt;a href=&quot;http://networkcreators.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=492224%3ATopic%3A319369&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;turned off WebDav and SFTP access&lt;/a&gt; for Network creators for the time being.

PHP is no longer allowed in the Analytics box too. You can find this in the comments in the above networkcreators.ning.com thread.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;As part of this work, we also permanently closed a security hole in the analytics tracking box. Javascript and HTML should continue to function as usual.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Is Ning more stable now after WL has been removed or is the platform just as it is and always has been. &quot;.........&quot; (fill in yourself).

Ning is  active giving  their own &lt;a href=&quot;http://networkcreators.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=492224%3ATopic%3A320579&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alternative to chat&lt;/a&gt;.

Also WidgetLaboratory is suddenly offering &lt;a href=&quot;http://widgetlaboratory.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-im-now-available-once-again-for-all.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHO-IM&lt;/a&gt;  (Who&#039;s Online) again too.
Good News for NCs

&lt;a href=&quot;http://fosat.tumblr.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fosat&lt;/a&gt; - 
The Future of Sex and Technology </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BreakingNews: Ning has <a href="http://networkcreators.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=492224%3ATopic%3A319369" rel="nofollow">turned off WebDav and SFTP access</a> for Network creators for the time being.</p>
<p>PHP is no longer allowed in the Analytics box too. You can find this in the comments in the above networkcreators.ning.com thread.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;As part of this work, we also permanently closed a security hole in the analytics tracking box. Javascript and HTML should continue to function as usual.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Is Ning more stable now after WL has been removed or is the platform just as it is and always has been. &quot;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&quot; (fill in yourself).</p>
<p>Ning is  active giving  their own <a href="http://networkcreators.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=492224%3ATopic%3A320579" rel="nofollow">alternative to chat</a>.</p>
<p>Also WidgetLaboratory is suddenly offering <a href="http://widgetlaboratory.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-im-now-available-once-again-for-all.html" rel="nofollow">WHO-IM</a>  (Who&#8217;s Online) again too.<br />
Good News for NCs</p>
<p><a href="http://fosat.tumblr.com" rel="nofollow">fosat</a> &#8211;<br />
The Future of Sex and Technology</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch en français &#187; L&#8217;étonnante affaire Ning-Widget Laboratory; Méfions-nous des apparences</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445466</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch en français &#187; L&#8217;étonnante affaire Ning-Widget Laboratory; Méfions-nous des apparences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nous une indignation autour de cette histoire qui n&#8217;était pas justifiée; tout ceci pour attirer l&#8217;attention de la communauté. Tres mal joué !     CrunchBase Information   WidgetLaboratory  Ning  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nous une indignation autour de cette histoire qui n&#8217;était pas justifiée; tout ceci pour attirer l&#8217;attention de la communauté. Tres mal joué !     CrunchBase Information   WidgetLaboratory  Ning  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445243</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... From reading the emails, seems like Gina either lost her temper, or never really wanted to negotiate in the first place.  And I guess Spencer wasn&#039;t very good at containing his emotions, either.

From the outside,  its hard to gauge whether or not WL was really causing serious issues with Ning&#039;s network, but this is just as much Ning&#039;s fault as WL&#039;s.  Anyway, the elephant in the room is the fact Ning turned off Dojo without any notification.  If that isn&#039;t evidence of bad faith, it is incompetence beyond belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; From reading the emails, seems like Gina either lost her temper, or never really wanted to negotiate in the first place.  And I guess Spencer wasn&#8217;t very good at containing his emotions, either.</p>
<p>From the outside,  its hard to gauge whether or not WL was really causing serious issues with Ning&#8217;s network, but this is just as much Ning&#8217;s fault as WL&#8217;s.  Anyway, the elephant in the room is the fact Ning turned off Dojo without any notification.  If that isn&#8217;t evidence of bad faith, it is incompetence beyond belief.</p>
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		<title>By: skins4ning</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445226</link>
		<dc:creator>skins4ning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jay,

What does suitable for framing mean?

Thanks
JP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jay,</p>
<p>What does suitable for framing mean?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
JP</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Parasol pic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Parasol pic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for them.  What happened to open source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for them.  What happened to open source?</p>
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		<title>By: ResidentCynic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445165</link>
		<dc:creator>ResidentCynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the email link.  This is easy.  

1) WL has created some popular widgets that broke Ning
2) Ning made  unannounced changes that broke WL
3) Gina wants to discuss
4) Spencer wants to discuss
4a) But, Spencer is protoypical arrogant nerd &quot;dick&quot; (wonder if Andreesen sees the irony)
5) Ning decided dealing with punk not worth it and pulls plug on WL
6) Spencer says Ning is just jealous of their brilliant creation (i.e., the usual nerd retreat cry)

The end.

See nerds - this is one of those situations where being nice about things instead of going hostile gets you where you want to go faster.  You can be smart, &quot;important&quot;, and nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the email link.  This is easy.  </p>
<p>1) WL has created some popular widgets that broke Ning<br />
2) Ning made  unannounced changes that broke WL<br />
3) Gina wants to discuss<br />
4) Spencer wants to discuss<br />
4a) But, Spencer is protoypical arrogant nerd &#8220;dick&#8221; (wonder if Andreesen sees the irony)<br />
5) Ning decided dealing with punk not worth it and pulls plug on WL<br />
6) Spencer says Ning is just jealous of their brilliant creation (i.e., the usual nerd retreat cry)</p>
<p>The end.</p>
<p>See nerds &#8211; this is one of those situations where being nice about things instead of going hostile gets you where you want to go faster.  You can be smart, &#8220;important&#8221;, and nice.</p>
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		<title>By: BlogReader</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445145</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The smart way to have handled this on gNing’s part would be to quietly develop your own replacement widgets and quickly flip the switch&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah that&#039;s a great idea ... if you don&#039;t want anyone new developing products for your platform.  Why would anyone invest anything into developing a business basedon NING if NING can just turn them off after copying their products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The smart way to have handled this on gNing’s part would be to quietly develop your own replacement widgets and quickly flip the switch</i></p>
<p>Yeah that&#8217;s a great idea &#8230; if you don&#8217;t want anyone new developing products for your platform.  Why would anyone invest anything into developing a business basedon NING if NING can just turn them off after copying their products?</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Post The Evidence Unless It Supports Your Case</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445130</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Post The Evidence Unless It Supports Your Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] flat out lied in their initial communications around the ban, and then used the situation to get further attention from the community. These guys are idiots.   CrunchBase Information   WidgetLaboratory  Ning  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] flat out lied in their initial communications around the ban, and then used the situation to get further attention from the community. These guys are idiots.   CrunchBase Information   WidgetLaboratory  Ning  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445126</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is is the link to the email thread between Ning &amp; WL
http://widgetlaboratory.blogspot.com/

Not using the Ning network or any of WL&#039;s widgets I must say it&#039;s the typical story you see between David and Goliath.

Unless there are some emails missing it&#039;s clear that this move was orchestrated some time ago by Ning. 

If Ning is to deliver similar widgets &quot;in the coming weeks&quot; then it really does become evident that Ning&#039;s email exchanges are filled with malice and only as to show up as a &quot;record&quot; in future leagl proceedings.

The funniest email exchanges comes from Ning&#039;s attorney. When I see an attorney using &quot;technical buzzwords&quot;,  I chuckle. 

Not having any interest in any of the two parties - but, given the choice of taking a side after reviewing the email exchanges I would back WL on this matter. As a matter of fact the defensive posture of Ning&#039;s CEO warrants her resignation, imho.

The unfortunately loser in this &quot;tug of war&quot; are the end users. What a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is is the link to the email thread between Ning &amp; WL<br />
<a href="http://widgetlaboratory.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://widgetlaboratory.blogspot.com/'>http://widgetla...y.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Not using the Ning network or any of WL&#8217;s widgets I must say it&#8217;s the typical story you see between David and Goliath.</p>
<p>Unless there are some emails missing it&#8217;s clear that this move was orchestrated some time ago by Ning. </p>
<p>If Ning is to deliver similar widgets &#8220;in the coming weeks&#8221; then it really does become evident that Ning&#8217;s email exchanges are filled with malice and only as to show up as a &#8220;record&#8221; in future leagl proceedings.</p>
<p>The funniest email exchanges comes from Ning&#8217;s attorney. When I see an attorney using &#8220;technical buzzwords&#8221;,  I chuckle. </p>
<p>Not having any interest in any of the two parties &#8211; but, given the choice of taking a side after reviewing the email exchanges I would back WL on this matter. As a matter of fact the defensive posture of Ning&#8217;s CEO warrants her resignation, imho.</p>
<p>The unfortunately loser in this &#8220;tug of war&#8221; are the end users. What a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave I</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445125</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also posted a blog about this as well...feedback welcome

http://nichesocials.com/ning-network-creators-go-crazy-after-losing-widget-laboratory-apps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also posted a blog about this as well&#8230;feedback welcome</p>
<p><a href="http://nichesocials.com/ning-network-creators-go-crazy-after-losing-widget-laboratory-apps" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://nichesocials.com/ning-network-creators-go-crazy-after-losing-widget-laboratory-apps'>http://nichesoc...laboratory-apps</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave I</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445115</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://nichesocials.com/ning-and-third-party-widgets&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nichesocials.com/ning-and-third-party-widgets&lt;/a&gt;

If anyone wants to discuss this in an area separate from Ning and WL without any issues around stuff getting closed down, comments removed, etc.

Feel free to sign up and post ... hopefully they will keep this link. Then we can keep the stuff here on NC related to Ning moving forward, and still be a place to vent, discuss issues with other third party widget providers, etc.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://nichesocials.com/ning-and-third-party-widgets" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://nichesocials.com/ning-and-third-party-widgets'>http://nichesoc...d-party-widgets</a></p>
<p>If anyone wants to discuss this in an area separate from Ning and WL without any issues around stuff getting closed down, comments removed, etc.</p>
<p>Feel free to sign up and post &#8230; hopefully they will keep this link. Then we can keep the stuff here on NC related to Ning moving forward, and still be a place to vent, discuss issues with other third party widget providers, etc.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: geesh@aol.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/23/widgetlaboratory-strikes-back-at-ning-where-it-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-2445105</link>
		<dc:creator>geesh@aol.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break. Get over yourself.</description>
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