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	<title>Comments on: Channel Intelligence Sues Just About Everyone Who Offers Wishlists</title>
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		<title>By: Michiel van der Blonk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2571904</link>
		<dc:creator>Michiel van der Blonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not in favor of CI, but I did read the patent quickly. The patent does not seem to even be about wish lists. 

Mostly the text does not actually deal with wish lists in general, although it is mentioned. The underlying technology is about storing meta data of fields belonging to products. If a simple wish list site is not storing meta data of fields, but simply storing records (simple, normalized structures) then 80-90% of the claim is not relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not in favor of CI, but I did read the patent quickly. The patent does not seem to even be about wish lists. </p>
<p>Mostly the text does not actually deal with wish lists in general, although it is mentioned. The underlying technology is about storing meta data of fields belonging to products. If a simple wish list site is not storing meta data of fields, but simply storing records (simple, normalized structures) then 80-90% of the claim is not relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2567667</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beware of Channel Intelligence!  We hired this company years ago and had a horrible experience with this company, and now that we have done our research on this company’s legal history, we now understand why our choice to rely on them years ago is still causing us damage today.  We also learned a little more about their revenue model too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware of Channel Intelligence!  We hired this company years ago and had a horrible experience with this company, and now that we have done our research on this company’s legal history, we now understand why our choice to rely on them years ago is still causing us damage today.  We also learned a little more about their revenue model too.</p>
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		<title>By: nanciesweb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-1/#comment-2439552</link>
		<dc:creator>nanciesweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to get all of the other defendants together and pool your resources to get a good lawyer.

Besides being loosely worded, if wishlists existed BEFORE the patent, then the patent can be invalidated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to get all of the other defendants together and pool your resources to get a good lawyer.</p>
<p>Besides being loosely worded, if wishlists existed BEFORE the patent, then the patent can be invalidated.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2438761</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing what poor journalism can do. If Michael Arrington had gotten his story right, you&#039;d know that the suit is NOT against wishlists, but against wishlists that consolidate items available from different vendors or websites into a single location. BIG difference.

As a former customer of Channel Intelligence, I can tell you that their software runs far more eCommerce across the web than you&#039;re aware, and as they are a very reputable company, I&#039;d be hard-pressed to imagine them doing anything frivolous.  Their software is powerful, and they have every right to defend their technology. 

You can&#039;t beleive everything you read, but obviously many of you seem to be quick on the trigger when you read something that is just plain wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing what poor journalism can do. If Michael Arrington had gotten his story right, you&#8217;d know that the suit is NOT against wishlists, but against wishlists that consolidate items available from different vendors or websites into a single location. BIG difference.</p>
<p>As a former customer of Channel Intelligence, I can tell you that their software runs far more eCommerce across the web than you&#8217;re aware, and as they are a very reputable company, I&#8217;d be hard-pressed to imagine them doing anything frivolous.  Their software is powerful, and they have every right to defend their technology. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t beleive everything you read, but obviously many of you seem to be quick on the trigger when you read something that is just plain wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-1/#comment-2433269</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the big boys have already come to terms with them.  I would doubt, they would only file suit against so called &quot;easy prey&quot; if they could get their hands on a big dog.  A big dog may cost more to fight, but also brings in a much bigger pay day.  These start ups will just fold shop and  go away.  I assume they already have agreements in place with the big boys, where they receive their royalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the big boys have already come to terms with them.  I would doubt, they would only file suit against so called &#8220;easy prey&#8221; if they could get their hands on a big dog.  A big dog may cost more to fight, but also brings in a much bigger pay day.  These start ups will just fold shop and  go away.  I assume they already have agreements in place with the big boys, where they receive their royalties.</p>
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		<title>By: Creating A List From A Database? Prepare For A Patent Infringement Suit &#124; My Best Blogroll</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2427866</link>
		<dc:creator>Creating A List From A Database? Prepare For A Patent Infringement Suit &#124; My Best Blogroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that owns a ridiculously broad and obvious patent on creating a list from a database and is now suing a whole bunch of small websites that offer things like wishlists. Read through the claims of the patent and see if you can explain [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that owns a ridiculously broad and obvious patent on creating a list from a database and is now suing a whole bunch of small websites that offer things like wishlists. Read through the claims of the patent and see if you can explain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Howdy Doody</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2423608</link>
		<dc:creator>Howdy Doody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The patent examiner at the USPTO who had this patent to process must have just gotten off the banana boat. He must have just seen a &#039;Pong&#039; game for the first time that day.

In the relational db world, let&#039;s go back to the first sales literature for Oracle in 1978-79, or for DB2 before that, or for all the published work arising from the Ingres db research at Stanford in the same era, and see what you see - lists, items in databases arranged in rows and columns, selectable, sortable.

Or how about the American Airlines reservations system in the early 1960&#039;s as prior art - databases with tickets/itineraries &#039;on-hold&#039;, accessible via a file number at a later time (call it a &#039;wish list&#039; if you want to).

Or how about the SAGE missile control system from the 1950&#039;s - with its small databases residing in &#039;core&#039; memory?

The USPTO system is farcical with respect to software patents, and the trolls who take advantage of it ought to be put up against a wall and shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The patent examiner at the USPTO who had this patent to process must have just gotten off the banana boat. He must have just seen a &#8216;Pong&#8217; game for the first time that day.</p>
<p>In the relational db world, let&#8217;s go back to the first sales literature for Oracle in 1978-79, or for DB2 before that, or for all the published work arising from the Ingres db research at Stanford in the same era, and see what you see &#8211; lists, items in databases arranged in rows and columns, selectable, sortable.</p>
<p>Or how about the American Airlines reservations system in the early 1960&#8217;s as prior art &#8211; databases with tickets/itineraries &#8216;on-hold&#8217;, accessible via a file number at a later time (call it a &#8216;wish list&#8217; if you want to).</p>
<p>Or how about the SAGE missile control system from the 1950&#8217;s &#8211; with its small databases residing in &#8216;core&#8217; memory?</p>
<p>The USPTO system is farcical with respect to software patents, and the trolls who take advantage of it ought to be put up against a wall and shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jhonny</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-1/#comment-2422196</link>
		<dc:creator>Jhonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the blog interview with the CEO of this stupid company?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/etan_on_tech/2008/07/channel-intelli.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the blog interview with the CEO of this stupid company?</p>
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		<title>By: FVB &#62; Channel Intelligence CEO: "Read the Patent"</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2419864</link>
		<dc:creator>FVB &#62; Channel Intelligence CEO: "Read the Patent"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FVB &gt; Channel Intelligence CEO: &quot;Read the Patent&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

CEO, Rob Wight: &quot;When someone comes in and develops something that steals one of your core ideas, it&#039;s incumbent on the company to protect its core technology.&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FVB &gt; Channel Intelligence CEO: &#8220;Read the Patent&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>CEO, Rob Wight: &#8220;When someone comes in and develops something that steals one of your core ideas, it&#8217;s incumbent on the company to protect its core technology.&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Sources &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Create a Wishlist and Get Sued By A-Holes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2419484</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Sources &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Create a Wishlist and Get Sued By A-Holes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An Open Letter to Channel Intelligence: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Company patents wishlists, sues almost everyone &#124; The tech blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2419140</link>
		<dc:creator>Company patents wishlists, sues almost everyone &#124; The tech blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] View: US Patent 6,917,941 Link: Full Story @ TechCrunch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2419138</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someone can patent masturbation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone can patent masturbation.</p>
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		<title>By: Cognition Machine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; U.S. Patent Reform</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2418998</link>
		<dc:creator>Cognition Machine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; U.S. Patent Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] policies regarding software patenting. A great example of a terrible patent granted by the USPTO is this one where they thought someone could patent the concept of what amounts to creating a list in a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2418932</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;@JR
I think your absolutely wrong - blame both USPTO and the lawyers,  above all - your politicians. Patents is so 20th century-ish. I hope the 21th century will be the century when the world had humanity in mind and stopped people from helping one another. Patents in the software industry I hope is the first to fall, hard and fast.&quot;

JR, after you&#039;ve spent 200-300 uncompensated hrs and several thousand dollars developing a killer app which you hope to market and discover someone is distributing it for free on the internet, come back and tell us how you feel about your involuntary contribution to humanity.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be basking in the glow of all that unintended altruism. 

Things like cell phones, PCs, DVD players etc don&#039;t invent themselves. They are result of individual effort and risk taking.

Feel free to give away whichever of your posessions you wish but please leave us grownups the tools needed to smack budding socialists such as yourself when you attempt to distribute that which does not belong to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;@JR<br />
I think your absolutely wrong &#8211; blame both USPTO and the lawyers,  above all &#8211; your politicians. Patents is so 20th century-ish. I hope the 21th century will be the century when the world had humanity in mind and stopped people from helping one another. Patents in the software industry I hope is the first to fall, hard and fast.&#8221;</p>
<p>JR, after you&#8217;ve spent 200-300 uncompensated hrs and several thousand dollars developing a killer app which you hope to market and discover someone is distributing it for free on the internet, come back and tell us how you feel about your involuntary contribution to humanity.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll be basking in the glow of all that unintended altruism. </p>
<p>Things like cell phones, PCs, DVD players etc don&#8217;t invent themselves. They are result of individual effort and risk taking.</p>
<p>Feel free to give away whichever of your posessions you wish but please leave us grownups the tools needed to smack budding socialists such as yourself when you attempt to distribute that which does not belong to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Company patents wishlists, sues almost everyone &#124; Virtual Solutions Network -</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2418324</link>
		<dc:creator>Company patents wishlists, sues almost everyone &#124; Virtual Solutions Network -</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] View: US Patent 6,917,941 Link: Full Story @ TechCrunch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SinfullyTransparent</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2418191</link>
		<dc:creator>SinfullyTransparent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assholes</description>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2417522</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just received a notification that we are also sued by CI. This is clearly ridiculous. If you are one of the companies sued by CI please email me at: amit at sbsh.net so that we can further discuss our different options for working together.

It might be easier working together here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just received a notification that we are also sued by CI. This is clearly ridiculous. If you are one of the companies sued by CI please email me at: amit at sbsh.net so that we can further discuss our different options for working together.</p>
<p>It might be easier working together here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2417427</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We deal with this company at the place I work. They are snakes and have tried multiple times to talk us into implementing some seriously questionable code on our site.

I hope they eat a big plate of bumpkiss here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We deal with this company at the place I work. They are snakes and have tried multiple times to talk us into implementing some seriously questionable code on our site.</p>
<p>I hope they eat a big plate of bumpkiss here.</p>
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		<title>By: Crafty Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2417354</link>
		<dc:creator>Crafty Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bluntly declare that I very much support reasonable software and business model patents, and am disgusted by the selfish Commie trolls who think mind work on software and business models ought not to be paid in full measure with patent protection just like any other mind work. Having said that, this &quot;wishlist&quot; patent, as with what seems like thousands of other patents on obvious concepts and prior art, is not only ridiculous but fundamentally offensive. These people are outright thieves trying to make money from a common culture of simple and obvious ideas that were already in existence long before they and their greedy lawyers tricked an overworked Patent and Trademark Office into granting them a patent on one or more of them.

These people need to be actually sent to prison for felony fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bluntly declare that I very much support reasonable software and business model patents, and am disgusted by the selfish Commie trolls who think mind work on software and business models ought not to be paid in full measure with patent protection just like any other mind work. Having said that, this &#8220;wishlist&#8221; patent, as with what seems like thousands of other patents on obvious concepts and prior art, is not only ridiculous but fundamentally offensive. These people are outright thieves trying to make money from a common culture of simple and obvious ideas that were already in existence long before they and their greedy lawyers tricked an overworked Patent and Trademark Office into granting them a patent on one or more of them.</p>
<p>These people need to be actually sent to prison for felony fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: philand &#187; blog archive &#187; patent 6917941</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2417229</link>
		<dc:creator>philand &#187; blog archive &#187; patent 6917941</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] techcrunch, google, groklaw  posted in rants &#124;&#124; print &#124; email &#124; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A firm tries to patent online wish lists in Europe. Shall we stop them?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2417140</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A firm tries to patent online wish lists in Europe. Shall we stop them?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week TechCrunch reported that Channel Intelligence (CI), a company based in Florida, had filed a lawsuit for patent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-3/#comment-2416657</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peapod (online grocery store) had grocery lists. They were in business in 1996. Prior art. Case closed.

Or go into any SQL Database Company&#039;s documentation for their products going back to the early 1980s. Ingres, Rdb, Oracle, Sybase, Progress, Postgres, DB2, Phil White&#039;s company, etc., and I&#039;m sure that you&#039;ll find examples of lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peapod (online grocery store) had grocery lists. They were in business in 1996. Prior art. Case closed.</p>
<p>Or go into any SQL Database Company&#8217;s documentation for their products going back to the early 1980s. Ingres, Rdb, Oracle, Sybase, Progress, Postgres, DB2, Phil White&#8217;s company, etc., and I&#8217;m sure that you&#8217;ll find examples of lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Mayes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-2/#comment-2416627</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, the message is reaching the establishment.  Latest example: Channel Intelligence is suing everybody (if they&#8217;re small) for wishlists in a database.  Sheesh.  How does the USPTO let this kind [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, the message is reaching the establishment.  Latest example: Channel Intelligence is suing everybody (if they&#8217;re small) for wishlists in a database.  Sheesh.  How does the USPTO let this kind [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Beckstead</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-2/#comment-2416600</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Beckstead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No most kids do not use a database for sending letters to Santa.  They would have to put in in a computer and e-mail for this stupid patent to apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No most kids do not use a database for sending letters to Santa.  They would have to put in in a computer and e-mail for this stupid patent to apply.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/17/channel-intelligence-sues-just-about-everyone-who-offers-wishlists/comment-page-2/#comment-2416460</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20040161257 is a published patent application, not a granted patent.  The PTO publishes the application as filed by the attorney who wrote the application.  The examiner does not correct mistakes in the application.  The publication process is automatic, by the time the application has been published, an examiner hasn&#039;t even been assigned to the case, much less looked at the claims.  The attorney who wrote and filed the application made the mistake, not the PTO examiner.  After the patent application has gone through the examination process, the &quot;bogus&quot; claim language will be gone.

I can&#039;t defend the issued patents for exercising a cat, etc., though.  Those are inexcusable AND were reviewed by an examiner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20040161257 is a published patent application, not a granted patent.  The PTO publishes the application as filed by the attorney who wrote the application.  The examiner does not correct mistakes in the application.  The publication process is automatic, by the time the application has been published, an examiner hasn&#8217;t even been assigned to the case, much less looked at the claims.  The attorney who wrote and filed the application made the mistake, not the PTO examiner.  After the patent application has gone through the examination process, the &#8220;bogus&#8221; claim language will be gone.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t defend the issued patents for exercising a cat, etc., though.  Those are inexcusable AND were reviewed by an examiner.</p>
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