Comments on: Iterasi Evolves Into A Must Have Research Tool

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[...] did PWC built it for a lot of money, if storage, hardware, and bandwidth are so cheap? And why does Michael Arrington call Iterasi’s service “the must-have research tool”? In the face of these questions I don’t quite understand the barrier of $99 per month. What [...]

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By: Websites archivieren mit Iterasi | Webzeugkoffer Blog

Websites archivieren mit Iterasi | Webzeugkoffer Blog — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:24:34 +0000

[...] Iterasi befindet sich noch in der Betaphase und ist kostenlos. Der Account ist schnell angelegt. Eine Mailadresse und Passwort genügen. Das Tool soll auch später kostenlos erhältlich sein. Wobei aber denkbar ist, das es eine Premiumversion geben wird, die dann gegen eine Gebühr mehr Funktionalität und Features zur Verfügung stellen könnte. So zumindest konnte man es einer Meldung bei TechCrunch entnehmen. Iterasi is completely free, although founder Pete Grillo says they may add a premium option down the road. TechCrunch: Iterasi Evolves Into A Must Have Research Tool [...]

By: Pete Grillo

Pete Grillo — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:05:23 +0000

I don’t see this as an either/or decision. Everyone searches all the time and that won’t change for the forseeable future. iterasi and other tools in this bookmarking world allow you to save something once you’ve found it. So the two complement each other.

By: KillerApp

KillerApp — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:59:32 +0000

What a fantastic implementation. But in my experience, people won’t necessarily save pages. They’ll just use search.

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Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:00:45 +0000

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By: petegrillo

petegrillo — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:35:35 +0000

re: copyright, see response above to @Markus.

re: beta, no firm date in mind. The term seems to mean ‘developers can test new ideas and see how well users like them’. In this sense, I hope to be in beta forever. Seriously, we put as much testing in our beta releases as we would in any release. (And I hope this last comment doesn’t come back to haunt me…)

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Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:40:55 +0000

[...] service Iterasi launches Scheduler and a version for Macs — The new tool allows users to automatically save sites on a scheduled basis, as often as daily. Iterasi is useful because because it allows you to save all the information on a page, including [...]

By: Iterasi İle Web Sayfalarını Kaydedin : Doctus Haber

Iterasi İle Web Sayfalarını Kaydedin : Doctus Haber — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:00:52 +0000

[...] Üyelik aktivasyonundan sonra tarayıcı araç çubuğuna eklenen butonlar sayesinde beğendiğiniz dinamik sayfaları hesabınıza kaydedebilirsiniz. Bu şekilde sürekli güncellenen web sitelerini arşivlemeniz [...]

By: John

John — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:36:06 +0000

Will check it out. Are there any copyright issues? When will Iterasi be out of beta?

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:22:14 +0000

I use Evernote (read about it here many moons back). It does not save the full fidelity of a page but gets the job done. Of course, it does not do the “wayback machine” job.

I am going to save this article to Evernote. May be I’ll get around to checking this service out.

Sean

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:38:48 +0000

Personally, I see a lot of potential for this service. I love the ability to search text across my bookmarks, and knowing that exactly what I saved will be there.

Also, for research, I remember planning my wedding with my wife, and sharing content/ideas/information was a real pain. However, if we had this tool, we could share exactly what we wanted the other to see, knowing they’ll get what we bookmarked. Then you can also create a tag set that makes it very easy to share all content around a certain topic.

Obviously, Delicious can do some of this, but to quickly find the hotel that mentioned “free dolphin swim” amongst 8 or 9 bookmarked hotels just creates a lot of value to me.

By: Torley Lives

Torley Lives — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:24:42 +0000

I’m curious as to how this is more compelling than, say, the Firefox Scrapbook add-on. Seems like one of the strengths is that you can share the pages online with others, but what else is there?

By: dave

dave — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:05:55 +0000

uh, this is some seriously OLD shit – furl was doing this nearly 4 years ago…clearly, unlike me, you do not do any research for a living…

By: silicon valley dropout

silicon valley dropout — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:57:31 +0000

the name sucks

By: Ryan Waggoner

Ryan Waggoner — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:05:05 +0000

I agree with Peldi: can’t see much use for this for vast majority of folks, especially for tracking the changes on a site over time, especially since it sounds like you’d have to set it up from the time you wanted to track. How many real use cases are there for someone who wants to see how a site changes over time, goes and sets up a process to do so, and actually tracks that info over time? Seems like it would be more useful if the captured historical data was already out there somehow.

And as to bookmarks dying, I would say that less than 5% of my bookmarks point to 404 pages, and those that do can usually be found again with a quick Google search. I would also say that I probably only go back and look at 5% of my bookmarks, and that 5% rarely overlaps.

Sweet tech, but not sure there’s a real user pain point to apply it to. Hope I’m wrong

By: Thanks for nothing

Thanks for nothing — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:57:59 +0000

Thanks for the spam, asshole.

By: Nice app

Nice app — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:49:36 +0000

Can the saved pages be stored locally? With google gears maybe?

How is this different from Diigo?

Someone want to compare the two? Come on you attention whoring bloggers, do it!

By: Hussong

Hussong — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:47:11 +0000

Interesting tool! For research, I can highly recommend Zotero (zotero.org). The free Plug-In for Firefox (all platforms) handles web sites as well as books, papers and all kinds of sources. Has a powerful citation manager with search, tagging and linking of sources. No scheduler though,

By: Markus

Markus — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:23:44 +0000

Being able to search the text of all your pages is also a killer feature. Delicious doesn’t do that.

Another use case that I’m aware of is with regards to images. Getty, Reuters and others offer licensing rates based on how long you are going to use an image on your site. For many sites (especially news sites), they typically only license images for a month or so. While this makes sense from a business perspective it also makes bookmarks of these images useless. Return to the page after a month and the image and caption are simply gone.

Many of the most compelling ‘current events’ images you will ever see are distributed across the web in this fashion.

On that note, I guess that’s also a good example of a group of companies that do aggressively pursue any unauthorized ’sharing’ of their content.

By: Save Web Pages for Later with Iterasi : Codswallop

Save Web Pages for Later with Iterasi : Codswallop — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:18:28 +0000

[...] Of course I tried (again) to contact the publisher, but I was worried he will change the information on the site. I was going to take a screenshot but then I saw on TechCrunch that Iterasi was now available for Macs. [...]

By: Peldi GuilizzonI

Peldi GuilizzonI — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:56:41 +0000

Ok, fair enough. I haven’t experienced this pain much before, but I can see how some people might have. I suggest you add those same examples to your site’s home page, and “Bookmarks have their place, but they don’t age well.” sounds like a good tag-line for your service.

Peldi

By: pete grillo

pete grillo — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:52:48 +0000

Yes, some pages can be slow. We do a lot of digging to gather up the page prior to the user loading another. So we can’t run completely in the background. Some browsers internally are very single threaded. But we have some ideas and we’re working on making it faster.

By: pete grillo

pete grillo — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:43:26 +0000

Web pages do, in fact, disappear. Note the recent turmoil at the Olympics where the Website telling the history, and therefore the age, of a potentially underage Chinese gymnast was ‘misplaced’. But closer to home, just going thru one’s own browser bookmarks, how many of them point to an error 404 (or the landing page equivalent) or point to something, but not what it did when the bookmark was made? Over time, bookmarks age and they age poorly. They are dependant on the policies of each Website and rarely are any two alike. So certainly a link is good for a while, but how long? It varies widely. Its election year, if you want to track a politician’s message over time, I assure you their site will not lay out their ‘evolving’ message over time for all to see the inconsistencies. If you want to save a special retail or travel offer, you better print it as the site just may have a new one tomorrow. etc, etc.
My point is that the Web is very dynamic. Bookmarks have their place, but they don’t age well.

By: Peldi GuilizzonI

Peldi GuilizzonI — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:02:06 +0000

Apologies for being dumb, but I don’t get it. Why should I use iterasi? Why is this a “must have research tool”? Neither this post nor the iterasi site tell me a single benefit I would gain from using the service, both are 100% focused on the features. This makes it come across as a solution looking for a problem. Why is this better than delicious? Websites don’t just disappear overnight. Is it good for sites in which the same URL contains very different content all the time? Like the homepage of amazon.com or something? Why would I want to bookmark that page instead of the sub-page for the product I am interested in?

In short, please sell me on benefits, not features.