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	<title>Comments on: Apple Releases Push Notification Services Developer Kit, Background Apps FTW</title>
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		<title>By: Video: iPhone Push Notification In Action With AIM</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2795057</link>
		<dc:creator>Video: iPhone Push Notification In Action With AIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first talked about Push Notification a year ago at WWDC, and said it should be available around September of 2008. When that deadline came and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first talked about Push Notification a year ago at WWDC, and said it should be available around September of 2008. When that deadline came and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone, Snow Leopard e il Push Notification Server perduto &#124; mondo mela.net</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2623049</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone, Snow Leopard e il Push Notification Server perduto &#124; mondo mela.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] è parlato tante volte del famoso Push Notification Services, in codice PNS, che dovrebbe sopperire alle mancanze del multi-tasking su iPhone e iPod touch, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] è parlato tante volte del famoso Push Notification Services, in codice PNS, che dovrebbe sopperire alle mancanze del multi-tasking su iPhone e iPod touch, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch is becoming more and more worthless&#8230; -- Jon&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2622763</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch is becoming more and more worthless&#8230; -- Jon&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in point, their &#8217;story&#8217; today about the Push Services API thats in the new Beta build of iPhone software 2.1. Its a VERY short paragraph that actually say [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in point, their &#8217;story&#8217; today about the Push Services API thats in the new Beta build of iPhone software 2.1. Its a VERY short paragraph that actually say [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2605615</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen! Skype is a life-saver for anyone traveling with a laptop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen! Skype is a life-saver for anyone traveling with a laptop!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2520508</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BEST service available online that no one seems to know about is SKYPE  and SKYPE OUT!

$4.99 for FREE calls to U.S land line AND cell?

Wh are we nor all doing this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BEST service available online that no one seems to know about is SKYPE  and SKYPE OUT!</p>
<p>$4.99 for FREE calls to U.S land line AND cell?</p>
<p>Wh are we nor all doing this?</p>
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		<title>By: GPS Based Social Networking TechCrunch &#171; Manlingchen&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2493605</link>
		<dc:creator>GPS Based Social Networking TechCrunch &#171; Manlingchen&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stop reporting your location when you simply close the application (Apple has yet to release its push notification system that will let these apps constantly report your location in the background). They also vary widely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stop reporting your location when you simply close the application (Apple has yet to release its push notification system that will let these apps constantly report your location in the background). They also vary widely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KurtQian&#8217;s blog - The State of Location-Based Social Networking On The iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2485583</link>
		<dc:creator>KurtQian&#8217;s blog - The State of Location-Based Social Networking On The iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stop reporting your location when you simply close the application (Apple has yet to release its push notification system that will let these apps constantly report your location in the background). They also vary widely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stop reporting your location when you simply close the application (Apple has yet to release its push notification system that will let these apps constantly report your location in the background). They also vary widely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The State of Location-Based Social Networking On The iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2484997</link>
		<dc:creator>The State of Location-Based Social Networking On The iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] stop reporting your location when you simply close the application (Apple has yet to release its push notification system that will let these apps constantly report your location in the background). They also vary widely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stop reporting your location when you simply close the application (Apple has yet to release its push notification system that will let these apps constantly report your location in the background). They also vary widely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Linhares</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425954</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Linhares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHERE ON TF WORLD IS SKYPE FOR THE IPHONE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHERE ON TF WORLD IS SKYPE FOR THE IPHONE?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Linhares</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425950</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Linhares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAISAL FTW!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAISAL FTW!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch is becoming more and more worthless&#8230; &#171; Lumpy&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425923</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch is becoming more and more worthless&#8230; &#171; Lumpy&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in point, their &#8217;story&#8217; today about the Push Services API thats in the new Beta build of iPhone software 2.1. Its a VERY short paragraph that actually say [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in point, their &#8217;story&#8217; today about the Push Services API thats in the new Beta build of iPhone software 2.1. Its a VERY short paragraph that actually say [...]</p>
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		<title>By: what</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425757</link>
		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are you talking about? FTW = for the win. You might be the last person on the internet who thinks it&#039;s an alternate for WTF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are you talking about? FTW = for the win. You might be the last person on the internet who thinks it&#8217;s an alternate for WTF.</p>
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		<title>By: Crudowns</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425667</link>
		<dc:creator>Crudowns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is push a &quot;wasteful app&quot;???

Are you serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is push a &#8220;wasteful app&#8221;???</p>
<p>Are you serious?</p>
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		<title>By: Helio</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425621</link>
		<dc:creator>Helio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only apple could get away with such a lame way to have background processes. The argument apple uses that backgrounds schemes are flawed because users don&#039;t realize they are still running is a testament to WinMo&#039;s incredibly terrible UI conventions more than against apps themselves. (And, frankly it is one against OS X itself since, from what I&#039;ve seen in tech support, average folks using it have no idea when an app is open or closed.) They can drain battery life but if apple is going to pick over every app that&#039;s on the store there&#039;s zero reason why they could not have a rating on how an apps average use will impact battery life. 

On any other platform people would see this for what it really is - an amazing way to track what apps people are using and how they are used. Great data for apple but about as lame as possible for users.  If MS tried it people would be spittle-raging against big brotherism but since it is apple, and they only deal you one card at a time people are actually grateful. Funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only apple could get away with such a lame way to have background processes. The argument apple uses that backgrounds schemes are flawed because users don&#8217;t realize they are still running is a testament to WinMo&#8217;s incredibly terrible UI conventions more than against apps themselves. (And, frankly it is one against OS X itself since, from what I&#8217;ve seen in tech support, average folks using it have no idea when an app is open or closed.) They can drain battery life but if apple is going to pick over every app that&#8217;s on the store there&#8217;s zero reason why they could not have a rating on how an apps average use will impact battery life. </p>
<p>On any other platform people would see this for what it really is &#8211; an amazing way to track what apps people are using and how they are used. Great data for apple but about as lame as possible for users.  If MS tried it people would be spittle-raging against big brotherism but since it is apple, and they only deal you one card at a time people are actually grateful. Funny.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle kaziman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425498</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle kaziman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t blame developers for bad battery life when it comes to applications.

On a windows phone for example, it is the users choice.  You run an app that requires to be in the background means that you understand that it affects your battery life.

At the end of the day, its my choice.  On an iPhone though, it is Apple&#039;s choice.

Additionally, Apple&#039;s argument against background apps doesn&#039;t hold water.  While it may be true to apps that need to connect and fetch data, most background apps don&#039;t use much additional battery.  For example, (and I&#039;ve done this) lets say I am entering in a new contact on my iPhone and a call comes in.  Guess what, all my work is lost because the contacts app cannot be pushed into the background.  I can not end the call two minutes later and go back to the contacts.

Apple treats it&#039;s customers like idiots and thinks it can make better decisions for the customer.  Well, each customer is different and has different needs.  Let the customer choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t blame developers for bad battery life when it comes to applications.</p>
<p>On a windows phone for example, it is the users choice.  You run an app that requires to be in the background means that you understand that it affects your battery life.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, its my choice.  On an iPhone though, it is Apple&#8217;s choice.</p>
<p>Additionally, Apple&#8217;s argument against background apps doesn&#8217;t hold water.  While it may be true to apps that need to connect and fetch data, most background apps don&#8217;t use much additional battery.  For example, (and I&#8217;ve done this) lets say I am entering in a new contact on my iPhone and a call comes in.  Guess what, all my work is lost because the contacts app cannot be pushed into the background.  I can not end the call two minutes later and go back to the contacts.</p>
<p>Apple treats it&#8217;s customers like idiots and thinks it can make better decisions for the customer.  Well, each customer is different and has different needs.  Let the customer choose.</p>
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		<title>By: PC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425422</link>
		<dc:creator>PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to second this. Push-Notify will only drain your battery faster. I imagine Apple will have some restrictions but I can imagine every App wanting to take advantage of this feature. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to second this. Push-Notify will only drain your battery faster. I imagine Apple will have some restrictions but I can imagine every App wanting to take advantage of this feature. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425418</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was commenting on the &#039;killer app&#039; background application running comment in the original post of course. You&#039;re right about the GPS re the battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was commenting on the &#8216;killer app&#8217; background application running comment in the original post of course. You&#8217;re right about the GPS re the battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis-Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425406</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis-Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew: Using the clipboard doesn&#039;t use up the battery, but the GPS component is the largest drain of all. As for the rest of the comment, it does give the impression that you are a bit fuzzy on the issues; the issue here is battery life, the proposed solution alleviates some of the strain, that benefits the user and the developers (why that weird dichotomy ?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew: Using the clipboard doesn&#8217;t use up the battery, but the GPS component is the largest drain of all. As for the rest of the comment, it does give the impression that you are a bit fuzzy on the issues; the issue here is battery life, the proposed solution alleviates some of the strain, that benefits the user and the developers (why that weird dichotomy ?)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Dalhauser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425393</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Dalhauser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone 2.0 firmware is so buggy I ended up returning my iPhone and canceling AT&amp;T till they release a more stable firmware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone 2.0 firmware is so buggy I ended up returning my iPhone and canceling AT&amp;T till they release a more stable firmware.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjorn Tipling</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425390</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjorn Tipling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I turned down the brightness on my screen and the battery life improved substantially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I turned down the brightness on my screen and the battery life improved substantially.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425382</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other developers could think of another 27 things which Apple &#039;could save itself a lot of problems&#039; by doing - the iPhone&#039;s position isn&#039;t the only thing needed by other applications. Cut &amp; Paste is one quick example I can think of which is a good case &#039;if only, just this please, it&#039;s easy....&#039;.

Apple are thinking about the user 1st and the developer 2nd, and that&#039;s the way it should be, surely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other developers could think of another 27 things which Apple &#8216;could save itself a lot of problems&#8217; by doing &#8211; the iPhone&#8217;s position isn&#8217;t the only thing needed by other applications. Cut &amp; Paste is one quick example I can think of which is a good case &#8216;if only, just this please, it&#8217;s easy&#8230;.&#8217;.</p>
<p>Apple are thinking about the user 1st and the developer 2nd, and that&#8217;s the way it should be, surely?</p>
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		<title>By: hassan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425376</link>
		<dc:creator>hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have tried using the phone for like 3 hours of talk time and a couple of hours of listening to songs? Even with the other services disabled the phone loses 80% battery...

However, I do hope apple provides an option to turn off &quot;App Push Notifications&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have tried using the phone for like 3 hours of talk time and a couple of hours of listening to songs? Even with the other services disabled the phone loses 80% battery&#8230;</p>
<p>However, I do hope apple provides an option to turn off &#8220;App Push Notifications&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: techdude</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425364</link>
		<dc:creator>techdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds ok...

http://blabtech.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds ok&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blabtech.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blabtech.blogspot.com'>http://blabtech.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dann</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425363</link>
		<dc:creator>Dann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/31/apple-releases-push-notification-services-developer-kit-background-apps-ftw/comment-page-1/#comment-2425362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn&#039;t that what it already does? It&#039;s using A-GPS so I don&#039;t think it&#039;s constantly making GPS calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t that what it already does? It&#8217;s using A-GPS so I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s constantly making GPS calls.</p>
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