Comments on: AOL Realizes Bloggers Will Work For Free; Stops Paying Them http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:45:14 -0800 hourly 1 By: The House is on fire...please relax in the living room. | thecrackheadfiles.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2692520 The House is on fire...please relax in the living room. | thecrackheadfiles.com Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:54:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2692520 [...] are facing similar problems. AOL gets rid of crappy free services while it’s bloggers blog for free. American Airlines says it will cut 1300 jobs (mostly maintenance workers and mechanics). Earlier [...] [...] are facing similar problems. AOL gets rid of crappy free services while it’s bloggers blog for free. American Airlines says it will cut 1300 jobs (mostly maintenance workers and mechanics). Earlier [...]

]]> By: georgea78 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2557741 georgea78 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:18:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2557741 Now it looks like some of those bloggers are going unpaid, and are writing under those staff accounts. On The Unoffical Apple Weblog (TUAW), for instance, some posts such as this one (screen shot at left) show an odd double byline, with the linked byline being attributed to a “TUAW Blogger” and the actual blogger’s name in text at the bottom. Apparently, the way AOL’s accounting system works, bloggers only get paid if their name is in the linked byline. ------------------------- georgea http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/ Now it looks like some of those bloggers are going unpaid, and are writing under those staff accounts. On The Unoffical Apple Weblog (TUAW), for instance, some posts such as this one (screen shot at left) show an odd double byline, with the linked byline being attributed to a “TUAW Blogger” and the actual blogger’s name in text at the bottom. Apparently, the way AOL’s accounting system works, bloggers only get paid if their name is in the linked byline.
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]]> By: Adam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2547562 Adam Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:37:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2547562 That's really not fair. Seems like you should have to pay a fair wage no matter what. That’s really not fair. Seems like you should have to pay a fair wage no matter what.

]]> By: delonadenis http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2523346 delonadenis Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:23:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2523346 AOL has a place in internet history, but when I grew up and realized you didn't need AOL to get on the internet (many years ago), I was sent into billing hell! I went for months trying to cancel my service, being told it was canceled, then seeing it on my statement again. You remember this...right AOL? I mean, it made national news. ------------------------- delonadenis <a href="http://www.inspire_itsolution.com" rel="nofollow">SEO</a> AOL has a place in internet history, but when I grew up and realized you didn’t need AOL to get on the internet (many years ago), I was sent into billing hell! I went for months trying to cancel my service, being told it was canceled, then seeing it on my statement again. You remember this…right AOL? I mean, it made national news.
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]]> By: Hits Singapore » Blog Archive » AOL’s Unhappy TVSquad Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2513500 Hits Singapore » Blog Archive » AOL’s Unhappy TVSquad Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:08:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2513500 [...] Unhappy TVSquad Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site AOL’s budget cuts across the board have been well reported, but the bloggers were the most vocal about it (as [...] [...] Unhappy TVSquad Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site AOL’s budget cuts across the board have been well reported, but the bloggers were the most vocal about it (as [...]

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]]> By: AOL Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2489123 AOL Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:32:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2489123 [...] budget cuts across the board have been well reported, but the bloggers were the most vocal about it (as [...] [...] budget cuts across the board have been well reported, but the bloggers were the most vocal about it (as [...]

]]> By: AOL Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2489122 AOL Bloggers Stay, But Also Launch Competing Site Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:32:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2489122 [...] budget cuts across the board have been well reported, but the bloggers were the most vocal about it (as [...] [...] budget cuts across the board have been well reported, but the bloggers were the most vocal about it (as [...]

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]]> By: Cameron http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2425824 Cameron Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:17:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2425824 Jason Working for you was quite an experience. This may not have happened on your watch as you were not an effective manager and did not have your hands on the steering wheel of the business. You are clearly very intelligent and creative, but a leader and manager of people and an organization, you were not. You are a visionary - stick to that. And try not to re-write history. You are a yeller and an ineffective manager of any team of people who possess a point of view that may at times be different then your own. It is healthy to have a high self-esteem but I have to be honest, we are treated much better by Brad then when you were calling the shots at Weblogs. Believe it or not, Brad is empowered and calling the shots, and we like it. Why not support him and root for us and Weblogs and AOL. you made it and are successful (or at least made mad money) in part because of Weblogs and AOL. root for us and don't bash weblogs or AOL. Cameron Jason

Working for you was quite an experience. This may not have happened on your watch as you were not an effective manager and did not have your hands on the steering wheel of the business.

You are clearly very intelligent and creative, but a leader and manager of people and an organization, you were not. You are a visionary – stick to that. And try not to re-write history. You are a yeller and an ineffective manager of any team of people who possess a point of view that may at times be different then your own. It is healthy to have a high self-esteem but I have to be honest, we are treated much better by Brad then when you were calling the shots at Weblogs. Believe it or not, Brad is empowered and calling the shots, and we like it. Why not support him and root for us and Weblogs and AOL. you made it and are successful (or at least made mad money) in part because of Weblogs and AOL. root for us and don’t bash weblogs or AOL.

Cameron

]]> By: LOTD for July 30 « Link Collection http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2424940 LOTD for July 30 « Link Collection Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:55:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2424940 [...] AOL asked many of its paid bloggers to work for free and many agreed since they have hope that they will get to keep their jobs at reduced pay starting in August: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/ [...] [...] AOL asked many of its paid bloggers to work for free and many agreed since they have hope that they will get to keep their jobs at reduced pay starting in August: http://www.tech...ps-paying-them/ [...]

]]> By: AOL’s Blogging Aspirations Imploding « Koo’s Corner http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2423995 AOL’s Blogging Aspirations Imploding « Koo’s Corner Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:38:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2423995 [...] TechCrunch now implies that bloggers are limited in how much they can be paid for blogging despite AOL’s denials that they have capped content production . Meanwhile a less public problem has arisen as the remainder of bloggers at FanHouse are repulsed [...] [...] TechCrunch now implies that bloggers are limited in how much they can be paid for blogging despite AOL’s denials that they have capped content production . Meanwhile a less public problem has arisen as the remainder of bloggers at FanHouse are repulsed [...]

]]> By: Alma http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2423497 Alma Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:44:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2423497 Which is why the bloggers should just bail now and find work elsewhere. Which is why the bloggers should just bail now and find work elsewhere.

]]> By: Jason http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2423424 Jason Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:30:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2423424 1. Number of blog posts in question here: 50 to 500. 2. Average cost of a blog post: $10-15 3. Total dollar amount: $500 to $7,500 4. Value of AOL as a business: $20B 5. Salary of a SVP or EVP at a major internet company, per week: $10-15,000 6. One hour of jet fuel: $20,000 For the record, this would not have happened on my watch. Note to the folks in middle management (who used to work for me): when you become more concerned with supporting the folks upstairs than supporting the folks "below" you than you've really lost touch. 1. Number of blog posts in question here: 50 to 500.
2. Average cost of a blog post: $10-15
3. Total dollar amount: $500 to $7,500
4. Value of AOL as a business: $20B
5. Salary of a SVP or EVP at a major internet company, per week: $10-15,000
6. One hour of jet fuel: $20,000

For the record, this would not have happened on my watch.

Note to the folks in middle management (who used to work for me): when you become more concerned with supporting the folks upstairs than supporting the folks “below” you than you’ve really lost touch.

]]> By: Tucson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2423190 Tucson Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:35:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2423190 But the writer have options. They can go to Calacanis' Mahalo - which according to him <a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/document.asp?doc_id=155238&f_src=flffour" rel="nofollow">get paid 10 dollars an hour to work in the "Greenhouse".</a> But the writer have options. They can go to Calacanis’ Mahalo – which according to him get paid 10 dollars an hour to work in the “Greenhouse”.

]]> By: What’s Up With The Download Squad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2423117 What’s Up With The Download Squad Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:01:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2423117 [...] AOL Realizes Bloggers Will Work For Free; Stops Paying Them [...] [...] AOL Realizes Bloggers Will Work For Free; Stops Paying Them [...]

]]> By: Philip Buxton http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2423028 Philip Buxton Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:39:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2423028 aye - they want to map a model like Helium's on where they share ad revenues with the bloggers. incentivises the bloggers to write more and better stuff. aye – they want to map a model like Helium’s on where they share ad revenues with the bloggers. incentivises the bloggers to write more and better stuff.

]]> By: Joe http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2422956 Joe Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:09:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2422956 Let's also remember that Ryan Block is leaving Engadget "late next month." I wonder if this is the reason? Let’s also remember that Ryan Block is leaving Engadget “late next month.” I wonder if this is the reason?

]]> By: Joe Coughlin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2422942 Joe Coughlin Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:50:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2422942 I buy that roundup posts should be posted under a generic account, but why is TV Squad now mostly written by their generic account? Why does Gadling see an increase in the use of their generic account? It would seem that if you're not Engadget or Joystiq, you can only have so many bylines that are actual people. If they're doing work for free and this is condoned, it's not right. No worker should ever have the option to choose not to get paid as this will result in abuse. I buy that roundup posts should be posted under a generic account, but why is TV Squad now mostly written by their generic account? Why does Gadling see an increase in the use of their generic account? It would seem that if you’re not Engadget or Joystiq, you can only have so many bylines that are actual people.

If they’re doing work for free and this is condoned, it’s not right. No worker should ever have the option to choose not to get paid as this will result in abuse.

]]> By: Jon Kepler http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/28/aol-realizes-bloggers-will-work-for-free-stops-paying-them/comment-page-1/#comment-2422919 Jon Kepler Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:10:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=20548#comment-2422919 I love the title of this article. Even if it's a little on the "spin" side, AOL deserves it. I love the title of this article. Even if it’s a little on the “spin” side, AOL deserves it.

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