Comments on: Redlasso Shuts Down In Response To Fox/NBC Lawsuit

By: Sarah

Sarah — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:33:55 +0000

Redlasso still has to pay for its prior copyright infringements.

The networks aren’t going to forget, especially if this company makes any profit at all.

By: Frederick Twain

Frederick Twain — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:30:03 +0000

http://www.atelier-us.com/medi.....h-redlasso

This article points out possible Redlasso responses to an August 4 court decision involving Cablevision cable company. It appears that Redlasso may not dissolve after all.

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By: Frederick Twain

Frederick Twain — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:22:55 +0000

I read anarticle that points out possible Redlasso responses to a August 4 court decision involving Cablevision cable company. It appears the Redlasso may not die after all:

Online Tivo with Redlasso?

By: ‘Office’ Star Jenna Fischer Shows Fans Her Love

‘Office’ Star Jenna Fischer Shows Fans Her Love — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:31:18 +0000

[...] know it’s been a while and I don’t have a clip (damn you RedLasso for not warning beta members you were about to lock us out of our accounts!), but I do have a [...]

By: mike

mike — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:41:10 +0000

Hey, that’s a FOX video clip of American Idol. no wonder why they are suing, they don’t get any royalties for the rebroadcast of it.

By: blue team

blue team — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:24:05 +0000

how is providing videos like this legal:

http://redlasso.blogspot.com/2.....-idol.html

By: Seth

Seth — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:48:15 +0000

The few times I had a chance to see a video hosted by RedLasso, and it said that the server was down. Are RL’s servers ever up?

By: Tucson

Tucson — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:52:57 +0000

About 2 months ago, Michael Arrington said “[the winners] will be the companies that throw out everything that’s come before and build new businesses around the natural behavior of people. Remove friction and win.” He proposed the idea of ‘Rethinking Copyright Law but according to this article, rethinking copyright law is a huge mistake.

By: Red Lasso is Over, It Was a Good Run « Sports Baron at Social Baron

Red Lasso is Over, It Was a Good Run « Sports Baron at Social Baron — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:56:52 +0000

[...] Techcrunch [...]

By: prophet

prophet — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:49:58 +0000

If you want to sue someone, there are always flaws to be exploited, specially on internet and copyrighted material.

By: Rick Calvert

Rick Calvert — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:48:16 +0000

I thought RedLasso had all this legal stuff worked out. Sorry to see this development is is a fantastic tool for bloggers. Maybe they can work something out with the networks.

By: GT

GT — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:05:59 +0000

The library analogies are completely incorrect. Last time I looked, my local librarian wasn’t trying to cash in on an IPO. Can we not compare a mostly self-serving corporation to an institution that was established and ismaintained for the common good.

By: Happy

Happy — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:26:05 +0000

You clearly don’t understand how the 1st Amendment works.

1st Amendment applies to GOVERNMENT regulation and restriction of speech.

1st Amendment DOES NOT apply to private regulation or restriction of speech, such as by individuals or corporations.

Fair use is part of copyright doctrine, not the 1st Amendment doctrine. Copyright is not a subset of the 1st amendment; it supersedes the 1st amendment (i.e., copyright can limit the 1st amendment, but not vice versa, in that copyright can restrict someone from improperly using speech “owned” by someone else.)

By: RedLasso folds in light of Lawsuit : Mid South Trial Lawyer

RedLasso folds in light of Lawsuit : Mid South Trial Lawyer — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:27:33 +0000

[...] National and Local TV and Radio broadcasts, create clips and share them.” But, as reported by TechCrunch, the company has shut down its beta after NBC and Fox filed lawsuits against the company. [...]

By: G

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:22:24 +0000

I guess, you are right about hosting copyright material…..just discovered that Bloomberg charges $ 300 on monthly basis for much less TV than Redlasso.com was providing for free.

I truly hope they can find some solution and restore the news clipping soon.

By: but like it was paid for too man

but like it was paid for too man — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:16:49 +0000

The original tv broadcast was paid for too (in the forms of ads that ran at the same time).

The library analogy is precise: a block of content is paid-for once at time of initial transmission; libraries and red lasso both made that already paid-for content available.

This is why libraries maintain subscriptions to all the major locla newspapers, too: they bought a legitimate copy at the time of initial publication, and then kept it around for subsequent lending; the fact that libraries haven’t taken to recording-and-archiving all the local tv and radio broadcasts (which is what red lasso was trying to do) was more a matter of economics (too expensive) than of mission.

What distinguishes the library from red lasso is that the library has been around long enough that people are used to what it does, and that libraries have some exemptions grandfathered in. That’s it.

By: DR

DR — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:04:51 +0000

That is a good point. A library pays for one copy of the book, it doesn’t pay distribution rights for that book, even though hundreds if not over time thousands of people might read that copy of the book for free. Copyright law is quite applicable to printed material, but there is clearly some issues with it being used for more transient things like music and video. I think a lot of people think copyright is the same as a patent — they are very different.

By: Aaron Stannard

Aaron Stannard — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:04:34 +0000

I appreciate the effort that you put into your blog but your marketing needs work.

By: Aaron Stannard

Aaron Stannard — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:03:31 +0000

Seems to me that some of the previous commentors can’t tell the difference between licensing and owning. DVDs are owned, movies/TV shows are licensed; Books are owned, the content is licensed. If a library lends a book they’re letting someone borrow owned property - if a library takes a copyrighted work, rips it into digital format, and then starts distributing it then they’re violating the licensing agreement of the person who licensed the original content which was published in the book.

Nuances, people.

By: DR

DR — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:54:59 +0000

Actually, moderating comments is common practice in blogs and it prevents the broken window effect from occurring where people feel it is ok to misbehave because others are doing so as well. TechCrunch is a popular blog and anytime you mix this many people together, it takes some counter-intuitive things to maintain order. Moderating the comments would not detract at all from what TechCrunch is trying to offer, which is being the first place to get tech news, and offering good high quality analysis. These ridiculous comments only serve to detract from that.

By: Ryan Born

Ryan Born — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:53:33 +0000

it is just not a good idea to host copyright infringing material…you will not get away with it in the long run….this is just like EMI suing Hi5 and VideoEgg….no matter how you slice it, the networks and record labels have the right to do this….just use and post material like the music we have available on AudioMicro at http://www.audiomicro.com and you won’t end up with a legal mess on your hands

By: sean percival

sean percival — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:40:43 +0000

Can say this is much of a surprise, how long did they expect to run with this? Love the idea but the networks are never going to get on board with it.

Also “betterthantc” why don’t you drop a few more links in the comments buddy, jeez.

By: Kyle Dylan Conner

Kyle Dylan Conner — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:38:36 +0000

What does that have to do with this story?

By: BetterThanTC

BetterThanTC — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:25:34 +0000

Scrabulous, the facebook app has just been sued as well. See more info on TL

TL - http://www.offur.com/BetterThanTechCrunch