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	<title>Comments on: Apple&#8217;s App Store: The New Walled Garden</title>
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		<title>By: On walls and wins — Shefaly Yogendra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-3085271</link>
		<dc:creator>On walls and wins — Shefaly Yogendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gardens, such as the AOL&#8217;s are going away while new ones are being erected, such as the Apple&#8217;s walled garden on which opinion is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AT&#38;T and Apple SUCK! - Cosmi&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2886323</link>
		<dc:creator>AT&#38;T and Apple SUCK! - Cosmi&#8217;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when the App Store first launched there were some warnings about its walled garden approach — could developers trust Apple to maintain a fair marketplace? Until recently, Apple [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core: Official Google Voice App Blocked From App Store &#124; Spin Valley Post</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2883750</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core: Official Google Voice App Blocked From App Store &#124; Spin Valley Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when the App Store first launched there were some warnings about its walled garden approach — could developers trust Apple to maintain a fair marketplace? Until now, Apple has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#160; Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core: Official Google Voice App Blocked From App Store&#160;by&#160;BlogAngle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2883601</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core: Official Google Voice App Blocked From App Store&#160;by&#160;BlogAngle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when the App Store first launched there were some warnings about its walled garden approach — could developers trust Apple to maintain a fair marketplace? Until now, Apple has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It&#8217;s Likely AT&#38;T&#8217;s Fault</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2883266</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple Is Growing Rotten To The Core, And It&#8217;s Likely AT&#38;T&#8217;s Fault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when the App Store first launched there were some warnings about its walled garden approach — could developers trust Apple to maintain a fair marketplace? Until now, Apple has [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mobile Web Wars Starts In Two Hours &#124; Cep Telefoncunuz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2624888</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Web Wars Starts In Two Hours &#124; Cep Telefoncunuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is finally here and developers have to choose what platform they want to bet on. Do they go with Apple&#8217;s beautiful walled garden, wait for more open Android pastures to arrive, or do they hope that Nokia figures out how to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: iPhone Daily Briefing - 2008.07.24 &#124; raven.me</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2439361</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone Daily Briefing - 2008.07.24 &#124; raven.me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Om Malik New iPhone 3G ads tout &#8216;twice as fast&#8217;, Macworld - iPhone Central, Dan Moren Apple&#8217;s App Store: The New Walled Garden, TechCrunch, Erick Schonfeld Apple seeds iPhone 2.1 with directional GPS, push notification, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Kinsley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Queuing for kudos or an iPhone 3G?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2423552</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Kinsley &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Queuing for kudos or an iPhone 3G?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and network as a stumbling block. To write apps, developers pretty much have to use the &#8216;App Store&#8216; - which requires the apps to be approved by AT&amp;T and the other big carriers that have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2422276</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just excellent.. Apple always Rocks!</description>
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		<title>By: katherines.linda</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2420345</link>
		<dc:creator>katherines.linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope it is a more benevolent one and  Apple is the new gatekeeper. Some information here about information techonology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it is a more benevolent one and  Apple is the new gatekeeper. Some information here about information techonology.</p>
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		<title>By: shawn wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2420090</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you mean, a platform like the system on chip that qualcomm has for it&#039;s development of brew? which (btw) you submit your code to them and they charge you for the submission and charge you for distribution. i think the phone company also gets a cut in brew development (we didn&#039;t get that far - i stupped reading when trying to learn their objective c crap or whatever it is they use).

i think apple is a bit more open then this. i haven&#039;t downloaded their sdk nor read any code, but since it is based on bsd, i&#039;d assume that they wouldn&#039;t go to far from standard c/c++ and maybe apple script or perl. there is supposedly opengl support on the phone, so i can&#039;t wait to see up coming games in the next months. and this is definately more open then brew.

the other real competitor (sorry if i don&#039;t think symbian is real competition - but they&#039;re not) is j2me. now, apple not allowing sun to put java on the iphone is worrisome. i don&#039;t think that most java apps would run natively on the iphone, but with minimul porting the app store could have thousands of apps over night if apple would allow sun to put java on the app store.

as for someone&#039;s comment about not allowing other browsers on the iphone to compete with safari - i don&#039;t think they can even if they were on the phone. i&#039;ve used most mobile web browsers (from opera (wm), opera mini, palm (native one, xlino - think that was the name of it), black berry) none do ajax, only opera has tabbed browsing, no one has the resizing cababilities. the only thing i miss on my iphone safari is flash (which is only on wm - and i think the bb too) and google bookmarks integration (which is only on my standard firefox and is a full google toolbar on any other pc browser).

as far as speed of development; they have vnc on the phone (i just need to setup a vpn so that i can feel nice and secure to use it off my network), but i don&#039;t want to have to vnc to a computer to ssh to another. and citrix? what&#039;s up with that, again vnc to one computer to use citrix on another. and teathering - i have to unlock it to teather it - stupid!

i suppose the point is that the iphone is a full blown computer as far as its features go. you just have to jump through hoops to get some things done (setup a vpn tunnel to vnc to a location, launch citrix, launch remote desktop, launch landesk, and look at an end users&#039; machine on an iphone on the other side of the world!

i don&#039;t care if they oppen up the app store, just allow me to run simple scripts (shell, perl, python - i don&#039;t care) to automate some of my jumping through hoops and i&#039;ll be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you mean, a platform like the system on chip that qualcomm has for it&#8217;s development of brew? which (btw) you submit your code to them and they charge you for the submission and charge you for distribution. i think the phone company also gets a cut in brew development (we didn&#8217;t get that far &#8211; i stupped reading when trying to learn their objective c crap or whatever it is they use).</p>
<p>i think apple is a bit more open then this. i haven&#8217;t downloaded their sdk nor read any code, but since it is based on bsd, i&#8217;d assume that they wouldn&#8217;t go to far from standard c/c++ and maybe apple script or perl. there is supposedly opengl support on the phone, so i can&#8217;t wait to see up coming games in the next months. and this is definately more open then brew.</p>
<p>the other real competitor (sorry if i don&#8217;t think symbian is real competition &#8211; but they&#8217;re not) is j2me. now, apple not allowing sun to put java on the iphone is worrisome. i don&#8217;t think that most java apps would run natively on the iphone, but with minimul porting the app store could have thousands of apps over night if apple would allow sun to put java on the app store.</p>
<p>as for someone&#8217;s comment about not allowing other browsers on the iphone to compete with safari &#8211; i don&#8217;t think they can even if they were on the phone. i&#8217;ve used most mobile web browsers (from opera (wm), opera mini, palm (native one, xlino &#8211; think that was the name of it), black berry) none do ajax, only opera has tabbed browsing, no one has the resizing cababilities. the only thing i miss on my iphone safari is flash (which is only on wm &#8211; and i think the bb too) and google bookmarks integration (which is only on my standard firefox and is a full google toolbar on any other pc browser).</p>
<p>as far as speed of development; they have vnc on the phone (i just need to setup a vpn so that i can feel nice and secure to use it off my network), but i don&#8217;t want to have to vnc to a computer to ssh to another. and citrix? what&#8217;s up with that, again vnc to one computer to use citrix on another. and teathering &#8211; i have to unlock it to teather it &#8211; stupid!</p>
<p>i suppose the point is that the iphone is a full blown computer as far as its features go. you just have to jump through hoops to get some things done (setup a vpn tunnel to vnc to a location, launch citrix, launch remote desktop, launch landesk, and look at an end users&#8217; machine on an iphone on the other side of the world!</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t care if they oppen up the app store, just allow me to run simple scripts (shell, perl, python &#8211; i don&#8217;t care) to automate some of my jumping through hoops and i&#8217;ll be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile Web Wars Starts In Two Hours</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419911</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Web Wars Starts In Two Hours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is finally here and developers have to choose what platform they want to bet on. Do they go with Apple&#8217;s beautiful walled garden, wait for more open Android pastures to arrive, or do they hope that Nokia figures out how to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BloomBurst - The Official Vox Pop Design Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cloud Computing: Convenience at What Cost?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419804</link>
		<dc:creator>BloomBurst - The Official Vox Pop Design Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cloud Computing: Convenience at What Cost?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zittrain maintains that it was the Internet&#8217;s openness - that messy, ruff-n-tumble, anyone can participate nature - that provided more meaningful innovation. This explosion in the unique, the odd, and the unpredictable quickly trumped the closed, safe, and stifling portals. Yet companies continue to maximize short term gain while minimizing long term benefits. Tivo has Linux inside. But write custom code for it to add features and you&#8217;ve voided your warranty. Apple has slowly opened a path for developers to get their apps on the iPhone. But they have to be approved by a central authority. [update 7/24 - TechCrunch on Apple&#8217;s &#8220;New&#8221; Walled Garden] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zittrain maintains that it was the Internet&#8217;s openness &#8211; that messy, ruff-n-tumble, anyone can participate nature &#8211; that provided more meaningful innovation. This explosion in the unique, the odd, and the unpredictable quickly trumped the closed, safe, and stifling portals. Yet companies continue to maximize short term gain while minimizing long term benefits. Tivo has Linux inside. But write custom code for it to add features and you&#8217;ve voided your warranty. Apple has slowly opened a path for developers to get their apps on the iPhone. But they have to be approved by a central authority. [update 7/24 - TechCrunch on Apple&#8217;s &#8220;New&#8221; Walled Garden] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419775</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the bulk of this article - Apple is indeed building a walled garden, and devs should indeed think twice before handing over the keys - but i have to take issue with your last sentence:

&quot;Apple cannot play favorites if it wants to become the dominant mobile Web platform.&quot;

Um... Why not? I&#039;ll bet they can. They did with iTunes. They did with the iPod. It doesn&#039;t necessarily sit well with me, either, but I&#039;ll wager they can, in fact, do exactly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the bulk of this article &#8211; Apple is indeed building a walled garden, and devs should indeed think twice before handing over the keys &#8211; but i have to take issue with your last sentence:</p>
<p>&#8220;Apple cannot play favorites if it wants to become the dominant mobile Web platform.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230; Why not? I&#8217;ll bet they can. They did with iTunes. They did with the iPod. It doesn&#8217;t necessarily sit well with me, either, but I&#8217;ll wager they can, in fact, do exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419742</link>
		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why all this whining?

If you don&#039;t like it, there&#039;s a simple solution  Don&#039;t buy the iPhone.

Apple can do whatever it wants.  It&#039;s a public company and their responsibility is ultimately to serve their shareholders not the consumers.
Apple is perfectly correct in blocking apps that they think would affect their core business.  Wouldn&#039;t you if you were Apple?

Doesn&#039;t mean I like the practice but it&#039;s a fact of life.  Not everything can be open and free willy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why all this whining?</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like it, there&#8217;s a simple solution  Don&#8217;t buy the iPhone.</p>
<p>Apple can do whatever it wants.  It&#8217;s a public company and their responsibility is ultimately to serve their shareholders not the consumers.<br />
Apple is perfectly correct in blocking apps that they think would affect their core business.  Wouldn&#8217;t you if you were Apple?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean I like the practice but it&#8217;s a fact of life.  Not everything can be open and free willy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tucson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419693</link>
		<dc:creator>Tucson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of walled garden is going to be in any company. It&#039;s very, very hard to be as open as possible without losing your competitive advantage (whatever that might be)

Regarding social networks, although there&#039;s a problem with walled-gardens - according to this author, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=575&amp;doc_id=143998&amp;f_src=flffour&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the whole milieu in which these concerns of openness and portability are contained is badly broken.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of walled garden is going to be in any company. It&#8217;s very, very hard to be as open as possible without losing your competitive advantage (whatever that might be)</p>
<p>Regarding social networks, although there&#8217;s a problem with walled-gardens &#8211; according to this author, <a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=575&amp;doc_id=143998&amp;f_src=flffour" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the whole milieu in which these concerns of openness and portability are contained is badly broken.&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419580</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re trying to run a business after all. I&#039;d love to have Skype, for example, and never have to actually pay for a phone call. Here in the UK at least apple use only one phone carrier for the iphone, and it offers paid call packages but all with unlimited data usage for a fixed monthly cost. Skype would destroy that business model so it&#039;s understandable that they want to keep a leash on the usable apps. The majority of users won&#039;t be jailbreaking and will be paying for their calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re trying to run a business after all. I&#8217;d love to have Skype, for example, and never have to actually pay for a phone call. Here in the UK at least apple use only one phone carrier for the iphone, and it offers paid call packages but all with unlimited data usage for a fixed monthly cost. Skype would destroy that business model so it&#8217;s understandable that they want to keep a leash on the usable apps. The majority of users won&#8217;t be jailbreaking and will be paying for their calls.</p>
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		<title>By: New Microsoft Like The Old Google, Apple Behaving Like Old Microsoft, Google Presently Losing Focus? &#124; ToMuse: wonderings of a Web consumer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419539</link>
		<dc:creator>New Microsoft Like The Old Google, Apple Behaving Like Old Microsoft, Google Presently Losing Focus? &#124; ToMuse: wonderings of a Web consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the launching of a super buggy MobileMe service that&#8217;s lacking decent tech support, and its walled garden of mobile applications are reminiscent of the old over-promising under-delivering ways of Microsoft.  The only clear [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Apple’s App Store: The New Walled Garden &#171; Weblibraryjpn&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419428</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple’s App Store: The New Walled Garden &#171; Weblibraryjpn&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apple’s App Store: The New Walled Garden(July 23, 2008 TechCrunch) One reason startups and developers are so excited about the iPhone is because they can create richer mobile applications for it and it promises to become a more open platform than the carrier-controlled home decks on most other cell phones. But don’t be so sure that they are not trading one walled garden for another. The home deck is being replaced by the iPhone App Store on iTunes. And Apple controls which apps get virtual shelf space in that store, and which ones get featured. There are only 700 or so apps in the App Store, but there are thousands that want to get in. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apple’s App Store: The New Walled Garden(July 23, 2008 TechCrunch) One reason startups and developers are so excited about the iPhone is because they can create richer mobile applications for it and it promises to become a more open platform than the carrier-controlled home decks on most other cell phones. But don’t be so sure that they are not trading one walled garden for another. The home deck is being replaced by the iPhone App Store on iTunes. And Apple controls which apps get virtual shelf space in that store, and which ones get featured. There are only 700 or so apps in the App Store, but there are thousands that want to get in. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shunshui kyorakuu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419360</link>
		<dc:creator>shunshui kyorakuu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey idiotic erick, if you think apple is the new gatekeeper of apps you should visiting this link: http://www.fuckingnda.com/. the devs are really mad with what apple is doing to their apps. not allowing them to share how they made it to the community. apple is never about sharing, theyre all about getting money.

and you sir is a blinded, idiotic, moronic apple fanboy. and dont tell me im a windows fanboy cuz i might just smash this macbook pro of mine on your head.

wake up idiot! and oh if you want to debate with tech stuff and such. do email me and il bring you to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey idiotic erick, if you think apple is the new gatekeeper of apps you should visiting this link: <a href="http://www.fuckingnda.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.fuckingnda.com/'>http://www.fuckingnda.com/</a>. the devs are really mad with what apple is doing to their apps. not allowing them to share how they made it to the community. apple is never about sharing, theyre all about getting money.</p>
<p>and you sir is a blinded, idiotic, moronic apple fanboy. and dont tell me im a windows fanboy cuz i might just smash this macbook pro of mine on your head.</p>
<p>wake up idiot! and oh if you want to debate with tech stuff and such. do email me and il bring you to school.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; AppleのApp Store：新たな囲い込み</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419333</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; AppleのApp Store：新たな囲い込み</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: robb lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419222</link>
		<dc:creator>robb lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikiev - 
Have you ever dealt with lawyers? What makes you think they need grounds? :-)
Here&#039;s what I&#039;m referring to...
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/details.html

No where in there does it state that &quot;upon approval&quot;, &quot;must meet requirements&quot;, etc... They are using distribution in the app store as a major selling benefit This could be construed as false advertising.

Don&#039;t think some lawyer isn&#039;t going to recognize the buzz oppty here to make a name for themselves suing Apple on behalf of disgruntled developers. The opening for false advertising is there. It has nothing to do with apple being obligated to be open and fair. 

-Robb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikiev &#8211;<br />
Have you ever dealt with lawyers? What makes you think they need grounds? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m referring to&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/details.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/details.html'>http://develope...am/details.html</a></p>
<p>No where in there does it state that &#8220;upon approval&#8221;, &#8220;must meet requirements&#8221;, etc&#8230; They are using distribution in the app store as a major selling benefit This could be construed as false advertising.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think some lawyer isn&#8217;t going to recognize the buzz oppty here to make a name for themselves suing Apple on behalf of disgruntled developers. The opening for false advertising is there. It has nothing to do with apple being obligated to be open and fair. </p>
<p>-Robb</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Sulu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419203</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Sulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is in the same category of technical ignorance that includes the New York Times calling Google Docs and other online services &quot;cloud computing&quot;.  Where do these so-called journalists get off trying to cover the software industry.  Clueless, clueless, clueless.

Shows just how transparently shallow their knowledge really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is in the same category of technical ignorance that includes the New York Times calling Google Docs and other online services &#8220;cloud computing&#8221;.  Where do these so-called journalists get off trying to cover the software industry.  Clueless, clueless, clueless.</p>
<p>Shows just how transparently shallow their knowledge really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419182</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric.  I agree with these comments.  Your post is way off.  You&#039;re fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric.  I agree with these comments.  Your post is way off.  You&#8217;re fired.</p>
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		<title>By: MikieV</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/24/apples-app-store-the-new-walled-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-2419176</link>
		<dc:creator>MikieV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But if they arbitrarily decide what gets in (again, if they claim the platform role) then I think they are opening themselves up to potential lawsuits.&quot;

Lawsuits? On what grounds?

Why is Apple obligated to be &quot;open and fair&quot;?

Did Apple ever promise developers they would be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But if they arbitrarily decide what gets in (again, if they claim the platform role) then I think they are opening themselves up to potential lawsuits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lawsuits? On what grounds?</p>
<p>Why is Apple obligated to be &#8220;open and fair&#8221;?</p>
<p>Did Apple ever promise developers they would be?</p>
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