Comments on: Department of Civil Disobedience: Google Should Deliver Its YouTube Data to Viacom in Paper Form

By: gcnrupe

gcnrupe — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:54:48 +0000

bullshit, they censor so much many people’s videos are taken down whether or not they are fair use, or if it is one of hundreds of thousands of flagrantly bs DCMA takedowns. Go kiss MPAA/RIAA ass elsewhere. I hope you get sued for using music in any video you make.

By: Bill Byson

Bill Byson — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:39:17 +0000

You may be surprised to learn that about one-third of the raw material used to make paper in the U.S. is residue – wood chips and scraps left behind from forest and sawmill operations. These “leftovers” would probably be burned or discarded if not used by the paper industry.

Another third of the raw material is recovered paper. Although some papers contain 100 percent recycled fiber, papermakers often combine various amounts of recycled and new fiber to produce the desired quality and grade of paper.

Only about one-third of the fiber used to make paper in the U.S. is from whole trees, which the industry calls round wood. It is not considered economical to use large logs for paper when they could instead be used for lumber. For this reason, only trees smaller than 8 inches in diameter, or larger trees not suitable for solid wood products, typically are harvested for papermaking.

By: E.Baker

E.Baker — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:28:15 +0000

I was thinking that exact same thing!

By: Whocares

Whocares — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:41:27 +0000

I know that when I post this comment, may people will dismiss me as just another crazy anti smite racist bigot..but just read my comments and think outside the box for a minute.
The Dept of Civil Disobedience (whatever the fuck that is) is feeling tremendous amount of pressure from countless organized Jewish and Israeli groups (and there are literally hundreds) and their directive is simple. They want to limit (or eliminate all together) any video footage that is found to show Israelis (particularly Israeli solddiers) commiting violent and shameful terror against te Palestinian people. The Israeli’s popular meida and PR line that “It is only defending itself against terrorism” does not hold up well when this footage often shows innocent civilians getting killed and injuredby the thousands..and it gets in the way of their objective of anihalating the Palestinian people one member at a time..if neccessary. It also makes the US look bad for supporting this behaviuor with the billions of US dollars that are sent to Israel in aid every year. That is what this is all about..they don’t give a shit about any other content…you can take that to the bank Jack..

By: MQilty

MQilty — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:36:57 +0000

That shit wouldn’t fly for a second. Viacom would just tell the judge, and he would order Google to submit the info electronically. He would probably sanction Google for such a stunt. It is a funny idea though.

By: Me

Me — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:03:50 +0000

If some comment (way up there) about the data being delivered on hard drives is right, they should take all the data, put it in a big winrar archive, and split it up into 2mB parts, and put that on the hard drives (also from a comment way up there).

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:39:33 +0000

Dear Google

Please please please please do this.

Love,
Jon

By: ramen

ramen — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:08:58 +0000

“Trees for paper come from tree farms” …..

Go back to your games looser.
Shoot yourself ( I wanted to say in your brain, but sorry you don’t one).

By: Jery Franco

Jery Franco — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:23:15 +0000

Hello, is this for real? is it for sure going to be implemented? I have a suggestion: send it in, bit by bit, in paper !!! Bureaucracies run in paper, that is their favorite format since biblical times. So, let them have it. I am positive that after the first truckload of it they will cease and desist.
Good heavens, someone must learn something, sometime. This is s great opportunity for teaching them fascists a nice lesson.

By: Dammit_Jim

Dammit_Jim — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:06:40 +0000

I don’t even care

By: Ravensun

Ravensun — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:34:04 +0000

OK, if we’re having fun, how about floppies?

Nobody said it had to be in a MODERN electronic format. The 5¼-inch (35 track) Shugart SA 400 holds a whopping 89.6 kB formatted… let’s see… even if we round it up to 90 kB, that’s 11 per megabyte, 11,000 per gigabyte… 230,000,000 per terabyte… at 20 terabytes, that’s… 4,600,000,000 floppies. I don’t think there are that many left in the world!

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:37:08 +0000

Sure, let’s kill off a whole forest just to give Viacom some information that could be sent over the Internet. TechCrunch = Morons.

By: Ben Pettis

Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:37:06 +0000

Send Viacom the data in the form of millions of planes writing sky messages.

On second thought, that may not be a good idea: the clouds would prevent any human from seeing the sun for a few weeks.

By: Stan

Stan — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:12:59 +0000

This article provides very little in the way of information, only states that the author obviously feels that the ruling is wrong. Why is there this ruling? What has YouTube done? Why have they been ordered to do this? Before I can agree or disagree with this ruling, it would be nice to know why it was even ruled.

As far as privacy goes, why does it violate my privacy? Why does it violate anyone’s privacy? Anything you post on YouTube is public, right? So are you arguing that it would be a violation of privacy for someone to know what has been posted and by whom on a site that releases video to the public? Or is it more the privacy of those that have viewed video?

I imagine that this has something to do with copyright, in which case YouTube is on shaky grounds, since they regularly post video that violates such laws.

By: Ksheep

Ksheep — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:46:50 +0000

How about sending all the data over the telegraph via Morse code? How long would that take?

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:20:08 +0000

Er…trees for paper typically come from tree farms. It’s a renewable resource, like corn, asparagus or chickens. The more paper the printing industries need, the more trees they plant. So, um, if you like trees, use more paper.

By: lwolffc

lwolffc — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:56:11 +0000

maybe they could deliver it an archaic format, still electronic, 1’s & 0’s

By: G

Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:28:54 +0000

Google comes up with their own text file format,
They come up with a proprietary reader, and sell if for an outrageous amount.
Convert all data to that file format, Viacom either buys reader form Google for asking price, or has to spend money to convert format.

Better yet, if one could copyright (I don’ think you can…) a file format, they can sell their reader for even more and if Viacom circumvents that, copyright violation. Bam, counter suite.

Lots of ‘if’s’ but these comments aren’t about being plausible.

By: Fred

Fred — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:04:55 +0000

Nice one, but if it a mater of keeping inside legal lines, the should only put one kilobyte of Information on each drive over a period of 1 year

By: Oxygen

Oxygen — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:55:45 +0000

Ummm.. what about the fact that trees are good? you need them to live so they can give us OXYGEN!

By: sebastian riera

sebastian riera — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:45:05 +0000

dude, fuck trees. whats more important to you, the awesomest thing ever. or some fucking trees?
plus they could do an episode of the office where google buys all that paper

By: Kyle

Kyle — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:43:55 +0000

I saw google has someone read them to Viacom, extremely slowly. This would use up quite a few more terabytes and Viacom would have to pay someone to write them all down. Google could even have its customers read off all the videos they’ve personally seen if they want.

By: Trustme

Trustme — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:30:59 +0000

A) I don’t think the paper idea was serious, it’s more tongue in cheek, but if it was serious, there is always recycled paper, so greenies stop having heart attacks. In fact as the data has to be preserved, print it on hemp paper which is more durable and environmentally sustainable.

B) Chopping down trees and putting them in landfill cuts down CO2? Dear lord! Does Shooting icebergs into the sun cut down global warming?

C) The data has to be supplied in electronic format regardless of how many inventive ways you make up in the “if only” field of imagination but it IS funny to speculate, grow a sense of humour some of you!

D) Google voluntarily handed over (and continues to do so) names and info of dissenters and anyone else the Chinese authorities demands, the US is just being more inventive by using the presupposition of a court case to elicit the same information.

E) My suggestion would be to put all the data on ZX Spectrum Waffle Drives, or the old 8 inch 360k disc drives, or on ZX81 cassette format (all of which would actually satisfy the demands of handing them over in electronic format). 10 terrabytes of C90’s would be amusing!

By: George Fowler

George Fowler — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:45:02 +0000

Better Yet!!!!! Print it on rock and send it to them !!!!!

By: Gregory GOrDon

Gregory GOrDon — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:30:25 +0000

I had no idea that this was happening, thanks so much for posting. I am now in touch with my lawyer about making sure that MY information does not get turned over to anyone. I suggest that anyone else who competes against Viacom do the same. It is like using a Trojan Horse to gain company secrets that I chose to share with the select few who were previously interested in my topic area, but did not choose to send to my enemies who could use that information to undermine my company and my personal interests. I am as yet unaware of the reason that google has to turn information over to viacom but my shit can never hit the airwaves over broadcast TV as such I am very concerned with this move. What gives them the right?