Comments on: No, Tim. We’re Not As Bad As The New York Times http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:09:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Dotless Domain » Blog Archive » dotlessdomain.com - Black Hole SEO http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-3/#comment-2529158 Dotless Domain » Blog Archive » dotlessdomain.com - Black Hole SEO Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:31:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2529158 [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google, Inc. (Goog) for a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...] [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google, Inc. (Goog) for a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...]

]]> By: make cash money » Blog Archive » Black Hole SEO http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-3/#comment-2490369 make cash money » Blog Archive » Black Hole SEO Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:55:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2490369 [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google 4 a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...] [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google 4 a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...]

]]> By: Black Hole SEO :: Antilogic Media http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-3/#comment-2470416 Black Hole SEO :: Antilogic Media Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:24:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2470416 [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google for a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...] [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google for a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...]

]]> By: Los agujeros negros de internet http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2470292 Los agujeros negros de internet Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:57:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2470292 [...] de contenido y de confianza. Ésto repercute en la propia web que pierde popularidad. Algún ejemplo es TechCrunch, que ha tenido críticas de sus usuarios y han abierto algo más la ventana, ya que estaban [...] [...] de contenido y de confianza. Ésto repercute en la propia web que pierde popularidad. Algún ejemplo es TechCrunch, que ha tenido críticas de sus usuarios y han abierto algo más la ventana, ya que estaban [...]

]]> By: Black Hole SEO | ThePagerank.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2468826 Black Hole SEO | ThePagerank.com Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:54:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2468826 [...] The mi­n­­i­-me bl­ac­k hol­e, as prac­ti­c­ed by Tec­hC­ru­n­­c­h. Rather than­­ di­rec­ti­n­­g you­ to a si­te men­­ti­on­­ed i­n­­ an­­ arti­c­l­e, Tec­hC­ru­n­­c­h w­ou­l­d di­rec­t you­ to thei­r ow­n­­ C­ru­n­­c­hBase en­­try i­n­­stead, thereby keepi­n­­g you­ on­­-si­te l­on­­ger, an­­d passi­n­­g l­i­n­­k au­thori­ty to thei­r ow­n­­ w­eb pages. As a resu­l­t, a searc­h on­­ Googl­e f­or a si­tes’ n­­ame may w­el­l­ bri­n­­g u­p the C­ru­n­­c­hBase en­­try. To be f­ai­r, Tec­hC­ru­n­­c­h does al­so l­i­n­­k ou­t, an­­d there i­s an­­ expl­an­­ati­on­­ as to w­h­y T­ech­Crun­ch­ aren­’t­ as b­ad­ as t&... [...] [...] The mi­n­­i­-me bl­ac­k hol­e, as prac­ti­c­ed by Tec­hC­ru­n­­c­h. Rather than­­ di­rec­ti­n­­g you­ to a si­te men­­ti­on­­ed i­n­­ an­­ arti­c­l­e, Tec­hC­ru­n­­c­h w­ou­l­d di­rec­t you­ to thei­r ow­n­­ C­ru­n­­c­hBase en­­try i­n­­stead, thereby keepi­n­­g you­ on­­-si­te l­on­­ger, an­­d passi­n­­g l­i­n­­k au­thori­ty to thei­r ow­n­­ w­eb pages. As a resu­l­t, a searc­h on­­ Googl­e f­or a si­tes’ n­­ame may w­el­l­ bri­n­­g u­p the C­ru­n­­c­hBase en­­try. To be f­ai­r, Tec­hC­ru­n­­c­h does al­so l­i­n­­k ou­t, an­­d there i­s an­­ expl­an­­ati­on­­ as to w­h­y T­ech­Crun­ch­ aren­’t­ as b­ad­ as t&… [...]

]]> By: Black Hole SEO | SEO Coalition http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2467922 Black Hole SEO | SEO Coalition Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:09:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2467922 [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google for a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...] [...] The mini-me black hole, as practiced by TechCrunch. Rather than directing you to a site mentioned in an article, TechCrunch would direct you to their own CrunchBase entry instead, thereby keeping you on-site longer, and passing link authority to their own web pages. As a result, a search on Google for a sites’ name may well bring up the CrunchBase entry. To be fair, TechCrunch does also link out, and there is an explanation as to why TechCrunch aren’t as bad as the New York Times here. [...]

]]> By: Gab Goldenberg - Internal Link Building WP Plugin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2466899 Gab Goldenberg - Internal Link Building WP Plugin Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:35:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2466899 Erick, I noticed your comment about not linking because you're pressed for time. I've got a Wordpress plugin that could help you guys out. You set up a keyword to link to a given destination, and then it always links there when it shows up in a post. Or you can set it to just link the first time, or first X number of times. You can also do this in batches, to save further time, with a unique CSV upload feature that none of the similar plugins have. In the case where you'd like to link to both Crunchbase and the business in question, you can also set things up for one keyword to link to multiple URLs. E.g. have Twitter go to Twitter.com and Crunchbase, and make it link twice in any given post. Then when you write about it, the plugin should link once to Twitter and once to CB. (It's random though, so it may not be 50% in a given post, but will be 50% in the aggregate... haven't tested that. You could also just make "Twitter on Crunchbase" link automatically to the Crunchbase profile. Hope you download it and take it for a spin - it's free! Let me know if you have any questions :). The link is from my username. Erick, I noticed your comment about not linking because you’re pressed for time. I’ve got a Wordpress plugin that could help you guys out. You set up a keyword to link to a given destination, and then it always links there when it shows up in a post. Or you can set it to just link the first time, or first X number of times.

You can also do this in batches, to save further time, with a unique CSV upload feature that none of the similar plugins have.

In the case where you’d like to link to both Crunchbase and the business in question, you can also set things up for one keyword to link to multiple URLs. E.g. have Twitter go to Twitter.com and Crunchbase, and make it link twice in any given post. Then when you write about it, the plugin should link once to Twitter and once to CB. (It’s random though, so it may not be 50% in a given post, but will be 50% in the aggregate… haven’t tested that. You could also just make “Twitter on Crunchbase” link automatically to the Crunchbase profile.

Hope you download it and take it for a spin - it’s free! Let me know if you have any questions :). The link is from my username.

]]> By: Johnnie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2451096 Johnnie Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:37:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2451096 Why doesn't crunchbase help 'little' sites like www.climatechangetriage.net? Johnnie Why doesn’t crunchbase help ‘little’ sites like http://www.climatechangetriage.net?
Johnnie

]]> By: Mike Abraham http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2446115 Mike Abraham Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:51:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2446115 The Times may do a poorer job of linking, but they do a better job of reporting. The Times may do a poorer job of linking, but they do a better job of reporting.

]]> By: phelps http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2444961 phelps Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:15:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2444961 What Tim said is what I wanted to say for a long time. It's so frustrating every time I want to see a new website, what I got is actually your useless database page. Techcrunch is putting on more and more ADs for themselves and their sponsors and fewer real articles worth reading. It's a pity! What Tim said is what I wanted to say for a long time. It’s so frustrating every time I want to see a new website, what I got is actually your useless database page.

Techcrunch is putting on more and more ADs for themselves and their sponsors and fewer real articles worth reading. It’s a pity!

]]> By: Eduardo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2444315 Eduardo Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:16:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2444315 Not convinced. Link less, and at the links, have a explicit word indicating is a link to Crunchbase. I do want to be surprised when I click a link named "FriendFeed" and arrive at Crunchbase. Thank you for your blood good content. Not convinced. Link less, and at the links, have a explicit word indicating is a link to Crunchbase. I do want to be surprised when I click a link named “FriendFeed” and arrive at Crunchbase.

Thank you for your blood good content.

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Vacation over - blogging - end of Aug. ‘08 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2444138 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Vacation over - blogging - end of Aug. ‘08 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:17:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2444138 [...] I actually really like the way TechCrunch links to it’s own CruchBase. And they provide APIs to it - as well. I think that Tim OP’Reilly is pissed cause TechCrunch ain’t using wikipedia - which is part of O’Reilly’s insider’s mafia. [...] [...] I actually really like the way TechCrunch links to it’s own CruchBase. And they provide APIs to it - as well. I think that Tim OP’Reilly is pissed cause TechCrunch ain’t using wikipedia - which is part of O’Reilly’s insider’s mafia. [...]

]]> By: Luke Noel-Storr http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2444087 Luke Noel-Storr Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:32:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2444087 I think a logo is the *last* thing that you should link to CrunchBase. I'm always clicking on logos on your site expecting them to take me to their website, and find it absolutely infuriating when they dump me in CrunchBase. I think a logo is the *last* thing that you should link to CrunchBase. I’m always clicking on logos on your site expecting them to take me to their website, and find it absolutely infuriating when they dump me in CrunchBase.

]]> By: shhexycorin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2442738 shhexycorin Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:39:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2442738 You're definitely horrid, EVIL people! You’re definitely horrid, EVIL people!

]]> By: Mark http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2442276 Mark Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:41:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2442276 You are as bad as the NYT. Stop trying to make Crunchbase happen. It's gash. You are as bad as the NYT. Stop trying to make Crunchbase happen. It’s gash.

]]> By: Natalie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2442246 Natalie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:08:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2442246 Upon reading this post, I just had to link to CrunchBase and post about it (despite the added risk of putting my own beta website on the proverbial TechCrunch map when it is not at all ready for such scrutiny). Call me... Tim. Upon reading this post, I just had to link to CrunchBase and post about it (despite the added risk of putting my own beta website on the proverbial TechCrunch map when it is not at all ready for such scrutiny). Call me… Tim.

]]> By: Pandrogas http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-2442111 Pandrogas Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:05:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2442111 Jerry, It would be great if everyone did that, but from many of the comments on this post, it's pretty evident that many people don't read links, they just click. But don't worry, these are the same people who keep anti-virus / anti-malware companies in business. ;) Jerry,

It would be great if everyone did that, but from many of the comments on this post, it’s pretty evident that many people don’t read links, they just click. But don’t worry, these are the same people who keep anti-virus / anti-malware companies in business. ;)

]]> By: Hunter Walker http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441944 Hunter Walker Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:03:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441944 I don't mind the CB links at all and find it useful. The CB entry always provides a link to the company's site, so I really don't see it as a problem. Really we are splitting hairs here....but that's no surprise. I don’t mind the CB links at all and find it useful. The CB entry always provides a link to the company’s site, so I really don’t see it as a problem. Really we are splitting hairs here….but that’s no surprise.

]]> By: marvin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441913 marvin Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:44:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441913 lol at update: "Tom" O’Reilly lol at update: “Tom” O’Reilly

]]> By: Tim http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441779 Tim Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:51:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441779 It is fairly annoying Mike. It is fairly annoying Mike.

]]> By: Guest User http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441769 Guest User Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:20:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441769 I loved this part "founder of O’Reilly Media and a supporter of the free software and open source movements." How many books on from O’Reilly Media are free??? lol I loved this part
“founder of O’Reilly Media and a supporter of the free software and open source movements.”

How many books on from O’Reilly Media are free???

lol

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441731 Dave Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:59:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441731 Sounds to me like Tim just wanted a bit of Techcrunch link juice for himself. What a whiny little bitch. Seriously. Rather than write fluff that helps no one except his ego, perhaps he could spend time writing proper stories that have some Merit... oh wait, sorry, forgot where he was writing for. Seriously though, comparing crunch base to NYT search results is like comparing wikipedia to my on browser search bar. You can't compare them. Crunchbase is a great resource, passes the tests, and is not any of the things he seems to think it is. Perhaps he just wishes he was in there with some fresh start up? It's rare I agree 100% with a post here on TC, but in this instance, go F yourself Tim! Sounds to me like Tim just wanted a bit of Techcrunch link juice for himself. What a whiny little bitch. Seriously. Rather than write fluff that helps no one except his ego, perhaps he could spend time writing proper stories that have some Merit… oh wait, sorry, forgot where he was writing for.

Seriously though, comparing crunch base to NYT search results is like comparing wikipedia to my on browser search bar. You can’t compare them. Crunchbase is a great resource, passes the tests, and is not any of the things he seems to think it is. Perhaps he just wishes he was in there with some fresh start up?

It’s rare I agree 100% with a post here on TC, but in this instance, go F yourself Tim!

]]> By: andrzej http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441718 andrzej Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:27:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441718 "But that is because we think it’s a really good resource, a place where readers can get up to speed on a company at a glance. " hahaha yeah right :-D - its a basic SEO that the more external links you give away, the worse for your site - so its better to self-link and hope to get links from others. I think MAJORITY of your users would like to see direct links on your blog. If you WANT to put links to crunchbase there - just put it AS WELL (but not only) - and clearly mark it as link 'to crunchbase' <-- that would fair. I totally agree with Tim - sorry, self linking is a bad thing “But that is because we think it’s a really good resource, a place where readers can get up to speed on a company at a glance. ”

hahaha yeah right :-D - its a basic SEO that the more external links you give away, the worse for your site - so its better to self-link and hope to get links from others.

I think MAJORITY of your users would like to see direct links on your blog. If you WANT to put links to crunchbase there - just put it AS WELL (but not only) - and clearly mark it as link ‘to crunchbase’ <– that would fair.

I totally agree with Tim - sorry, self linking is a bad thing

]]> By: tomsoft http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441705 tomsoft Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:55:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441705 Agree with most of the comments: keep the crunchbase link at the bottom, and direct link to company in the body of the post, and this would be great! Agree with most of the comments: keep the crunchbase link at the bottom, and direct link to company in the body of the post, and this would be great!

]]> By: Johzn http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/19/no-tim-were-not-as-bad-as-the-new-york-times/comment-page-2/#comment-2441693 Johzn Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:44:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21215#comment-2441693 Totally agree .. linking to Crunchbase instead of products themselves is just annoying .. Totally agree .. linking to Crunchbase instead of products themselves is just annoying ..

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