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		<description>There is a saying that goes like this. Market share today is revenue tommorow. Even though they may not be making money from youtube now, things could change given the fact that video is soon becoming very popular online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a saying that goes like this. Market share today is revenue tommorow. Even though they may not be making money from youtube now, things could change given the fact that video is soon becoming very popular online.</p>
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		<title>By: Tycoons of the Day : Is Google's Search Ad Business Plateauing?</title>
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		<description>[...] rule the world: people actually set expect you to deliver. Over at TechCrunch, Erick Schonfeld has mapped out Google&#039;s revenue growth over the last four quarters, and discovers that growth in the company&#039;s organic revenue (that would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rule the world: people actually set expect you to deliver. Over at TechCrunch, Erick Schonfeld has mapped out Google&#8217;s revenue growth over the last four quarters, and discovers that growth in the company&#8217;s organic revenue (that would [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A factor not mentioned above is how difficult the economy has become for many of us in the US and Europe things are really difficult, customers are stopping advertising spend and cutting back, this must translate into lower Growth for Google, as they are effectively a benchmark of the health of the online economy.

More people are switching over their spend and activity to PPC and SEO, but the total spend is falling.

Google seem to be doing very well under difficult conditions - I can see their growth accelerating again in 18 months or so when conditions are better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A factor not mentioned above is how difficult the economy has become for many of us in the US and Europe things are really difficult, customers are stopping advertising spend and cutting back, this must translate into lower Growth for Google, as they are effectively a benchmark of the health of the online economy.</p>
<p>More people are switching over their spend and activity to PPC and SEO, but the total spend is falling.</p>
<p>Google seem to be doing very well under difficult conditions &#8211; I can see their growth accelerating again in 18 months or so when conditions are better.</p>
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		<title>By: Options Boy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iron Condor on Google Looking Attractive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Options Boy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iron Condor on Google Looking Attractive</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Google&#8217;s growth slowing down it looks like the rapid growth days of Google are over.  Google has been fairly range-bound lately [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anand Sanwal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/09/does-google-have-an-organic-growth-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-2434602</link>
		<dc:creator>Anand Sanwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post and analysis by Citi and glad to see you guys picking up on it.  We&#039;ve benchmarked and analyzed the entire S&amp;P 500 (of which Google is a member) on organic revenue generation and efficiency and our #s reveal a similar story, but the picture still is very positive.

In short, we would agree with Citi&#039;s analysis that the organic revenue as a % of total revenue for Google as well as a % of total revenue growth is declining over the longer period we studied.  As compared to Yahoo (the closest comparable to Google if there is one), you can see however, that Google is destroying their peer from an organic revenue perspective.  

Our analysis goes beyond just organic revenue and looks at the efficiency of generating this organic growth, e.g., how much are companies spending to achieve organic revenue growth.  We call this efficiency ratio the Organic Growth Multiplier (OGM).  The logic behind the OGM is that if one company can spend $1 to get $3 of revenue and another can spend $1 to get $5 of revenue, the latter company is healthier and has more momentum in its business and obviously superior organic revenue generation capabilities.

When we look at the OGM of Google versus Yahoo and versus the larger S&amp;P500 tech financials category, the picture is actually quite pretty for Google.  They&#039;re tops as it relates to OGM which means a dollar of their investment into their core business generates more revenue than the average tech sector company.  They also outshine Yahoo on this count as well.

The indexed OGM for Yahoo and Google over the period from 2003-2007 are 50.9 and 312.84, respectively.  Without getting into the quantitative models that underlie this, the point is that Google&#039;s organic revenue efficiency is far superior to Yahoo.

Lastly, we&#039;ve seen that higher OGM and total shareholder return are positively correlated.  So that that implies is that having the ability to generate organic growth efficiently is a good indicator of shareholder returns.

While the assertion that their organic revenue is declining does remain true, the news is not as dire as I&#039;ve been reading elsewhere from those who&#039;ve picked up on this post.  Yes, if they can turn one of their acquisitions into a money maker, this will obviously supplement some of the organic revenue deceleration that might be evident in their historical core business, but on the whole Google is still a star when it comes to organic revenue generation and efficiency.  The fact that Citi retains its buy rating despite the organic picture is testament to this.

A bit on the methodology.

There are some notable differences from the Citi analysis which despite the similar conclusions do make our analysis more robust.

1.  We&#039;ve looked at a more extensive time period (2003-2007)
2. We strip out market growth for each company.  In essence, if the market is growing at 10% and your company grows at 10%, we don&#039;t give you credit for this.  This is rising tide growth and is not due to management&#039;s actions and investments in the core business.   Organic revenue, therefore, in our models is only the growth we can attribute to management&#039;s prowess (or lack thereof).
3. In our Organic Growth Multiplier, we also look at the efficiency of generating organic revenue by determining how much is spent by each company to achieve its organic revenue.  This gives a truer sense for the efficiency of the company&#039;s organic revenue capabilities.

Thanks for the great post on organic growth - a topic not often discussed.

Regards,
Anand Sanwal
www.brilliont.com
Investile Dysfunction blog
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post and analysis by Citi and glad to see you guys picking up on it.  We&#8217;ve benchmarked and analyzed the entire S&amp;P 500 (of which Google is a member) on organic revenue generation and efficiency and our #s reveal a similar story, but the picture still is very positive.</p>
<p>In short, we would agree with Citi&#8217;s analysis that the organic revenue as a % of total revenue for Google as well as a % of total revenue growth is declining over the longer period we studied.  As compared to Yahoo (the closest comparable to Google if there is one), you can see however, that Google is destroying their peer from an organic revenue perspective.  </p>
<p>Our analysis goes beyond just organic revenue and looks at the efficiency of generating this organic growth, e.g., how much are companies spending to achieve organic revenue growth.  We call this efficiency ratio the Organic Growth Multiplier (OGM).  The logic behind the OGM is that if one company can spend $1 to get $3 of revenue and another can spend $1 to get $5 of revenue, the latter company is healthier and has more momentum in its business and obviously superior organic revenue generation capabilities.</p>
<p>When we look at the OGM of Google versus Yahoo and versus the larger S&amp;P500 tech financials category, the picture is actually quite pretty for Google.  They&#8217;re tops as it relates to OGM which means a dollar of their investment into their core business generates more revenue than the average tech sector company.  They also outshine Yahoo on this count as well.</p>
<p>The indexed OGM for Yahoo and Google over the period from 2003-2007 are 50.9 and 312.84, respectively.  Without getting into the quantitative models that underlie this, the point is that Google&#8217;s organic revenue efficiency is far superior to Yahoo.</p>
<p>Lastly, we&#8217;ve seen that higher OGM and total shareholder return are positively correlated.  So that that implies is that having the ability to generate organic growth efficiently is a good indicator of shareholder returns.</p>
<p>While the assertion that their organic revenue is declining does remain true, the news is not as dire as I&#8217;ve been reading elsewhere from those who&#8217;ve picked up on this post.  Yes, if they can turn one of their acquisitions into a money maker, this will obviously supplement some of the organic revenue deceleration that might be evident in their historical core business, but on the whole Google is still a star when it comes to organic revenue generation and efficiency.  The fact that Citi retains its buy rating despite the organic picture is testament to this.</p>
<p>A bit on the methodology.</p>
<p>There are some notable differences from the Citi analysis which despite the similar conclusions do make our analysis more robust.</p>
<p>1.  We&#8217;ve looked at a more extensive time period (2003-2007)<br />
2. We strip out market growth for each company.  In essence, if the market is growing at 10% and your company grows at 10%, we don&#8217;t give you credit for this.  This is rising tide growth and is not due to management&#8217;s actions and investments in the core business.   Organic revenue, therefore, in our models is only the growth we can attribute to management&#8217;s prowess (or lack thereof).<br />
3. In our Organic Growth Multiplier, we also look at the efficiency of generating organic revenue by determining how much is spent by each company to achieve its organic revenue.  This gives a truer sense for the efficiency of the company&#8217;s organic revenue capabilities.</p>
<p>Thanks for the great post on organic growth &#8211; a topic not often discussed.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Anand Sanwal<br />
<a href="http://www.brilliont.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.brilliont.com'>http://www.brilliont.com</a><br />
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		<title>By: investiledysfunction &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Does Google Have an Organic Growth Problem?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/09/does-google-have-an-organic-growth-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-2434598</link>
		<dc:creator>investiledysfunction &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Does Google Have an Organic Growth Problem?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see on the blog - organic growth.  The entry which has the same title as my post - &#8220;Does Google Have an Organic Growth Problem&#8221; - discusses an analysis by Citi equity research analyst who argues that Google&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Does Google Have An Organic Growth Problem? &#171; Weblibraryjpn&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<description>[...] Does Google Have An Organic Growth Problem? (August 9, 2008 TechCrunch) Google pulled in $5.37 billion in revenues last quarter, and $1.25 billion in net profits (nearly ten times what Yahoo made last quarter). Yet behind the consistently amazing financial performance, a few chinks are beginning to appear in Google’s armor. The biggest one may be the increasing gap between its organic revenue growth and its total revenue growth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does Google Have An Organic Growth Problem? (August 9, 2008 TechCrunch) Google pulled in $5.37 billion in revenues last quarter, and $1.25 billion in net profits (nearly ten times what Yahoo made last quarter). Yet behind the consistently amazing financial performance, a few chinks are beginning to appear in Google’s armor. The biggest one may be the increasing gap between its organic revenue growth and its total revenue growth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA &#171; Daily Marauder</title>
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		<description>[...] one may be the increasing gap between its organic revenue growth and its total revenue growth. (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/09/does-google-have-an-organic-growth-problem [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one may be the increasing gap between its organic revenue growth and its total revenue growth. (<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/09/does-google-have-an-organic-growth-problem" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/09/does-google-have-an-organic-growth-problem'>http://www.tech...-growth-problem</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: devide</title>
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		<dc:creator>devide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Kepler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Kepler</dc:creator>
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		<description>Well, part of the reason YouTube isn&#039;t a business with an extraordinary outlook is because they paid so much for it.  If the price was lower, expectations would be lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, part of the reason YouTube isn&#8217;t a business with an extraordinary outlook is because they paid so much for it.  If the price was lower, expectations would be lower.</p>
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		<title>By: Ad Manager</title>
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		<description>Google is no longer a start-up company. With nearly 20,000 employees, things would be much different. It&#039;s only natural that their growth rate decreases over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is no longer a start-up company. With nearly 20,000 employees, things would be much different. It&#8217;s only natural that their growth rate decreases over time.</p>
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		<title>By: John S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S.</dc:creator>
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		<description>Some ol&#039; man&#039;s advice: 90% of all statistics can be made to say anything… 50% of the time

But Google definitely has some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internetevolution.com/document.asp?doc_id=159196&amp;f_src=flffour&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disappointments, here&#039;s a list of the top-10 disappointments.&lt;/a&gt; It&#039;s 10% longer than the previous one, with 50% more information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some ol&#8217; man&#8217;s advice: 90% of all statistics can be made to say anything… 50% of the time</p>
<p>But Google definitely has some <a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/document.asp?doc_id=159196&amp;f_src=flffour" rel="nofollow">disappointments, here&#8217;s a list of the top-10 disappointments.</a> It&#8217;s 10% longer than the previous one, with 50% more information.</p>
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		<title>By: emediablogger</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess there is still a healthy growth rate as the reiteration of the buy rating suggests. The econnomy might be the related factor. Even opposing to a natural saturation there are areas for natural growth like increasing usage by broadband, the emerging mobile internet and new advertising formats like advertising at gadgets. While researching the latter lately I found that those now may become used at websites, too, instead of using them only at the igoogle startpage. So there is space for further organic growth and even increasing earning by market movements. I am sure they are able to get into related future markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there is still a healthy growth rate as the reiteration of the buy rating suggests. The econnomy might be the related factor. Even opposing to a natural saturation there are areas for natural growth like increasing usage by broadband, the emerging mobile internet and new advertising formats like advertising at gadgets. While researching the latter lately I found that those now may become used at websites, too, instead of using them only at the igoogle startpage. So there is space for further organic growth and even increasing earning by market movements. I am sure they are able to get into related future markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Between the Lines mobile edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Between the Lines mobile edition</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: PhilWil</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhilWil</dc:creator>
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		<description>What your saying is that it will grow and grow and grow. This is assumption is no different thant people who though the housing market will just keep going or the airline business (back in the 60-70&#039;s) can only go up.

If Warren Buffet&#039;s company can have a P/E ratio of 20 with its shares costing 100,000+ a share, why is Google worth it when its P/E Ratio is almost at 30?

P/E Ratio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P/E

Google Stock Info:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=goog


It could go up, but I would still not consider it a buy. If I wanted to buy it right now, at best I would earn 5 times what I earned IF the stock goes to 2500. What is more plausable: stck going to 2500 or tock going down to 250 or only go up to 750? Even if I wanted it to go up to 1000 (and double my investment), I would probably have to wait a while.

That is alot of risk for such a gain. Not many stocks go to 1000+ but many stocks go down after their P/E ratios remain at a high level.

I would rather try to find the next Google for $10 a share and let that go up to $100. I earn more and risk less.


Google is not a buy as far as I am conserned until its P/E goes back down to what Warren Buffet calls a good p/e share price</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What your saying is that it will grow and grow and grow. This is assumption is no different thant people who though the housing market will just keep going or the airline business (back in the 60-70&#8217;s) can only go up.</p>
<p>If Warren Buffet&#8217;s company can have a P/E ratio of 20 with its shares costing 100,000+ a share, why is Google worth it when its P/E Ratio is almost at 30?</p>
<p>P/E Ratio<br />
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<p>Google Stock Info:<br />
<a href="http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=goog" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=goog'>http://moneycen...ote?Symbol=goog</a></p>
<p>It could go up, but I would still not consider it a buy. If I wanted to buy it right now, at best I would earn 5 times what I earned IF the stock goes to 2500. What is more plausable: stck going to 2500 or tock going down to 250 or only go up to 750? Even if I wanted it to go up to 1000 (and double my investment), I would probably have to wait a while.</p>
<p>That is alot of risk for such a gain. Not many stocks go to 1000+ but many stocks go down after their P/E ratios remain at a high level.</p>
<p>I would rather try to find the next Google for $10 a share and let that go up to $100. I earn more and risk less.</p>
<p>Google is not a buy as far as I am conserned until its P/E goes back down to what Warren Buffet calls a good p/e share price</p>
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		<title>By: Roman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Google is reaching a saturation point with their primary revenue stream. This is natural for a company operating at their scale.  However, its a major mistake to count Google out too soon.  They have major investments in a lot of diverse areas and a recession may actually be positive for them in the long run as they&#039;re in a strong cash position - able to not only weather the storm, but acquire on the cheap.

Remember, with Google&#039;s resources, they have the ability to swing for the fences quite often.  It doesn&#039;t matter how many times they strike out. What matters is that they continue to swing and will continue to cash in accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Google is reaching a saturation point with their primary revenue stream. This is natural for a company operating at their scale.  However, its a major mistake to count Google out too soon.  They have major investments in a lot of diverse areas and a recession may actually be positive for them in the long run as they&#8217;re in a strong cash position &#8211; able to not only weather the storm, but acquire on the cheap.</p>
<p>Remember, with Google&#8217;s resources, they have the ability to swing for the fences quite often.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how many times they strike out. What matters is that they continue to swing and will continue to cash in accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael is correct. And its not Search- seems to me at as the Internet gets larger, Google has created the belief that web ads are click based -- that leads to the belief that ALL ads should be measured on response right away. The reality is that brand advertisers have a small % of their budget on response based ads, as that usually occurs when a buyer is ready -- not when they don&#039;t know and not sure what they want. 

Bottom line, at 62% of Internet Revenue, Google has maxed out the direct marketing budgets of most marketeers. Typically these are 20% of advertising and a bulk is spent on brand engagement. If you read any agency white papers they are all talking about engagement. Google provides no engagement and bypasses the agencies so they don&#039;t trust Google. 

If you read the other analyst reports- DoubleClick is helping Google- but only in ad serving. Google has failed in display and in video- a shock as they own YouTube! Too bad Yahoo and AOL are stumbling, as they were good at these, but not anymore. And Microsoft is no focused on catching up with Google in Search (the same mistake Yahoo made) that they ar missing the new game.

Like most analysts, I believe that Google has strategic markets under heavy focus with Tim and Cheryl&#039;s old teams. What&#039;s wrong is that they spent too much on trying to bring Google AdSense for Search to other Media and not enough on Google for non Search on Web. This is their failure. AdSense for Content has failed -- ask any publisher, and AdSense for Search has become a domain and click business more and more. Reminds me of Yahoo in the dot bomb -- with most revenue coming from other dot coms. 

What most analysts believe is that Google and MSN will make their next moves later this year -- just like they did YouTube 2 years ago and DoubleClick/Atlas last year. The holly grail is where the ball will be -- clearly not in search. Looking for the AdSense for Display and Video, a couple of 1-3B deals just like DoubleClick -- but not in Ad Serving, in Media not owned content or social networks. Else bad news for the web and bad news for Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael is correct. And its not Search- seems to me at as the Internet gets larger, Google has created the belief that web ads are click based &#8212; that leads to the belief that ALL ads should be measured on response right away. The reality is that brand advertisers have a small % of their budget on response based ads, as that usually occurs when a buyer is ready &#8212; not when they don&#8217;t know and not sure what they want. </p>
<p>Bottom line, at 62% of Internet Revenue, Google has maxed out the direct marketing budgets of most marketeers. Typically these are 20% of advertising and a bulk is spent on brand engagement. If you read any agency white papers they are all talking about engagement. Google provides no engagement and bypasses the agencies so they don&#8217;t trust Google. </p>
<p>If you read the other analyst reports- DoubleClick is helping Google- but only in ad serving. Google has failed in display and in video- a shock as they own YouTube! Too bad Yahoo and AOL are stumbling, as they were good at these, but not anymore. And Microsoft is no focused on catching up with Google in Search (the same mistake Yahoo made) that they ar missing the new game.</p>
<p>Like most analysts, I believe that Google has strategic markets under heavy focus with Tim and Cheryl&#8217;s old teams. What&#8217;s wrong is that they spent too much on trying to bring Google AdSense for Search to other Media and not enough on Google for non Search on Web. This is their failure. AdSense for Content has failed &#8212; ask any publisher, and AdSense for Search has become a domain and click business more and more. Reminds me of Yahoo in the dot bomb &#8212; with most revenue coming from other dot coms. </p>
<p>What most analysts believe is that Google and MSN will make their next moves later this year &#8212; just like they did YouTube 2 years ago and DoubleClick/Atlas last year. The holly grail is where the ball will be &#8212; clearly not in search. Looking for the AdSense for Display and Video, a couple of 1-3B deals just like DoubleClick &#8212; but not in Ad Serving, in Media not owned content or social networks. Else bad news for the web and bad news for Google.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Googleの実質売上伸び率に翳り？</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Googleの実質売上伸び率に翳り？</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TaT: AOL ist keine 20 Mrd. $ Wert, Google mit Wachstumsproblem?, &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/09/does-google-have-an-organic-growth-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-2433306</link>
		<dc:creator>TaT: AOL ist keine 20 Mrd. $ Wert, Google mit Wachstumsproblem?, &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Does Google Have An Organic Growth Problem? - Das sind Fragen. Google hat im letztem Quartal ein organisches Wachstum von 32 % hingelegt. Umsatz 5,32 Mrd. $. Gewinn 1,25 Mrd. $. Natürlich sinkt die Wachstumsrate, dass passiert bei jedem Wachstumsunternehmen, aber 32 % sind immer noch ordentlich und absolut kein Problem. Soll Google weiterhin mit 50% pro Jahr wachsen? Dann betrüge der Quartalsgewinn 2018 statt 1,25 Mrd. $ immerhin 72 Mrd. $ &#8230;&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does Google Have An Organic Growth Problem? &#8211; Das sind Fragen. Google hat im letztem Quartal ein organisches Wachstum von 32 % hingelegt. Umsatz 5,32 Mrd. $. Gewinn 1,25 Mrd. $. Natürlich sinkt die Wachstumsrate, dass passiert bei jedem Wachstumsunternehmen, aber 32 % sind immer noch ordentlich und absolut kein Problem. Soll Google weiterhin mit 50% pro Jahr wachsen? Dann betrüge der Quartalsgewinn 2018 statt 1,25 Mrd. $ immerhin 72 Mrd. $ &#8230;&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah , its of course that Google facing stiff challenge to increase its revenue with the same growth rate , as previously Google had monopoly over Ads on internet but as in the market many ppl had started using other services due to Google&#039;s non sense policy to ban any account at any point of time, advertisers also checking that their money paying them in terms of return or not .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah , its of course that Google facing stiff challenge to increase its revenue with the same growth rate , as previously Google had monopoly over Ads on internet but as in the market many ppl had started using other services due to Google&#8217;s non sense policy to ban any account at any point of time, advertisers also checking that their money paying them in terms of return or not .</p>
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		<title>By: Mart Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mart Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But most of these comments *are* related to programming - or at least indirectly.

You see, when/if Google goes down, there won&#039;t be anything for PROGRAMMERS to create things that might utilise its very presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But most of these comments *are* related to programming &#8211; or at least indirectly.</p>
<p>You see, when/if Google goes down, there won&#8217;t be anything for PROGRAMMERS to create things that might utilise its very presence.</p>
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