Comments on: Google Uses YouTube To Try To Rally Public Support For WiFi 2.0 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:12:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Comment on Google Uses bYouTube/b To Try To Rally Public Support For b…/b http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2484080 Comment on Google Uses bYouTube/b To Try To Rally Public Support For b…/b Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:03:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2484080 [...] Journalist Goes Missing After Outing Googleâ??s Latest Evil Plan | TekPopuli wrote an interesting post today onComment on Google Uses bYouTube/b To Try To Rally Public Support For b…/bHere’s a quick excerptthe image of the ideal corporate citizen. Other nefarious plans included their recent bid to “Free the Airwaves“, which was later found out to be a sophisticated way for Google to disintermediate the [...] [...] [...] Journalist Goes Missing After Outing Googleâ??s Latest Evil Plan | TekPopuli wrote an interesting post today onComment on Google Uses bYouTube/b To Try To Rally Public Support For b…/bHere’s a quick excerptthe image of the ideal corporate citizen. Other nefarious plans included their recent bid to “Free the Airwaves“, which was later found out to be a sophisticated way for Google to disintermediate the [...] [...]

]]> By: Journalist Goes Missing After Outing Google’s Latest Evil Plan | TekPopuli http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2484030 Journalist Goes Missing After Outing Google’s Latest Evil Plan | TekPopuli Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:05:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2484030 [...] the image of the ideal corporate citizen. Other nefarious plans included their recent bid to “Free the Airwaves“, which was later found out to be a sophisticated way for Google to disintermediate the [...] [...] the image of the ideal corporate citizen. Other nefarious plans included their recent bid to “Free the Airwaves“, which was later found out to be a sophisticated way for Google to disintermediate the [...]

]]> By: Confianza en la nube « Blog de JoseMPelaez http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2443288 Confianza en la nube « Blog de JoseMPelaez Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:27:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2443288 [...] lo creo. Ni Google ni Amazon gastan mucho dinero en campañas de comunicación. Cuando lo hacen, sus objetivos suelen ser otros. Prefieren lanzar nuevos servicios para que sus clientes los prueben y, si les gustan, los [...] [...] lo creo. Ni Google ni Amazon gastan mucho dinero en campañas de comunicación. Cuando lo hacen, sus objetivos suelen ser otros. Prefieren lanzar nuevos servicios para que sus clientes los prueben y, si les gustan, los [...]

]]> By: How do you submit your webpage to a search engine so that other people can find it? http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440606 How do you submit your webpage to a search engine so that other people can find it? Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:06:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440606 [...] Google Uses YouTube To Try To Rally Public Support For WiFi 2.0 Sphere: Related Content Ask a Question [...] [...] Google Uses YouTube To Try To Rally Public Support For WiFi 2.0 Sphere: Related Content Ask a Question [...]

]]> By: Charbax http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440541 Charbax Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:46:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440541 Youtube could become Google's biggest revenue source in the near future, since Youtube is the worlds biggest source for video on the Internet, and video on the Internet is going to replace traditional TV broadcasting. Youtube could become Google’s biggest revenue source in the near future, since Youtube is the worlds biggest source for video on the Internet, and video on the Internet is going to replace traditional TV broadcasting.

]]> By: SG http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440477 SG Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440477 Availability of the spectrum that will be freed up after Feb 2009 is a great resource for Wireless networking. Call it Wifi or something else, the point is it bring that spectrum to usable data-networking space. I don't understand Google's motivation that clearly since developing the spectrum to be used for something specific is way beyond Google's reach today. Also, it will literally take years to get the spectrum range solidified and ratified within the IEEE for data range usage and then the silicon vendors to develop PHY Asics for those frequencies. Or this would be a big boost for Software Defined Radio vendors to jump in bed with Google to make this work. Sounds like some smart guy in Google's strategic/corp-dev division is thinking about an SDR acquisition in the next six months and then twelve months later have products from Google in that space with SDR's embedded. WOW SG Availability of the spectrum that will be freed up after Feb 2009 is a great resource for Wireless networking. Call it Wifi or something else, the point is it bring that spectrum to usable data-networking space. I don’t understand Google’s motivation that clearly since developing the spectrum to be used for something specific is way beyond Google’s reach today. Also, it will literally take years to get the spectrum range solidified and ratified within the IEEE for data range usage and then the silicon vendors to develop PHY Asics for those frequencies.
Or this would be a big boost for Software Defined Radio vendors to jump in bed with Google to make this work. Sounds like some smart guy in Google’s strategic/corp-dev division is thinking about an SDR acquisition in the next six months and then twelve months later have products from Google in that space with SDR’s embedded.

WOW

SG

]]> By: Hoteles http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440464 Hoteles Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:30:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440464 Looks like Google has its eyes on the airwaves agin! Looks like Google has its eyes on the airwaves agin!

]]> By: oz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440373 oz Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:41:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440373 smart chick smart chick

]]> By: jon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440345 jon Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:48:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440345 Right, this is the premise I was wondering whether anyone takes seriously. Let me clarify what I believe the premise is NOT: If we get more people on the internet, or give existing users more ubiquitous access, we will sell more ads. This on its own does not make sense. What everyone seems to be suggesting is that: If we get more people on the internet, or give existing users more ubiquitous access, we will sell enough ads not only to pay for our infrastructure investments but to also turn a profit. Seriously? Dropping billions on public wifi will pay itself back directly? As for 60% of stock, perhaps a large investor will decide someday to unseat some board members with minority rights. Right, this is the premise I was wondering whether anyone takes seriously.

Let me clarify what I believe the premise is NOT:

If we get more people on the internet, or give existing users more ubiquitous access, we will sell more ads.

This on its own does not make sense. What everyone seems to be suggesting is that:

If we get more people on the internet, or give existing users more ubiquitous access, we will sell enough ads not only to pay for our infrastructure investments but to also turn a profit.

Seriously? Dropping billions on public wifi will pay itself back directly?
As for 60% of stock, perhaps a large investor will decide someday to unseat some board members with minority rights.

]]> By: Search Engine Ranking http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440335 Search Engine Ranking Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:31:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440335 Its a good idea...... and great for the consumer....... etc etc But why is Google all of the sudden the WHITE KNIGHT?? Well.... because if more people have access to the internet from more places, then they will use google more, and lick on their ADS more, and they will make more money. It is just that simple. :) Its a good idea…… and great for the consumer……. etc etc But why is Google all of the sudden the WHITE KNIGHT?? Well…. because if more people have access to the internet from more places, then they will use google more, and lick on their ADS more, and they will make more money. It is just that simple. :)

]]> By: Marcus http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440245 Marcus Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:21:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440245 I'm surprised to hear so much whining about Google's ads ruining everyone's day... because it surely isn't the case for me. Do these ads really bother you that much, or is it the principle of advertising that you have a problem with? When I have a choice about what media I use & consume, the ads I'm subjected to are an afterthought... if I don't like the ad jamming, I go somewhere else. Google benefits when the internet thrives as being free, open, and widespread. Whether or not they make a profit directly off YouTube, the residual good that YouTube has for the internet is residually good for Google. Critically examining the impact of new technologies is of course important, but don't be so quick so demonize an effort with Google's name on it simply because they may also happen to seek profit. I’m surprised to hear so much whining about Google’s ads ruining everyone’s day… because it surely isn’t the case for me. Do these ads really bother you that much, or is it the principle of advertising that you have a problem with? When I have a choice about what media I use & consume, the ads I’m subjected to are an afterthought… if I don’t like the ad jamming, I go somewhere else.

Google benefits when the internet thrives as being free, open, and widespread. Whether or not they make a profit directly off YouTube, the residual good that YouTube has for the internet is residually good for Google.

Critically examining the impact of new technologies is of course important, but don’t be so quick so demonize an effort with Google’s name on it simply because they may also happen to seek profit.

]]> By: :: RADIOGLUE :: Video, Print and Web Design for the Radio Industry http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440177 :: RADIOGLUE :: Video, Print and Web Design for the Radio Industry Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:12:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440177 [...] The fate of an important chunk of wireless spectrum in the U.S. is being decided by the FCC, and Google wants to rally public support for turning this spectrum over to unlicensed uses, just like we do today with WiFi. [MORE] [...] [...] The fate of an important chunk of wireless spectrum in the U.S. is being decided by the FCC, and Google wants to rally public support for turning this spectrum over to unlicensed uses, just like we do today with WiFi. [MORE] [...]

]]> By: What a Joke http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440157 What a Joke Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:53:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440157 jon, Google has figured out that online growth is slowing and they are looking for new places to stick ads. They are making a big push into wireless so they can bombard you with more advertising. The Android phone will be jammed with ads. ("This call brought to you by Starbucks"...."You'll only steps away from a McDonalds".) All of their campaigns are cleverly disguised pushes for more places to track you and push ads to you. But all of you Tech Geeks are so taken with Google and their technology that you can't see through their plans. jon,

Google has figured out that online growth is slowing and they are looking for new places to stick ads.

They are making a big push into wireless so they can bombard you with more advertising.

The Android phone will be jammed with ads. (”This call brought to you by Starbucks”….”You’ll only steps away from a McDonalds”.)

All of their campaigns are cleverly disguised pushes for more places to track you and push ads to you. But all of you Tech Geeks are so taken with Google and their technology that you can’t see through their plans.

]]> By: Jamie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440155 Jamie Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:51:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440155 I would guess the biggest user of wireless mic's across the country is churches. This would be a much bigger issue than football games. Although both have religious commitments. I would guess the biggest user of wireless mic’s across the country is churches. This would be a much bigger issue than football games. Although both have religious commitments.

]]> By: Ten Cent Jackson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440124 Ten Cent Jackson Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:25:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440124 Ludwig Ederle: No, it's not, because Europe sucks. I doubt that Europe even has Internet access. It was invented in America. USA #1 USA #1 Ludwig Ederle: No, it’s not, because Europe sucks. I doubt that Europe even has Internet access. It was invented in America.

USA #1 USA #1

]]> By: » White Spaces = More Spectrum = Good Idea Sidecut Reports http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440114 » White Spaces = More Spectrum = Good Idea Sidecut Reports Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:13:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440114 [...] happen the way it did. And sure, Google’s Free the Airwaves idea might produce a lot more silly home-cooked video, but if it ultimately opens up another broadband pipe in this country of duopoly providers, [...] [...] happen the way it did. And sure, Google’s Free the Airwaves idea might produce a lot more silly home-cooked video, but if it ultimately opens up another broadband pipe in this country of duopoly providers, [...]

]]> By: mtairhead http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440096 mtairhead Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:58:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440096 Jon, You hardly need to worry about shareholder rebellion if you own 60% of the company, no? Jon,

You hardly need to worry about shareholder rebellion if you own 60% of the company, no?

]]> By: jon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440072 jon Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:34:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440072 Am I the only one who is baffled by Google's infinite spending on this and other activities unrelated to their revenue--err... profit? Does anyone take their argument about expanding the internet is expanding profit seriously? I feel like I'm missing something. How does spending billions regularly on items which are far from break-even (you-cough-tube) not cause a shareholder rebellion? Is the PR really worth it? Am I the only one who is baffled by Google’s infinite spending on this and other activities unrelated to their revenue–err… profit?

Does anyone take their argument about expanding the internet is expanding profit seriously? I feel like I’m missing something. How does spending billions regularly on items which are far from break-even (you-cough-tube) not cause a shareholder rebellion? Is the PR really worth it?

]]> By: Gubatron http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440052 Gubatron Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:03:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440052 I've found that basically, the spectrum would allow for Gigabit bitrates, and pretty much ubiquitous access. Google has offered to keep a geo-location database of what frequencies cannot be used so that the interference problem is gone. Here's a great article http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20482/?a=f I’ve found that basically, the spectrum would allow for Gigabit bitrates, and pretty much ubiquitous access. Google has offered to keep a geo-location database of what frequencies cannot be used so that the interference problem is gone.

Here’s a great article
http://www.technologyreview.co.....20482/?a=f

]]> By: Gubatron http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440048 Gubatron Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:57:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440048 Does anybody have any technical info about IP/VHF. It's certain that line of sight is not as big of an issue as with WiFI or with other very directional tecnologies and this would be perfect for creating networks in cities, where the range of the signal, pretty much depends on the height of the antenna I guess the VHF spectrum for US TV is currently ranging from 55Mhz up to 88Mhz, does any one know how to calculate what the maximum bitrates would be if we used this lower frequencies, and how much power (electricity) would any member of a IP/VHF network (a regular laptop with a VHF/IP card) need to make a transmission on a city radio (30 miles) Does anybody have any technical info about IP/VHF. It’s certain that line of sight is not as big of an issue as with WiFI or with other very directional tecnologies and this would be perfect for creating networks in cities, where the range of the signal, pretty much depends on the height of the antenna

I guess the VHF spectrum for US TV is currently ranging from 55Mhz up to 88Mhz, does any one know how to calculate what the maximum bitrates would be if we used this lower frequencies, and how much power (electricity) would any member of a IP/VHF network (a regular laptop with a VHF/IP card) need to make a transmission on a city radio (30 miles)

]]> By: Otilia @ Ad Ops Online http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440042 Otilia @ Ad Ops Online Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:49:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440042 What corporations are behind the New America foundation supporting "Free the Airwaves", except for obviously Google? What corporations are behind the New America foundation supporting “Free the Airwaves”, except for obviously Google?

]]> By: Ludwig Ederle http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440039 Ludwig Ederle Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:47:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440039 Hi, this is a interesting approach to get people on its side. Wondering how many people would actually watch this piece... I have another question though. Do you know whether this is an issue in other countries as well (Germany, France, England e.g.) Hi, this is a interesting approach to get people on its side. Wondering how many people would actually watch this piece… I have another question though. Do you know whether this is an issue in other countries as well (Germany, France, England e.g.)

]]> By: David Silverberg http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440034 David Silverberg Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:39:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440034 A YouTube campaign is a smart way to get grassroots momentum, but it would be better if Google approached policy makers and industry leaders to lobby the FCC more effectively. WiFi 2.0 is a fantastic idea and it would be ideal if those "white spaces" were dedicated to something that would improve Internet use on a grand scale. A YouTube campaign is a smart way to get grassroots momentum, but it would be better if Google approached policy makers and industry leaders to lobby the FCC more effectively. WiFi 2.0 is a fantastic idea and it would be ideal if those “white spaces” were dedicated to something that would improve Internet use on a grand scale.

]]> By: Pierre http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440032 Pierre Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:38:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440032 "You can have both your wireless referee mics and your Wifi 2.0 because you can always block the unlicensed use in stadiums and other areas." Would it be the same thing in Canada? I think that it is illegal to block signal here? (At least, it's illegal for movie theater to block cell phone signal in Canada.) Does anyone knows? “You can have both your wireless referee mics and your Wifi 2.0 because you can always block the unlicensed use in stadiums and other areas.”

Would it be the same thing in Canada? I think that it is illegal to block signal here? (At least, it’s illegal for movie theater to block cell phone signal in Canada.)

Does anyone knows?

]]> By: internet video marketing http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/18/google-uses-youtube-to-try-to-rally-public-support-for-wifi-20/comment-page-1/#comment-2440025 internet video marketing Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:30:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=21178#comment-2440025 I think this is great, Wifi 2.0 is great for the greater good of the consumer. No more corporate media strong holds. I think this is great, Wifi 2.0 is great for the greater good of the consumer. No more corporate media strong holds.

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