I think user experience is what counts – the jury is in and users all over the world love the iPhone experience. Nokia has been resting on its laurels and there will be a price to pay.

“..Sources close to Nokia say that Symbian is secretly regarded inside the company–even among high level senior executives–as a “piece-of-shit-OS,” explaining that “Finnish people usually have a very coarse language.”

A Symbian developer explains, “Nokia is more or less stuck with Symbian since it doesn’t have the competence nor the time to make a new OS from the ground up. Its only alternative, in practice, is to go Linux, which it is of course experimenting with, but it’s still not an easy path to go. ”

http://www.roug...8AF3BD8B30.html

Do you really thing that the iPhone OS is a “half assed version” of Android ? For real? I think you must be trolling, personally I think Android looks cool and has a good chance of competing with WinMo, Symbian etc.

But iPhone is in another class, they are years ahead of the competition and just like the iPod, competitors are focussing on the current model, by the time they’ve released their 1st and 2nd generation half assed imitations of the iPhone, Apple will have moved on.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t see Apple selling the most devices in this space, I think that eventually Android (or something like it) will have the lion’s share, but Apple will continue to be the most influential and will be the catalyst for change in the mobile space, just like they were (and still are) in the PC space

Why on earth would anybody be so fired up about shit that doesn’t exist yet, has no hardware, nor applications, if he wasn’t either a shill or stupid?

I came to the exact opposite conclusion. I really think Android will be DOA. I haven’t seen an Android app that looks even half as attractive as the iPhone’s ugliest app. The only place I see Android having a shot at “winning” is on free phones. Their software looks worse, and their hardware (unless someone really steps it up) is going to be bulkier and uglier.

Given the success of the Razr and iPhone, I think its fair to say that hardware has historically sold phones. The Apple app store may be changing the balance towards software, and app developers are really producing some beautiful and useful software. Where’s Android to go? The only spot for it, I think, is at the low end. And, if Apple continues to drop prices and expand carriers, well…

“fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me”

They are NOW talking about making it easier to dev for their devices, and only cause they smelled their own demise. I wonder if they will still charge to dev for symbian.

If the hype that was android had not happened, would apple have released their half assed version of it? The app store is a grudging ability.

This is what they mean by, “we r so focused on this so we cant give you cut and paste”… they were nervously trying to copy what the android promised. they did a great job by the way.

But it’s thanks to android… do no evil. For that reason alone we must try really hard to still believe.