Hewlett Packard, Intel and Yahoo announced the Cloud Computing Test Bed this morning. Executives from the three companies are holding a 9 am PST conference call to discuss the new venture. Participating are Prith Banerjee, Senior Vice President, Research, HP and Director, HP Labs; Prabhakar Raghavan, Head of Yahoo! Research; and Andrew Chien, Vice President, Corporate Technology Group, Intel and Director, Intel Research.
The product is a distributed computing platform for third party research and application building. My live call notes are below.
Notes, in chronological order:
…waiting for call to begin
Prith Banerjee from HP began the call and introduced Andrew Chien and Prabhakar Raghavan. Summarizing the key news: HP, Intel and Yahoo are partnering with governments and academic institutions to create an open source cloud computing test bed with six distributed centers. Global, distributed, Internet scale platform. The main goal is to remove financial and logistical barriers for people to develop cloud computing application. Partners include the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) in Germany.
HP believes we are entering an era of “everything as a service.” Businesses and users will use the services, which will anticipate your needs based on location, etc. This shift towards everything as a service will require a new approach. HP will conduct research in two areas: intelligent infrastructure and cloud services. They say they’ll experiment with radically new data center structures.
Andrew Chien from Intel: cloud computing is a big challenge. important technology issues around hardware stack to drive performance, energy usage, etc. This isn’t a “test tube” study, it’s a large scale distributed global platform. “Intel has a long history of open collaboration” he says.
Prabhakar Raghavan from Yahoo: Says Yahoo is pleased to be a cofounder of the project. Want to take Internet research “to the next level.” Says the next generation of the web demands collaborative research. Discussing M45 data center they launched with Carnegie Mellon and other projects where they experimented with cloud computing. Says this announcement is in the spirit of the earlier partnerships. Building and contributing to an “intellectual commons.”
Questions:
- how are each company contributing?
Each company is providing people and resources, and each is creating one of the six test beds. Research can be conducted across the stack. Yahoo has contributed open source software, from the OS to Hadoop. Chien reiterates support for open source software. Says some of the pieces of the data centers are up and running now.
- Size of investment by each company?
not disclosing financial terms. each facility will have 1,000- 4,000 processor cores.
- web needs a new architecture…please expand?
They want people to take the cloud for granted, so people can create applications at any scale.
- have they measured how much collective computing power? Why not part of IBM/Google research announced last year?
we’re complimentary to IBM/Google, and also different. they are going to allow people to run low levels of customized software. IBM/Google is focused on application level right now. In terms of scale, they say not to focus on total computational capability, but to focus on scalability.
- idea of timeline? what will finished products look like?
some of this is underway and being used. M45 datacenter has been in operation since 2007, this takes it to a broader level. they are looking to see publication of research by all parties, contribution to an intellectual commons.
- have they received government R&D funds?
says they are partnering with the national science foundation and various academic organization, never really answered the question.
- can others join this group? IP ownership?
Chien says they are taking a leadership step. open to more people contributing. On IP ownership, they are making clear statements about what is open source, commitment to openness.
Note: I was not allowed to ask a question for some reason. Things I would have asked:
1. How do third parties open their own facilities/data centers? What if Stanford wants to open a facility?
2. Pricing: How will resources be allocated to people building on the platform?
3. Where to people go for information on APIs and other tools needed to access the platform?
4. Yahoo kept referring to M45 as a version of this already deployed. Is that their contribution or are they building out a new facility.
Overall this is super squishy, and appears to be more of a hype release than anything. More details are needed. A lot more.





Great undertaking, a new page for Yahoo! (to be on par with the other players)..
This is very exciting stuff here. I’ve been considering purchasing one of these first generation cloud computers like the nimbus computer or the cherrypal. While they are not necessarily loaded with power, the concept is absolutely fantastic. I look forward to hearing about the progresses.
Bob
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Wow, I can’t wait to see what comes from this. I wonder if it will be based on Hadoop.
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This is simply hype to prevent the real players, Amazon, Google and Microsoft (and potentially IBM) from monopolizing the PR chips. IBM’s Blue Cloud “initiative” started with similar blather from the flacks and, as far as I can determine, went nowhere.
–rj
Truth is that cloud computing is progressing a lot this days - seems like every big company wants part of it (as a provider and as a user too)
But cloud computing isn’t designed for any application. According to this analyst, it makes sense for things that data centers don’t do well, or that they don’t do with much efficiency. Check out which services he thinks will respond well to a cloud setting.
HP is a business driven by quarterly numbers that lacks innovation and passion. Most likely they see this as a new “customer” to push boxes and consulting services on. Without passion they’ll never measure up to Google or Amazon.
All 3 are great companies, can’t wait to see their progress.. http://blabtech.blogspot.com
whatever………i guess will be popular as mobile phones……..
Yahoo’s M45 is already deployed at Carnegie Mellon, and is using one of Rackable’s ICE Cube containers:
http://www.datacenterknowledge.....kable.html
Yahoo’s friends are dressing her up for the wedding with Icahn, I mean the shareholder meeting this week.
Will be irrelevant. Microsoft’s Mesh will own them.
reminds me of those great apple joint ventures;
general magic; apple, sony
kaleida; apple, toshiba
taligent; apple, IBM
pippin; apple, bandai
Cloud Computing Test Bed…this seems to be a great and new concept. Since three large and reliable companies conceived, I think it’d be cool. Cool! LOL
“Taking the cloud for granted’ is such a nice way to say that the cloud will be a significant part of our future so much so that it is integrated into every fabric of our daily lives.
Anybody still dares contest this assumption?
Oh and btw, Yahoo, contrary to naysayers just proved it ain’t no walking ghost yet.
Best.
alain
http://www.mor.ph
This may sound too logical, but if you’re building something that might disrupt Google, Amazon, et al, you’d have to forget about their “Cloud” services and either build your own or go P2P/mesh.
http://evolvingtrends.wordpres.....portunity/
I’m sorry you weren’t able to get your questions answered yesterday morning. I’ve responded to them here http://www.communities.hp.com/.....ement.aspx
and look forward to continuing the cloud computing discussion with you.