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	<title>Comments on: Payoneer Raises $8 million Series B From Greylock And Carmel</title>
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		<title>By: Online Payments</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2852816</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Payments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s good to see... any competition against paypal is good to help keep costs low.
-Jack</description>
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-Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2588369</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how they get through issuing a bank account to someone without Identification. In Australia you need 100 points of ID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how they get through issuing a bank account to someone without Identification. In Australia you need 100 points of ID.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeping Online Payments Secure in Times of Uncertainty</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2542468</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeping Online Payments Secure in Times of Uncertainty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that pays directly to universally accepted Prepaid MasterCard cards. For more information on Payoneer visit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that pays directly to universally accepted Prepaid MasterCard cards. For more information on Payoneer visit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Citrix on an iPhone?? Amazing &#171; Tech N&#8217; Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2532798</link>
		<dc:creator>Citrix on an iPhone?? Amazing &#171; Tech N&#8217; Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] both platforms would really make the iPhone into a true business tool. Then maybe we would convince Payoneer to get us iPhones, oh yah I forgot you need to live in Botswana or Kenya to get an iPhone not Tel [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] both platforms would really make the iPhone into a true business tool. Then maybe we would convince Payoneer to get us iPhones, oh yah I forgot you need to live in Botswana or Kenya to get an iPhone not Tel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mystikleather</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2482881</link>
		<dc:creator>Mystikleather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this system great in order to transfer funds from my paypal accounts to a payoneer card but which one is the best to use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this system great in order to transfer funds from my paypal accounts to a payoneer card but which one is the best to use?</p>
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		<title>By: Philip J. Philliou</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2420331</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip J. Philliou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it!  Prepaid really is a sweetspot for innovation in the card business. In the cleverest of ways, program managers, such as Payoneer, are opening up new opportunities for converting cash and check to card.  That being said, I do wonder how sustainable the life of a program manager is.  As the prepaid card landscape (legal, regulatory and pricing) continues to become more defined and established, card issuers (the banks) and processors (TSYS, First Data, Metavante) will close ranks and eventually phase out program managers.  If I was advising Payoneer, I would suggest that they have a really unique opportunity to master global KYC rules and establish global best practices - that will make them an extremely valuable property.
Philip J. Philliou
Partner
Philliou Selwanes Partners, LLC (PSP)
philip@philliouselwanes.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it!  Prepaid really is a sweetspot for innovation in the card business. In the cleverest of ways, program managers, such as Payoneer, are opening up new opportunities for converting cash and check to card.  That being said, I do wonder how sustainable the life of a program manager is.  As the prepaid card landscape (legal, regulatory and pricing) continues to become more defined and established, card issuers (the banks) and processors (TSYS, First Data, Metavante) will close ranks and eventually phase out program managers.  If I was advising Payoneer, I would suggest that they have a really unique opportunity to master global KYC rules and establish global best practices &#8211; that will make them an extremely valuable property.<br />
Philip J. Philliou<br />
Partner<br />
Philliou Selwanes Partners, LLC (PSP)<br />
<a href="mailto:philip@philliouselwanes.com">philip@philliouselwanes.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; PayoneerがシリーズBでGreylockとCarmelから$8M調達</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; PayoneerがシリーズBでGreylockとCarmelから$8M調達</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [原文へ] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin K.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2419078</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Payoneer: Thrive or Fail? http://snurl.com/34f0l  [www_thriveorfail_com]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Payoneer: Thrive or Fail? <a href="http://snurl.com/34f0l" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://snurl.com/34f0l'>http://snurl.com/34f0l</a>  [www_thriveorfail_com]</p>
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		<title>By: Geno Arce</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2419077</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno Arce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have partnered with Payoneer and are now able to pay vendors that live in countries where the banking systems can&#039;t quite keep up with todays market.  Vendors around the world are no longer having to wait for checks to arrive, Their funds are simply uploaded to their 2CO branded re-loadable  MasterCard powered by Payoneer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have partnered with Payoneer and are now able to pay vendors that live in countries where the banking systems can&#8217;t quite keep up with todays market.  Vendors around the world are no longer having to wait for checks to arrive, Their funds are simply uploaded to their 2CO branded re-loadable  MasterCard powered by Payoneer.</p>
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		<title>By: techdude</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2419013</link>
		<dc:creator>techdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If parents or grandparents were to buy this for teens with an additional cost of $10, I bet they would rather buy a gift card to some store and put an extra 10 on the gift card. http://blabtech.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If parents or grandparents were to buy this for teens with an additional cost of $10, I bet they would rather buy a gift card to some store and put an extra 10 on the gift card. <a href="http://blabtech.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blabtech.blogspot.com'>http://blabtech.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: G-J</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2418994</link>
		<dc:creator>G-J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I live in South Africa, I was quite interested in Payoneer&#039;s offering, and decided to apply a few weeks ago. But they have a strange business model! They don&#039;t offer the cards directly, but through selected &quot;partners&quot; across the world (perhaps to circumvent the KYC requirements?). When I contacted their customer support for names of local partners, they flatly refused to disclose such information. I expressed my surprise at this in a reply (perhaps a bit strongly, in retrospect).

A while later, I happened to come across a &quot;partner&quot; that ships the cards to South Africa. Transferred my $30 deposit, entered my info for the application, and shortly thereafter received a response to my earlier support query that they notice I did after all manage to apply for a card. A few days later the application was refused without reason (for a debit card?). I hope I can get that deposit back!

All in all, I find their business model opaque, and am sceptical about how well they will be able to gain traction in their target markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I live in South Africa, I was quite interested in Payoneer&#8217;s offering, and decided to apply a few weeks ago. But they have a strange business model! They don&#8217;t offer the cards directly, but through selected &#8220;partners&#8221; across the world (perhaps to circumvent the KYC requirements?). When I contacted their customer support for names of local partners, they flatly refused to disclose such information. I expressed my surprise at this in a reply (perhaps a bit strongly, in retrospect).</p>
<p>A while later, I happened to come across a &#8220;partner&#8221; that ships the cards to South Africa. Transferred my $30 deposit, entered my info for the application, and shortly thereafter received a response to my earlier support query that they notice I did after all manage to apply for a card. A few days later the application was refused without reason (for a debit card?). I hope I can get that deposit back!</p>
<p>All in all, I find their business model opaque, and am sceptical about how well they will be able to gain traction in their target markets.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2418983</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a compliance perspective, this seems like a tougher road to hoe than for most money transfer companies.  Since Payoneer is doing this through a U.S. bank, it will be subject to bank-level &quot;know your customer&quot; (KYC) requirements rather than money-transfer level requirements.  This holds true even though Payoneer is creating a sub-account system.  So I&#039;m curious how Payoneer is doing online KYC for these international customers.  I&#039;m even more curious which bank they use, since most would shy away from this sort of business model.

I do like that they&#039;re leveraging the ACH system in the U.S. to handle payments.  That&#039;s great.  But to this observer, the future of global payments rests with he who can stitch together some version of a global ACH system.  My money is with VISA, and even they have a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a compliance perspective, this seems like a tougher road to hoe than for most money transfer companies.  Since Payoneer is doing this through a U.S. bank, it will be subject to bank-level &#8220;know your customer&#8221; (KYC) requirements rather than money-transfer level requirements.  This holds true even though Payoneer is creating a sub-account system.  So I&#8217;m curious how Payoneer is doing online KYC for these international customers.  I&#8217;m even more curious which bank they use, since most would shy away from this sort of business model.</p>
<p>I do like that they&#8217;re leveraging the ACH system in the U.S. to handle payments.  That&#8217;s great.  But to this observer, the future of global payments rests with he who can stitch together some version of a global ACH system.  My money is with VISA, and even they have a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2418942</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. i don&#039;t see much value here.. or
i don&#039;t understand this..

May be since it&#039;s worldwide, something useful here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.. i don&#8217;t see much value here.. or<br />
i don&#8217;t understand this..</p>
<p>May be since it&#8217;s worldwide, something useful here?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott C.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2418874</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...prepaid credit cards seem to have an upfront charge of $5-10 to even activate them before you can add a balance to them. (So paying $15 for a card will actually only give you $5 of spending money).

Who&#039;s gonna eat the cost of doing this for all those 13 yr. olds???

Also, Paypal&#039;s reasoning for verifying bank info is to make sure people aren&#039;t setting up a bunch of random accounts in case they need to reverse charge something or whatnot. I&#039;d never use this service to buy good or accept money online - there doesn&#039;t seem to be any protection. (And debit cards lack the protection that credit cards get).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;prepaid credit cards seem to have an upfront charge of $5-10 to even activate them before you can add a balance to them. (So paying $15 for a card will actually only give you $5 of spending money).</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s gonna eat the cost of doing this for all those 13 yr. olds???</p>
<p>Also, Paypal&#8217;s reasoning for verifying bank info is to make sure people aren&#8217;t setting up a bunch of random accounts in case they need to reverse charge something or whatnot. I&#8217;d never use this service to buy good or accept money online &#8211; there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any protection. (And debit cards lack the protection that credit cards get).</p>
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		<title>By: TechCult</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2418854</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see Paypal suffering from this competition anytime soon. I think its Paypal vs. Visa, although they do work together on some occasions (ie they are not direct competitiors).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Paypal suffering from this competition anytime soon. I think its Paypal vs. Visa, although they do work together on some occasions (ie they are not direct competitiors).</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/payoneer-raises-8-million-series-b-from-greylock-and-carmel/comment-page-1/#comment-2418841</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowadays more and more people want to date online,they place their profiles online,seeking love,friendship,sex.I also placed  a profile on &quot;&quot;&quot; Tallchat.com &quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;,a famous dating site for tall singles.There are many super models.I like models.LoL.
www.tallchat.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowadays more and more people want to date online,they place their profiles online,seeking love,friendship,sex.I also placed  a profile on &#8220;&#8221;" Tallchat.com &#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;,a famous dating site for tall singles.There are many super models.I like models.LoL.<br />
<a href="http://www.tallchat.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.tallchat.com'>http://www.tallchat.com</a></p>
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