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		<title>By: Guillaume&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What would be the iPod of Financial Services?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2512101</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What would be the iPod of Financial Services?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent mobile conference (Mobile Web Wars), Michael Arrington said: &#8220;people are always willing to give away their privacy for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Austin Roundtable: The Web Starts At The Grassroots (100 Tickets Available)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2469874</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Roundtable: The Web Starts At The Grassroots (100 Tickets Available)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at 3:00 p.m. (Austin Time) on Thursday, September 25. This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at 3:00 p.m. (Austin Time) on Thursday, September 25. This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Announcing A Grassroots Roundtable And 100 Tickets Available For TechCrunch MeetUp in&#160;Austin &#124; about ICT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2452518</link>
		<dc:creator>Announcing A Grassroots Roundtable And 100 Tickets Available For TechCrunch MeetUp in&#160;Austin &#124; about ICT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Center located on the University of Texas at Austin campus.  This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about an issue, live [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Center located on the University of Texas at Austin campus.  This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about an issue, live [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Announcing A Grassroots Roundtable And 100 Tickets Available For TechCrunch MeetUp in&#160;Austin &#124; aboutCREATION</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2452484</link>
		<dc:creator>Announcing A Grassroots Roundtable And 100 Tickets Available For TechCrunch MeetUp in&#160;Austin &#124; aboutCREATION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Center located on the University of Texas at Austin campus.  This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about an issue, live [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Center located on the University of Texas at Austin campus.  This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about an issue, live [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Announcing A Grassroots Roundtable And 100 Tickets Available For TechCrunch MeetUp in Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2452481</link>
		<dc:creator>Announcing A Grassroots Roundtable And 100 Tickets Available For TechCrunch MeetUp in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Center located on the University of Texas at Austin campus.  This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about an issue, live [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Center located on the University of Texas at Austin campus.  This will be similar in format to the Mobile Web Wars Roundtable I hosted in July—two dozen founders, CEOs, VCs, and execs in a room talking about an issue, live [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mobilidade é tudo &#187; Arquivo do Blog &#187; Excelentes vídeos&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2441826</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobilidade é tudo &#187; Arquivo do Blog &#187; Excelentes vídeos&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nokia, para quem não pode participaré uma bela fonte de informações. Os links estão aqui:  The Roundtable is a freewheeling discussion about whether the mobile Web is finally here and which platform will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nokia, para quem não pode participaré uma bela fonte de informações. Os links estão aqui:  The Roundtable is a freewheeling discussion about whether the mobile Web is finally here and which platform will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Silicon Valley VC Disease &#124; Open Source Blogging</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2441442</link>
		<dc:creator>The Silicon Valley VC Disease &#124; Open Source Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday at the Mobile Web Wars event (here&#8217;s video of that), held right before the TechCrunch party, David Hornik, partner at August Capital (he&#8217;s the host of the TechCrunch party) told the audience that he would not invest in pure iPhone apps because the iPhone had too small a market share and that anyone who wanted to get big in the mobile space should go after all phones, not just the iPhone, which, while it&#8217;s hot with early-adopter types and is seeing people waiting in lines to buy around the world, hasn&#8217;t yet made a dent in, say, Nokia&#8217;s market share of cell phones overall. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday at the Mobile Web Wars event (here&#8217;s video of that), held right before the TechCrunch party, David Hornik, partner at August Capital (he&#8217;s the host of the TechCrunch party) told the audience that he would not invest in pure iPhone apps because the iPhone had too small a market share and that anyone who wanted to get big in the mobile space should go after all phones, not just the iPhone, which, while it&#8217;s hot with early-adopter types and is seeing people waiting in lines to buy around the world, hasn&#8217;t yet made a dent in, say, Nokia&#8217;s market share of cell phones overall. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2439983</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you allow this video to be downloaded from uStream? I'd like to watch/listen on my mobile. uStream allows this, but the person uploading it has to allow it.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you allow this video to be downloaded from uStream? I&#8217;d like to watch/listen on my mobile. uStream allows this, but the person uploading it has to allow it.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2426599</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use your mobile phone to find your next job with JobMob.mobi - Mobile job search.  Best of all your job searches will be off the corporate network!

http://jobmob.mobi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use your mobile phone to find your next job with JobMob.mobi - Mobile job search.  Best of all your job searches will be off the corporate network!</p>
<p><a href="http://jobmob.mobi" rel="nofollow">http://jobmob.mobi</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#187; I Met My Hero Because of Twinkle / Wayne Pan's Blog - tech &#124; js &#124; ui &#124; ajax &#124; life &#124; mobile</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2423933</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; I Met My Hero Because of Twinkle / Wayne Pan's Blog - tech &#124; js &#124; ui &#124; ajax &#124; life &#124; mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Friday, at TC&#8217;s Mobile Wars, a couple AdMobsters and I were in attendance. Somewhere between the angry audience spectrum guy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guillaume&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A bank's payment strategy in 3 words: Convenience, Convenience, Convenience</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2423852</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A bank's payment strategy in 3 words: Convenience, Convenience, Convenience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this &#8220;hell&#8221; experience with one of the most interesting questions raised during the Mobile Web Wars conference last week:  Why  people are willing to pay for apps on the iPhone, but not on Facebook? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this &#8220;hell&#8221; experience with one of the most interesting questions raised during the Mobile Web Wars conference last week:  Why  people are willing to pay for apps on the iPhone, but not on Facebook? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Gorman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2423416</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Hi I am the supposed Crazy Guy.   Passion and conviction is sometimes mistaken for insanity :)   It is not often that I get so animated but some of the statements at the Event were either just plain wrong or so simplistic as to be laughable.  In any case, Apple will just be another Walled Garden for developers, albeit a slightly friendler one than Operators.

See Below

Gregory

 App Store frustrations bedevil iPhone developers
	By Jason Ankeny 	Comment &#124; Forward

Although iPhone 3G activation problems and MobileMe synchronization issues have attracted the lion's share of negative publicity, some mobile developers are also reporting problems with Apple's App Store. According to developers interviewed by Macworld, their frustrations have much to do with the length of time it requires Apple to push their software updates to iPhone users--in addition, some developers cite Apple's failure to communicate information on when their apps will be published live. Moreover, Apple has yet to provide App Store sales data, so developers are unsure how their iPhone applications are faring--Apple has pledged to share monthly sales reports, but some developers are calling for real-time statistics in order to gauge sales and adjust prices accordingly.

Even Apple's internal review process remains a mystery: "They reject apps for superficial things (icon being the wrong size, confusingly worded messages) while sometimes major bugs slip in under the radar," an iPhone developer who requested anonymity told Macworld. "It seems pretty haphazard and human-powered rather than automated." Nor is there any apparent rhyme or reason to the software update process, although another unnamed developer charged Apple with favoring large companies over small, independent firms." We submitted an update a week ago, and it still isn't updated," the developer said. "Some apps seem to get updated quickly, so some type of favoritism is evident. I've seen one day, and then I've seen two weeks--no one knows why the disparity, either... It's either favoritism or just general chaos."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Hi I am the supposed Crazy Guy.   Passion and conviction is sometimes mistaken for insanity <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It is not often that I get so animated but some of the statements at the Event were either just plain wrong or so simplistic as to be laughable.  In any case, Apple will just be another Walled Garden for developers, albeit a slightly friendler one than Operators.</p>
<p>See Below</p>
<p>Gregory</p>
<p> App Store frustrations bedevil iPhone developers<br />
	By Jason Ankeny 	Comment | Forward</p>
<p>Although iPhone 3G activation problems and MobileMe synchronization issues have attracted the lion&#8217;s share of negative publicity, some mobile developers are also reporting problems with Apple&#8217;s App Store. According to developers interviewed by Macworld, their frustrations have much to do with the length of time it requires Apple to push their software updates to iPhone users&#8211;in addition, some developers cite Apple&#8217;s failure to communicate information on when their apps will be published live. Moreover, Apple has yet to provide App Store sales data, so developers are unsure how their iPhone applications are faring&#8211;Apple has pledged to share monthly sales reports, but some developers are calling for real-time statistics in order to gauge sales and adjust prices accordingly.</p>
<p>Even Apple&#8217;s internal review process remains a mystery: &#8220;They reject apps for superficial things (icon being the wrong size, confusingly worded messages) while sometimes major bugs slip in under the radar,&#8221; an iPhone developer who requested anonymity told Macworld. &#8220;It seems pretty haphazard and human-powered rather than automated.&#8221; Nor is there any apparent rhyme or reason to the software update process, although another unnamed developer charged Apple with favoring large companies over small, independent firms.&#8221; We submitted an update a week ago, and it still isn&#8217;t updated,&#8221; the developer said. &#8220;Some apps seem to get updated quickly, so some type of favoritism is evident. I&#8217;ve seen one day, and then I&#8217;ve seen two weeks&#8211;no one knows why the disparity, either&#8230; It&#8217;s either favoritism or just general chaos.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SMS Text News &#187; Archives &#187; Exclusive look at the new Loopt beta</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2421764</link>
		<dc:creator>SMS Text News &#187; Archives &#187; Exclusive look at the new Loopt beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So I now want to talk about the TechCrunch event at August Capital last Friday. Before the meetup, there was a panel on the &#8220;Mobile Browsing Web Wars&#8221;. If you want to know about this read this post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So I now want to talk about the TechCrunch event at August Capital last Friday. Before the meetup, there was a panel on the &#8220;Mobile Browsing Web Wars&#8221;. If you want to know about this read this post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wim Permana</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2421165</link>
		<dc:creator>Wim Permana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never make a bet here and I won't. I just predict that in term of quantity, the open platform will always win. Almost all the time. That's all. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never make a bet here and I won&#8217;t. I just predict that in term of quantity, the open platform will always win. Almost all the time. That&#8217;s all. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420792</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it was awesome that they could film with multiple cameras like that, I don't mind it looks like a web video, but sound is important. I guess they just hsould have turned up the volume a bit or something and it would have been better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it was awesome that they could film with multiple cameras like that, I don&#8217;t mind it looks like a web video, but sound is important. I guess they just hsould have turned up the volume a bit or something and it would have been better.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Kolev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420787</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolay Kolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the sound quality was terrible! Also, it would be much more professional to remove the camcorder info from the video. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the sound quality was terrible! Also, it would be much more professional to remove the camcorder info from the video. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420751</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This 2-hour video is awesome. They could try to provide better sound quality next time though. Sound quality is the most important part of a web video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This 2-hour video is awesome. They could try to provide better sound quality next time though. Sound quality is the most important part of a web video.</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420749</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Android is going to win.

People who bought and signed a contract for an iPhone got screwed for between $1000 and $2000 in a closed garden device and really most people are not getting much use out of it.

Google Android is going to revolutionize all that though. The Michael Arrington app to lookup events and meet other people around your location is going to happen for the first time with Android.

And it is going to solve all the hunger, malnutrition, healthcare, peace, democracy and other such problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android is going to win.</p>
<p>People who bought and signed a contract for an iPhone got screwed for between $1000 and $2000 in a closed garden device and really most people are not getting much use out of it.</p>
<p>Google Android is going to revolutionize all that though. The Michael Arrington app to lookup events and meet other people around your location is going to happen for the first time with Android.</p>
<p>And it is going to solve all the hunger, malnutrition, healthcare, peace, democracy and other such problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Kolev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420711</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolay Kolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy is not crazy. He's passionate about Nokia the same way Mike is passionate about iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy is not crazy. He&#8217;s passionate about Nokia the same way Mike is passionate about iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Kolev</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420703</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolay Kolev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Arrogantington was my fave attendee. Android &#38; iPhone - his brain cannot fit more than 2 names! He kept repeating that iPhone is just 1-year old. In the world, 1 year is the life of a trendy phone and then nobody wants that ancient piece anymore. Oh, I forgot, in the US, they force you to sign a 2-year contract! In the US, they also charge you $0.15/text message and for incoming calls and messages and make you believe your phone is free or very cheap.

Don't get too excited about location-based services, because I'm sure soon horror stories will start making the news - kidnappings, assaults, rapes, divorces, etc. I'm sure the Big Brother, PIs, crimesters love iPhone! Everybody seems to forget how easily an iPhone got hacked last year and used as a spying device recording and streaming the audio from the mic home. Add pictures and location to that stream and you have the perfect spying device!

Also, advertisers are salivating like never before - they will be able to sell their better targeted ads at higher prices now. But does the consumer care about relevant or irrelevant ads? No, everybody hates ads and the last thing people want are ads on their phones!

Don't get me wrong, I think iPhone is a great device, it's changing the game in the US and teaching the greedy US carriers a good lesson, but it's just an overpriced phone with an overpriced plan outside of the US. Japanese and Korean people are probably laughing at the americans getting so excited about their new toy, when in Japan and Korea they've been doing video calls, watching TV, and making secure offline payments with their phones for years.

Android is cool, but having an open-source Symbian now, in addition to OpenMoko, Maemo, and some others... it's just one of the many. The OS is important to developers, but consumers don't care, so, let's see the first Android phones and then rush to put them at #2 after iPhone. Some of the first photos I've seen (fake or not) seemed just terrible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Arrogantington was my fave attendee. Android &amp; iPhone - his brain cannot fit more than 2 names! He kept repeating that iPhone is just 1-year old. In the world, 1 year is the life of a trendy phone and then nobody wants that ancient piece anymore. Oh, I forgot, in the US, they force you to sign a 2-year contract! In the US, they also charge you $0.15/text message and for incoming calls and messages and make you believe your phone is free or very cheap.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get too excited about location-based services, because I&#8217;m sure soon horror stories will start making the news - kidnappings, assaults, rapes, divorces, etc. I&#8217;m sure the Big Brother, PIs, crimesters love iPhone! Everybody seems to forget how easily an iPhone got hacked last year and used as a spying device recording and streaming the audio from the mic home. Add pictures and location to that stream and you have the perfect spying device!</p>
<p>Also, advertisers are salivating like never before - they will be able to sell their better targeted ads at higher prices now. But does the consumer care about relevant or irrelevant ads? No, everybody hates ads and the last thing people want are ads on their phones!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think iPhone is a great device, it&#8217;s changing the game in the US and teaching the greedy US carriers a good lesson, but it&#8217;s just an overpriced phone with an overpriced plan outside of the US. Japanese and Korean people are probably laughing at the americans getting so excited about their new toy, when in Japan and Korea they&#8217;ve been doing video calls, watching TV, and making secure offline payments with their phones for years.</p>
<p>Android is cool, but having an open-source Symbian now, in addition to OpenMoko, Maemo, and some others&#8230; it&#8217;s just one of the many. The OS is important to developers, but consumers don&#8217;t care, so, let&#8217;s see the first Android phones and then rush to put them at #2 after iPhone. Some of the first photos I&#8217;ve seen (fake or not) seemed just terrible!</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth Khimsara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddharth Khimsara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about the BREW platform by Qualcomm?? It's surely a closed platform but most of Qualcomm's mobile phone business in the Middle East and Asia uses BREW 

As for Symbian, I think it's a great OS. Personally I would love to see the fusion of Symbian and Andriod.  Symbian has a great low level API support and Andriod has good UI. A fusion would definitely mean a tough competition for iphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about the BREW platform by Qualcomm?? It&#8217;s surely a closed platform but most of Qualcomm&#8217;s mobile phone business in the Middle East and Asia uses BREW </p>
<p>As for Symbian, I think it&#8217;s a great OS. Personally I would love to see the fusion of Symbian and Andriod.  Symbian has a great low level API support and Andriod has good UI. A fusion would definitely mean a tough competition for iphone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chantelle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/25/mobile-web-wars-live-stream/#comment-2420614</link>
		<dc:creator>Chantelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see so much diversity at the table.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Scobleizer &#8212; Tech geek blogger &#187; Blog Archive The Silicon Valley VC Disease &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Silicon Valley VC&#160;Disease  Yesterday at the Mobile Web Wars event (here&#8217;s video of that), held right before the TechCrunch party, David Hornick, partner at August Capital (he&#8217;s the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Silicon Valley VC&nbsp;Disease  Yesterday at the Mobile Web Wars event (here&#8217;s video of that), held right before the TechCrunch party, David Hornick, partner at August Capital (he&#8217;s the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook&#8217;s iPhone App hit the 1 Million User mark &#124; iphone-unlock.ch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook&#8217;s iPhone App hit the 1 Million User mark &#124; iphone-unlock.ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Director of Mobile at Facebook, Jed Stremel, announced at Techcrunch Mobile Web Wars Roundtable that Facebook’s iPhone/iPod app has reached 1 million [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Director of Mobile at Facebook, Jed Stremel, announced at Techcrunch Mobile Web Wars Roundtable that Facebook’s iPhone/iPod app has reached 1 million [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techcrunch August Capital Event Wrapup</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you to the nearly 1,100 people who flowed through the Quadras Conference Center for our Mobile Web Wars event and the party at August Capital immediately afterwards. We were able to donate $7,500 to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you to the nearly 1,100 people who flowed through the Quadras Conference Center for our Mobile Web Wars event and the party at August Capital immediately afterwards. We were able to donate $7,500 to [...]</p>
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