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	<title>Comments on: iPhone Tethering Returns To Apple&#8217;s App Store</title>
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		<title>By: Austin Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2647083</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just jailbreak your phone and install PDANet from Cydia, takes all of 5 minutes now.  One click jailbreak.  Too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just jailbreak your phone and install PDANet from Cydia, takes all of 5 minutes now.  One click jailbreak.  Too easy.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Tethering&#8221; coming soon to iPhone &#124; AppCraver</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2452646</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Tethering&#8221; coming soon to iPhone &#124; AppCraver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] connectivity to the desktop. Earlier last month, NetShare from NullRiver launched to provide exactly this functionality, but was shut down by Apple, presumably for TOS violations.      [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] connectivity to the desktop. Earlier last month, NetShare from NullRiver launched to provide exactly this functionality, but was shut down by Apple, presumably for TOS violations.      [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anand</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2435444</link>
		<dc:creator>Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How disappointing!</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Kratz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2431458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Kratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a follow-up.  from the iPhone TOS:

FURTHERMORE, UNLIMITED PLANS (EXCEPT FOR DATACONNECT AND BLACKBERRY TETHERED) CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY APPLICATIONS THAT TETHER THE DEVICE (THROUGH USE OF, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, CONNECTION KITS, OTHER PHONE/PDA-TO-COMPUTER ACCESSORIES, BLUETOOTH® OR ANY OTHER WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY) TO LAPTOPS, PCS, OR OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR ANY PURPOSE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a follow-up.  from the iPhone TOS:</p>
<p>FURTHERMORE, UNLIMITED PLANS (EXCEPT FOR DATACONNECT AND BLACKBERRY TETHERED) CANNOT BE USED FOR ANY APPLICATIONS THAT TETHER THE DEVICE (THROUGH USE OF, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION, CONNECTION KITS, OTHER PHONE/PDA-TO-COMPUTER ACCESSORIES, BLUETOOTH® OR ANY OTHER WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY) TO LAPTOPS, PCS, OR OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR ANY PURPOSE.</p>
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		<title>By: WIRELESS &#171; Daily Marauder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2428952</link>
		<dc:creator>WIRELESS &#171; Daily Marauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (EDGE) and 3G iPhones browse the internet on the go wherever their cellular network has coverage. (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (EDGE) and 3G iPhones browse the internet on the go wherever their cellular network has coverage. (<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store'>http://www.tech...pples-app-store</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Plane B &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tethering for the iPhone that Makes Sense for All</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2427732</link>
		<dc:creator>Plane B &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tethering for the iPhone that Makes Sense for All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] after NetShare appeared in the App Store, it was removed.  It then reappeared briefly only to disappear again shortly thereafter. In all, it was available for no more than a few [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after NetShare appeared in the App Store, it was removed.  It then reappeared briefly only to disappear again shortly thereafter. In all, it was available for no more than a few [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AGuest</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-2/#comment-2427658</link>
		<dc:creator>AGuest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a way to hide your IP Address, then access the iTunes App Store for another country (say UK or France) and then purchase this applicaiton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way to hide your IP Address, then access the iTunes App Store for another country (say UK or France) and then purchase this applicaiton?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave H</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 08:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post packetwerks.

It seems in the UK we were screwed for years with high broadband prices etc, but it seems AT&amp;T are screwing the US charging $30 just for tethering!?   

In the UK the likes of T-mobile have unlimited web and walk for £7 odd, even the pricier O2 are going similar things now.    If they tried to charge extra for tethering I&#039;m sure people would jump ship.

As packetwerks pointed out how could they actually check it was tethered / direct from the iphone.   The obvious thing would be the useragent of the browser but that can be spoofed easily enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post packetwerks.</p>
<p>It seems in the UK we were screwed for years with high broadband prices etc, but it seems AT&amp;T are screwing the US charging $30 just for tethering!?   </p>
<p>In the UK the likes of T-mobile have unlimited web and walk for £7 odd, even the pricier O2 are going similar things now.    If they tried to charge extra for tethering I&#8217;m sure people would jump ship.</p>
<p>As packetwerks pointed out how could they actually check it was tethered / direct from the iphone.   The obvious thing would be the useragent of the browser but that can be spoofed easily enough</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Kratz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427426</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Kratz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one point I had an LG UMTS phone which I used, mistakenly, tethered to my laptop.   The dumbasses at the AT&amp;T store told me it was OK (I had the unlimited data plan...for the *phone*).  My next bill was hundreds of dollars due to using my computer with the phone.
Any use of your computer through the phone will be considered tethering whether its by wifi, bluetooth (which is what I used with the LG phone), or a cable. If you have any question then don&#039;t use the app and your computer through the phone.  You&#039;ll end up paying a hell of a lot more than $10.

To Anders Fredriksson: your kidding right?  It&#039;s AT&amp;T&#039;s network.  It&#039;s always their business.  You&#039;re paying for the privilege to use it and you have to play by their rules....which doesn&#039;t include tethering if you&#039;re not paying extra for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one point I had an LG UMTS phone which I used, mistakenly, tethered to my laptop.   The dumbasses at the AT&amp;T store told me it was OK (I had the unlimited data plan&#8230;for the *phone*).  My next bill was hundreds of dollars due to using my computer with the phone.<br />
Any use of your computer through the phone will be considered tethering whether its by wifi, bluetooth (which is what I used with the LG phone), or a cable. If you have any question then don&#8217;t use the app and your computer through the phone.  You&#8217;ll end up paying a hell of a lot more than $10.</p>
<p>To Anders Fredriksson: your kidding right?  It&#8217;s AT&amp;T&#8217;s network.  It&#8217;s always their business.  You&#8217;re paying for the privilege to use it and you have to play by their rules&#8230;.which doesn&#8217;t include tethering if you&#8217;re not paying extra for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427379</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my iPhone yesterday afternoon at 4:00 p.m. PDT.  It was gone by the time I got home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my iPhone yesterday afternoon at 4:00 p.m. PDT.  It was gone by the time I got home.</p>
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		<title>By: bob cobb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427196</link>
		<dc:creator>bob cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every instruction for this out there is for macs, how about one for windows? Or how about someone comes up with an app like PDANET for windows mobile where you have a program on your computer and it basically tethers you with one click. There no reason you should have to do all of these steps for something so simple. I dont really care of its in the app store, or for jailbroken phones either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every instruction for this out there is for macs, how about one for windows? Or how about someone comes up with an app like PDANET for windows mobile where you have a program on your computer and it basically tethers you with one click. There no reason you should have to do all of these steps for something so simple. I dont really care of its in the app store, or for jailbroken phones either</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427176</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately it is gone yet again.  Apple is bumbling this.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427173</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m narked, this would be really useful right now as I just moved home and there&#039;s no internet there yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m narked, this would be really useful right now as I just moved home and there&#8217;s no internet there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427061</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it price higher than other  apps, if it is under 1$, I think i will have a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it price higher than other  apps, if it is under 1$, I think i will have a try.</p>
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		<title>By: stephenkelly</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427041</link>
		<dc:creator>stephenkelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doesn&#039;t work from australia</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427034</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not available in the Belgian store is it gone everywhere?</description>
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		<title>By: Anders Fredriksson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2427029</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders Fredriksson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so stupid! How could it possibly be any of AT&amp;T&#039;s business what device I&#039;m using to use my expensively already paid for connection?

Amazingly stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so stupid! How could it possibly be any of AT&amp;T&#8217;s business what device I&#8217;m using to use my expensively already paid for connection?</p>
<p>Amazingly stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2426880</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sheesh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sheesh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2426878</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It got pulled again.. what the crap?</description>
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		<title>By: packetwerks</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2426860</link>
		<dc:creator>packetwerks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

So a few things that no one is understanding:

1.  This is a HTTP SOCKS proxy.  That means that it will NOT forward the following protocols:

* DNS
* VPN traffic
* IRC
* SMTP/IMAP/POP3
* and so on...

I use NetShare and jailbroken apps to &quot;tether&quot; my laptop.  I use &quot;tether&quot; loosely.  It works great with Adium, Firefox, Twitter apps, and pretty much any app that uses HTTP AND (this is key) doesn&#039;t rely on DNS resolution to resolve names.  For example, in Firefox you need to edit about:config so firefox dumps DNS resolution off to the proxy, rather than your laptop&#039;s defined DNS server(s).  There are instructions for doing this out there.  Use a well-known search engine to find them.

2.  I am going to go out on a limb and say that AT&amp;T has no easy way of telling if you are tethered.  Here is why:  It&#039;s all IP traffic.  How does AT&amp;T know if the request came from your laptop or from your iPhone?  They would have to do deep packet inspection, see that you are using a Mozilla User-Agent, etc.  Since the packets are originating from your iPhone&#039;s IP stack, even traditional methods to passively identify the device generating the traffic (e.g. TTLs) won&#039;t work.  

The easiest way to see that someone is tethered would be if they saw a ton of bittorrent, ssh, etc. traffic.  Even if I moved 1GB of HTTP in a day, who&#039;s to say that I wasn&#039;t just using Pandora, Youtube, etc.  I would make a wild ass guess and say that 95% of iPhone user&#039;s traffic is port 80/443.  

3.  I have no legal experience and am not a lawyer.  That said, I don&#039;t think that using this app is against the letter of AT&amp;T&#039;s TOS.  When I use this app, I am not tethering my laptop to the handset.  This app is a PROXY server not a routed NAT application.  The IP stack that is connected to AT&amp;T&#039;s network is still the iPhone&#039;s.  When I use an AT&amp;T aircard or tether my old crappy 8525 on my laptop, that is different as my laptop is DIRECTLY connected to AT&amp;T&#039;s IP network.  The snarky lawyer in me would argue that my laptop is merely asking the locally connected iPhone app to fetch something off the internet for me.  It returns it to the iPhone, processes it in iPhone memory, then passes it to my laptop.  I am just using an Apple-approved iPhone app that just happens to be controlled by my laptop.  I rest my case.

4.  Again having no legal experience, I don&#039;t think that this app is against the spirit of AT&amp;T&#039;s TOS.  Here is why.  AT&amp;T&#039;s network engineering (this is key) folks don&#039;t want laptop users to pull massive amounts of IP traffic over their network.  It is the same issue that home ISPs are facing more or less.  That said, if I visit www.espn.com from my Firefox and from my iPhone&#039;s Safari, what is the difference?  Maybe the total traffic downloaded via Firefox and iPhone Safari is 2MB.  What is the difference?  If I watch the same Youtube video in Firefox or Safari, what is the difference?  The iPhone&#039;s IP traffic &quot;footprint&quot; for HTTP traffic is nearly identical for most users using most HTTP-based applications.

Lest we forget that AT&amp;T is a phone company with investors and employees to pay.  The reason why they don&#039;t want you to use this app is that AT&amp;T sells laptop connect cards that mean $60/month revenue for them.  

5.  If you are really worried about getting caught by AT&amp;T, use a Cisco IPSEC VPN to tunnel all your laptop&#039;s traffic.  The iPhone has a built-in VPN client.  AT&amp;T a.) Won&#039;t be able to see what you are doing, b.) Won&#039;t be able to tell if you are tethered or using the phone&#039;s VPN client.

If I was AT&amp;T I would make a bad-ass tethering app that does true routed NAT and charge users a nice monthly fee.  Business users would eat this up without thinking and I think you&#039;d see a ton of people signing up for unlimited &quot;tether&quot; plans.

6.  Someone out there is going to port slirp (old school PPP hack) which will allow 100% tethering. The hacker community already did this for the last iPhone. What is going to ruin all of this is that the kids are going to fire up Torrents and AT&amp;T will have a cow and start cracking down.  Mark my words, you will see the headline &quot;AT&amp;T Blocks/Throttles Torrents for iPhone users&quot; very soon.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a few things that no one is understanding:</p>
<p>1.  This is a HTTP SOCKS proxy.  That means that it will NOT forward the following protocols:</p>
<p>* DNS<br />
* VPN traffic<br />
* IRC<br />
* SMTP/IMAP/POP3<br />
* and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>I use NetShare and jailbroken apps to &#8220;tether&#8221; my laptop.  I use &#8220;tether&#8221; loosely.  It works great with Adium, Firefox, Twitter apps, and pretty much any app that uses HTTP AND (this is key) doesn&#8217;t rely on DNS resolution to resolve names.  For example, in Firefox you need to edit about:config so firefox dumps DNS resolution off to the proxy, rather than your laptop&#8217;s defined DNS server(s).  There are instructions for doing this out there.  Use a well-known search engine to find them.</p>
<p>2.  I am going to go out on a limb and say that AT&amp;T has no easy way of telling if you are tethered.  Here is why:  It&#8217;s all IP traffic.  How does AT&amp;T know if the request came from your laptop or from your iPhone?  They would have to do deep packet inspection, see that you are using a Mozilla User-Agent, etc.  Since the packets are originating from your iPhone&#8217;s IP stack, even traditional methods to passively identify the device generating the traffic (e.g. TTLs) won&#8217;t work.  </p>
<p>The easiest way to see that someone is tethered would be if they saw a ton of bittorrent, ssh, etc. traffic.  Even if I moved 1GB of HTTP in a day, who&#8217;s to say that I wasn&#8217;t just using Pandora, Youtube, etc.  I would make a wild ass guess and say that 95% of iPhone user&#8217;s traffic is port 80/443.  </p>
<p>3.  I have no legal experience and am not a lawyer.  That said, I don&#8217;t think that using this app is against the letter of AT&amp;T&#8217;s TOS.  When I use this app, I am not tethering my laptop to the handset.  This app is a PROXY server not a routed NAT application.  The IP stack that is connected to AT&amp;T&#8217;s network is still the iPhone&#8217;s.  When I use an AT&amp;T aircard or tether my old crappy 8525 on my laptop, that is different as my laptop is DIRECTLY connected to AT&amp;T&#8217;s IP network.  The snarky lawyer in me would argue that my laptop is merely asking the locally connected iPhone app to fetch something off the internet for me.  It returns it to the iPhone, processes it in iPhone memory, then passes it to my laptop.  I am just using an Apple-approved iPhone app that just happens to be controlled by my laptop.  I rest my case.</p>
<p>4.  Again having no legal experience, I don&#8217;t think that this app is against the spirit of AT&amp;T&#8217;s TOS.  Here is why.  AT&amp;T&#8217;s network engineering (this is key) folks don&#8217;t want laptop users to pull massive amounts of IP traffic over their network.  It is the same issue that home ISPs are facing more or less.  That said, if I visit <a href="http://www.espn.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.espn.com'>http://www.espn.com</a> from my Firefox and from my iPhone&#8217;s Safari, what is the difference?  Maybe the total traffic downloaded via Firefox and iPhone Safari is 2MB.  What is the difference?  If I watch the same Youtube video in Firefox or Safari, what is the difference?  The iPhone&#8217;s IP traffic &#8220;footprint&#8221; for HTTP traffic is nearly identical for most users using most HTTP-based applications.</p>
<p>Lest we forget that AT&amp;T is a phone company with investors and employees to pay.  The reason why they don&#8217;t want you to use this app is that AT&amp;T sells laptop connect cards that mean $60/month revenue for them.  </p>
<p>5.  If you are really worried about getting caught by AT&amp;T, use a Cisco IPSEC VPN to tunnel all your laptop&#8217;s traffic.  The iPhone has a built-in VPN client.  AT&amp;T a.) Won&#8217;t be able to see what you are doing, b.) Won&#8217;t be able to tell if you are tethered or using the phone&#8217;s VPN client.</p>
<p>If I was AT&amp;T I would make a bad-ass tethering app that does true routed NAT and charge users a nice monthly fee.  Business users would eat this up without thinking and I think you&#8217;d see a ton of people signing up for unlimited &#8220;tether&#8221; plans.</p>
<p>6.  Someone out there is going to port slirp (old school PPP hack) which will allow 100% tethering. The hacker community already did this for the last iPhone. What is going to ruin all of this is that the kids are going to fire up Torrents and AT&amp;T will have a cow and start cracking down.  Mark my words, you will see the headline &#8220;AT&amp;T Blocks/Throttles Torrents for iPhone users&#8221; very soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hathaway</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2426852</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hathaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s gone now...  I got to keep on top of these things.</description>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2426784</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this isn&#039;t exactly a well supported method.  It&#039;s more of a hack than anything else...</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we sure that it was Apple that made the decision to pull the application (if only temporarily)? I&#039;m just thinking that perhaps there is a remote possibility that Nullriver pulled it themselves, in order to create the impression that it was controversial and open to being taken down at any moment, so as to get to generate further interest in the product and get people to purchase it sooner than they otherwise would have... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we sure that it was Apple that made the decision to pull the application (if only temporarily)? I&#8217;m just thinking that perhaps there is a remote possibility that Nullriver pulled it themselves, in order to create the impression that it was controversial and open to being taken down at any moment, so as to get to generate further interest in the product and get people to purchase it sooner than they otherwise would have&#8230; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/01/tethering-app-returns-to-apples-app-store/comment-page-1/#comment-2426698</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s referring to the fact that he&#039;s spending money to potentially break his contract with AT&amp;T. Can you get anymore critical, Boberino?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s referring to the fact that he&#8217;s spending money to potentially break his contract with AT&amp;T. Can you get anymore critical, Boberino?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: iDev</title>
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		<dc:creator>iDev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought. Apple better be ready to reimburse whoever buys this now when AT&amp;T throws its weight and forces this app to be disabled (yes it can be done by revoking the distribution certificate).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought. Apple better be ready to reimburse whoever buys this now when AT&amp;T throws its weight and forces this app to be disabled (yes it can be done by revoking the distribution certificate).</p>
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