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		<title>By: The Long Tail - Revolutionary or Myth? &#124; Daan Jansonius</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2717290</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long Tail - Revolutionary or Myth? &#124; Daan Jansonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: הזנב הארוך כנראה לא כזה כלכלי&#160;&#124;&#160;ClickWise</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2447808</link>
		<dc:creator>הזנב הארוך כנראה לא כזה כלכלי&#160;&#124;&#160;ClickWise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] פוסט מעניין על מחקר שנערך אוניברסיטת הארוורד שטוען כי תאורית הזונב הארוך אינה מודל כלכלי רווחי בהשוואה לראש הזנב, ושחברות כמו גוגל שמשתמשות במודל הזה כדי להדפיס מילארדים בשנה הם יוצא מן הכלל ולא החוק החדש בבניית מודל עסקי באינטרנט.    &#171; דירוג האתרים בישראל האצת קידום אתרים במנועי חיפוש לא תניב תוצאות מהירות יותר &#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: doctor Z</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2434318</link>
		<dc:creator>doctor Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylvie nailed it. Like to add one point. Span of attention is well known syndrome and most people have difficulty beyond seven levels or instances in anything. Ask someone what the last seven books or films they read or saw. Good luck.

Long tail phenomena is a direct consequence of this effect and on the Web we bookmark a lot but vist a few. It&#039;s a human condition that will exist until humans can have an intelligent dialog with a sentient Web that does all the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvie nailed it. Like to add one point. Span of attention is well known syndrome and most people have difficulty beyond seven levels or instances in anything. Ask someone what the last seven books or films they read or saw. Good luck.</p>
<p>Long tail phenomena is a direct consequence of this effect and on the Web we bookmark a lot but vist a few. It&#8217;s a human condition that will exist until humans can have an intelligent dialog with a sentient Web that does all the work.</p>
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		<title>By: sylvie chen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2434316</link>
		<dc:creator>sylvie chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The weakness in the long tail model is the assumption of &quot;perfect information&quot; leads to &quot;perfect choice&quot;. If we step away from books and music (well formed metadata), it is difficult to find sources of well managed information that can lead us to making a choice with minimal effort. 

A case in point is how we find out about new Web services. It takes a lot of work to move this information down the pipe (Techcrunch.com being a good example). a 2D map search engine shows how difficult the problem is without ontologies and shared data. 

Services such as Digg and Twitter and to a lesser extent social media sites, act as ticklers to the common conscience of people on the Web.
If you don&#039;t get enough tickles, you don&#039;t participate. Just remember, prior to  search engines we relied on phone directories, mail media and word of mouth. The long tail existed then and will continue to exist until the effort to find things intelligently becomes a no-cost ubiquitous commodity for every person. 

Sometimes, not knowing makes life easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The weakness in the long tail model is the assumption of &#8220;perfect information&#8221; leads to &#8220;perfect choice&#8221;. If we step away from books and music (well formed metadata), it is difficult to find sources of well managed information that can lead us to making a choice with minimal effort. </p>
<p>A case in point is how we find out about new Web services. It takes a lot of work to move this information down the pipe (Techcrunch.com being a good example). a 2D map search engine shows how difficult the problem is without ontologies and shared data. </p>
<p>Services such as Digg and Twitter and to a lesser extent social media sites, act as ticklers to the common conscience of people on the Web.<br />
If you don&#8217;t get enough tickles, you don&#8217;t participate. Just remember, prior to  search engines we relied on phone directories, mail media and word of mouth. The long tail existed then and will continue to exist until the effort to find things intelligently becomes a no-cost ubiquitous commodity for every person. </p>
<p>Sometimes, not knowing makes life easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Wait, You&#8217;re Telling Me the Long Tail Is Flat? &#171; .Evolving Music.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2429787</link>
		<dc:creator>Wait, You&#8217;re Telling Me the Long Tail Is Flat? &#171; .Evolving Music.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you heard the news? Apparently the long tail is flat. For those of you unfamiliar with the long tail, it&#8217;s a theory coined by Chris Anderson (The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Community Guy, Jake McKee - Does the Long Tail improve blockbuster quality?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2409179</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Guy, Jake McKee - Does the Long Tail improve blockbuster quality?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] links to an article about whether the Long Tail is really valid and/or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steven freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2408729</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. The makers of taste are among the few but responsible for our socially apt choices. Good taste easily finds its way to the top.

2. Gerry Springer once told me after I asked him whether he pays people to go on his show:&quot;do you really think in a country of 300M people there are not 10M idiots who love my show and 100000 who would pay me to be on it?&quot;.

Long tail offers a conceptual platform for new age independant common folk to make a living from whatever they have to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The makers of taste are among the few but responsible for our socially apt choices. Good taste easily finds its way to the top.</p>
<p>2. Gerry Springer once told me after I asked him whether he pays people to go on his show:&#8221;do you really think in a country of 300M people there are not 10M idiots who love my show and 100000 who would pay me to be on it?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Long tail offers a conceptual platform for new age independant common folk to make a living from whatever they have to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Stepping on the Long Tail &#124; Point Oh!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2405355</link>
		<dc:creator>Stepping on the Long Tail &#124; Point Oh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] story in the Harvard Business Review gained a lot of popularity this week when it was picked up by TechCrunch and even garnered a response from Anderson himself (summary: &#8220;your Long Tail is different [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] story in the Harvard Business Review gained a lot of popularity this week when it was picked up by TechCrunch and even garnered a response from Anderson himself (summary: &#8220;your Long Tail is different [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2400779</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to chime in on this topic having just published an article on the same.

I have not read Ms. Elberse&#039;s paper so I cannot comment on the validity of her findings or conclusions. What we are all really responding to is TechCrunch.com&#039;s  own conclusions drawn from her paper (which I assume and hope that they have read).

That being said, Anita Elberse claim is immediately questionable due to her own admission that &quot;She defines head and tail differently than Anderson&quot;. You cannot disprove an argument or experiment using different definitions of the key terms. It is in this violation of the rules of both rhetoric and scientific method that her argument starts on shaky ground - or at least as her argument reads in TechCrunch.com&#039;s article.

The use of relative terms like &quot;much money&quot; also tends to weaken Ms. Elberse&#039;s presentation of her findings. As an entrepreneur running a business from a home office, &quot;much money&quot; has a very different meaning than it does if I am CEO of an international corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to chime in on this topic having just published an article on the same.</p>
<p>I have not read Ms. Elberse&#8217;s paper so I cannot comment on the validity of her findings or conclusions. What we are all really responding to is TechCrunch.com&#8217;s  own conclusions drawn from her paper (which I assume and hope that they have read).</p>
<p>That being said, Anita Elberse claim is immediately questionable due to her own admission that &#8220;She defines head and tail differently than Anderson&#8221;. You cannot disprove an argument or experiment using different definitions of the key terms. It is in this violation of the rules of both rhetoric and scientific method that her argument starts on shaky ground &#8211; or at least as her argument reads in TechCrunch.com&#8217;s article.</p>
<p>The use of relative terms like &#8220;much money&#8221; also tends to weaken Ms. Elberse&#8217;s presentation of her findings. As an entrepreneur running a business from a home office, &#8220;much money&#8221; has a very different meaning than it does if I am CEO of an international corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sazbean &#187; Your online inventory still needs blockbusters</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2400230</link>
		<dc:creator>Sazbean &#187; Your online inventory still needs blockbusters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Starting on page 4 of the report the author has given the online retailers and websites (presumably the reader of the article as well) a wonderful list of suggestions drawn from her research.  Visit the HBR site for more details.  Techcrunch&#8217;s Erick Schonfeld also has a good write-up on the article here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Starting on page 4 of the report the author has given the online retailers and websites (presumably the reader of the article as well) a wonderful list of suggestions drawn from her research.  Visit the HBR site for more details.  Techcrunch&#8217;s Erick Schonfeld also has a good write-up on the article here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2397509</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her examples are arbitrary.  She should have looked at the state of television as there are over 100mm households in the US with a set.  Broadcast tv is being replaced by numerous niche cable channels.  100% long tail economics that are actually quite profitable.  

Makes you wonder what a Harvard Business School education is worth nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her examples are arbitrary.  She should have looked at the state of television as there are over 100mm households in the US with a set.  Broadcast tv is being replaced by numerous niche cable channels.  100% long tail economics that are actually quite profitable.  </p>
<p>Makes you wonder what a Harvard Business School education is worth nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Anirvan Lahiri</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2397493</link>
		<dc:creator>Anirvan Lahiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is at first glance, a good counter-example to the long tail is dead argument but its success does not repudiate the anti-long-tail thesis that Anita has put forward.  Her point is not to deny demand for the long tail, nor to say that such demand cannot be addressed. Her point is that the marginal revenue from catering to such demand will be on average very slim and therefore only business models engineered with even smaller marginal costs can succeed. 

Google validates - not challenges -  this thesis:

1) Its marginal cost for each additional page indexed or search query delivered must be vanishingly small while its revenues per click should be larger. 

2) The perception that Google covers the long tail / everything under the sun makes users far likelier to use Google for mainstream searches. So not only is Google&#039;s marginal cost for covering the long tail small, actually that cost could be allocated not just to the long tail but also to its mainstream business.

3) Google&#039;s coverage of the long tail seems to have grown inversely with the marginal compute and storage costs of doing so. Google no longer displays the size of its index on its homepage but I recall seeing that number move from a billion to 8 billion over the years when it did publicise that information. In other words, it appears plausible that Google only increased long tail coverage as the marginal cost of doing so became affordable relative to expected marginal revenues.

What this seems to mean for other businesses trying to monetise the long tail is that if the marginal cost vs marginal revenue component of the business model does not work &amp; scale, there is no long term future for the business. Not an encouraging thought but sobering nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is at first glance, a good counter-example to the long tail is dead argument but its success does not repudiate the anti-long-tail thesis that Anita has put forward.  Her point is not to deny demand for the long tail, nor to say that such demand cannot be addressed. Her point is that the marginal revenue from catering to such demand will be on average very slim and therefore only business models engineered with even smaller marginal costs can succeed. </p>
<p>Google validates &#8211; not challenges &#8211;  this thesis:</p>
<p>1) Its marginal cost for each additional page indexed or search query delivered must be vanishingly small while its revenues per click should be larger. </p>
<p>2) The perception that Google covers the long tail / everything under the sun makes users far likelier to use Google for mainstream searches. So not only is Google&#8217;s marginal cost for covering the long tail small, actually that cost could be allocated not just to the long tail but also to its mainstream business.</p>
<p>3) Google&#8217;s coverage of the long tail seems to have grown inversely with the marginal compute and storage costs of doing so. Google no longer displays the size of its index on its homepage but I recall seeing that number move from a billion to 8 billion over the years when it did publicise that information. In other words, it appears plausible that Google only increased long tail coverage as the marginal cost of doing so became affordable relative to expected marginal revenues.</p>
<p>What this seems to mean for other businesses trying to monetise the long tail is that if the marginal cost vs marginal revenue component of the business model does not work &amp; scale, there is no long term future for the business. Not an encouraging thought but sobering nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: FVB &#62; A Manufactured Long Tail Debate?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2396999</link>
		<dc:creator>FVB &#62; A Manufactured Long Tail Debate?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FVB &gt; A Manufactured Long Tail Debate?...&lt;/strong&gt;

A friend of mine forwarded Lee Gomes&#039;s WSJ article questioning Chris Anderson&#039;s Long Tail theory, referencing a recent Harvard Business Review article by Anita Elberse.

Setting aside Lee&#039;s original Long Tail skepticism, possibly because it sugges...</description>
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<p>A friend of mine forwarded Lee Gomes&#8217;s WSJ article questioning Chris Anderson&#8217;s Long Tail theory, referencing a recent Harvard Business Review article by Anita Elberse.</p>
<p>Setting aside Lee&#8217;s original Long Tail skepticism, possibly because it sugges&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Herot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2396939</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Herot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elberse doesn&#039;t say that you can&#039;t make money in the Long Tail, but that since the tail is really l o n g a successful long tail business must avoid paying for the merchandise until it is sold.  This is easier on the Internet where the cost of storing the product is approaches zero.

The long tail can work for an intermediary who aggregates a lot of different items and pays for them on consignment.  It doesn&#039;t work so well for the creators of those products who may only sell a few untits, or none at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elberse doesn&#8217;t say that you can&#8217;t make money in the Long Tail, but that since the tail is really l o n g a successful long tail business must avoid paying for the merchandise until it is sold.  This is easier on the Internet where the cost of storing the product is approaches zero.</p>
<p>The long tail can work for an intermediary who aggregates a lot of different items and pays for them on consignment.  It doesn&#8217;t work so well for the creators of those products who may only sell a few untits, or none at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson/Elberse Long Tail Debate Reveals a Lot of Internet Subtleties &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2396750</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson/Elberse Long Tail Debate Reveals a Lot of Internet Subtleties &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch&#8217;s Erick Schonfeld writes that Elberse has &#8220;poked holes in the long tail theory&#8221;, but that to say there is no money in the Long Tail is nonsense.  He raises the interesting notion that it may take a special kind of business to fully take advantage of the long tail, and cites Google AdSense as one such.  My takeaway is that this is another flavor of suggesting the Long Tail players have to cast an exceptionally broad net to filter enough gold out of the Long Tail river. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TechCrunch&#8217;s Erick Schonfeld writes that Elberse has &#8220;poked holes in the long tail theory&#8221;, but that to say there is no money in the Long Tail is nonsense.  He raises the interesting notion that it may take a special kind of business to fully take advantage of the long tail, and cites Google AdSense as one such.  My takeaway is that this is another flavor of suggesting the Long Tail players have to cast an exceptionally broad net to filter enough gold out of the Long Tail river. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nullset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nullset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Long Tail Ecenomics Interpretation...&lt;/strong&gt;

But, even more importantly, the statistics themselves don&#039;t necessarily bear out the conclusion. All they really tell us is a fairly self-evident fact - that, yes, popular music and moves are, in fact popular....</description>
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<p>But, even more importantly, the statistics themselves don&#8217;t necessarily bear out the conclusion. All they really tell us is a fairly self-evident fact &#8211; that, yes, popular music and moves are, in fact popular&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Madhavan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2396430</link>
		<dc:creator>Madhavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Let Me Explain -- I like your brevity and precision.

I think the head gets shorter and that&#039;s what really matters now.
I also think that the tail will wag the dog at least in a &quot;countervailing&quot; fashion. The problem with such analyses is that overstretches a small deficiency to make an extreme case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Let Me Explain &#8212; I like your brevity and precision.</p>
<p>I think the head gets shorter and that&#8217;s what really matters now.<br />
I also think that the tail will wag the dog at least in a &#8220;countervailing&#8221; fashion. The problem with such analyses is that overstretches a small deficiency to make an extreme case.</p>
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		<title>By: J S</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2396341</link>
		<dc:creator>J S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of the Long Tail is just there because it&#039;s undiscovered country.  If marketing and placement were behind some of those obscure long tail pieces and people knew to search for it then those will be at the top.

Pareto&#039;s Principle is that there will ALWAYS be a top that significantly outperforms the rest (and it doesn&#039;t matter the content of the list, check out the Forbes 500 Richest lists).  The Long Tail will always exist too.  The Internet just allows selections from the Long Tail to move up faster/easier with the right kind of marketing.

The TV show &quot;Friends&quot; used an unknown lead-in song for the show, and the band was put on the map where they sold a lot more songs/CDs that they otherwise would not have.  Many times unknown songs put in movies become hits.  It&#039;s just that people have a chance to experience the material, not that the material is good/bad on its own.

So go discover the Long Tail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the Long Tail is just there because it&#8217;s undiscovered country.  If marketing and placement were behind some of those obscure long tail pieces and people knew to search for it then those will be at the top.</p>
<p>Pareto&#8217;s Principle is that there will ALWAYS be a top that significantly outperforms the rest (and it doesn&#8217;t matter the content of the list, check out the Forbes 500 Richest lists).  The Long Tail will always exist too.  The Internet just allows selections from the Long Tail to move up faster/easier with the right kind of marketing.</p>
<p>The TV show &#8220;Friends&#8221; used an unknown lead-in song for the show, and the band was put on the map where they sold a lot more songs/CDs that they otherwise would not have.  Many times unknown songs put in movies become hits.  It&#8217;s just that people have a chance to experience the material, not that the material is good/bad on its own.</p>
<p>So go discover the Long Tail.</p>
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		<title>By: הזנב הארוך כנראה לא כזה כלכלי &#171; ClickWise קידום אתרים</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-2/#comment-2396320</link>
		<dc:creator>הזנב הארוך כנראה לא כזה כלכלי &#171; ClickWise קידום אתרים</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3, 2008     פוסט מעניין על מחקר שנערך אוניברסיטת הארוורד שטוען כי תאורית [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3, 2008     פוסט מעניין על מחקר שנערך אוניברסיטת הארוורד שטוען כי תאורית [...]</p>
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		<title>By: imma</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2396259</link>
		<dc:creator>imma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice, but what do the numbers (1-10) on the graph mean &amp; why are there 10 columns?
% is percent of rentals, i guess
 - imma (in a confused mood)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice, but what do the numbers (1-10) on the graph mean &amp; why are there 10 columns?<br />
% is percent of rentals, i guess<br />
 &#8211; imma (in a confused mood)</p>
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		<title>By: alan jones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2396255</link>
		<dc:creator>alan jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay, I knew if I waited long enough I&#039;d see Quickflix featured somehow on Techcrunch ;-)

La gets half the story right when he/she says, &quot;...they’re making 50% of their revenue (rentals) on things outside the top 10%. That’s exactly where the long tail starts… For QF to stop supporting long tail content, not only would they kill half their business, they would likely kill their whole business.&quot;

Exactly. The other thing their LT tells them is how many copies to stock, of which products - what&#039;s sometimes referred to &quot;depth&quot; of items. Quickflix (and Netflix) use the aggregated future rental requests of customers to forecast exactly how many copies of which titles they need to have in stock to meet customer demand for rentals.

Just because Quickflix displays a product for rental, that doesn&#039;t mean it owns a copy of that product. It&#039;s putting it out there to test whether it *can* rent that product, and if so, how many copies it should have in stock to satisfy demand.

DVD titles for home-use rental vary greatly in price according to a number of factors, and an online DVD rental business can greatly influence its profitability by buying the right depth of copies, at the right time, to optimise cost of inventory.

Offering both the head and the tail of the market helps establish exactly where the most *profitable* products are for an online DVD rental business. The reason why Blockbuster&#039;s physical stores are a losing business is they are unable to forecast demand and tweak profitability - they have to stock mostly expensive blockbuster titles and then hope they can merchandise them hard enough to make a profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay, I knew if I waited long enough I&#8217;d see Quickflix featured somehow on Techcrunch <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>La gets half the story right when he/she says, &#8220;&#8230;they’re making 50% of their revenue (rentals) on things outside the top 10%. That’s exactly where the long tail starts… For QF to stop supporting long tail content, not only would they kill half their business, they would likely kill their whole business.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. The other thing their LT tells them is how many copies to stock, of which products &#8211; what&#8217;s sometimes referred to &#8220;depth&#8221; of items. Quickflix (and Netflix) use the aggregated future rental requests of customers to forecast exactly how many copies of which titles they need to have in stock to meet customer demand for rentals.</p>
<p>Just because Quickflix displays a product for rental, that doesn&#8217;t mean it owns a copy of that product. It&#8217;s putting it out there to test whether it *can* rent that product, and if so, how many copies it should have in stock to satisfy demand.</p>
<p>DVD titles for home-use rental vary greatly in price according to a number of factors, and an online DVD rental business can greatly influence its profitability by buying the right depth of copies, at the right time, to optimise cost of inventory.</p>
<p>Offering both the head and the tail of the market helps establish exactly where the most *profitable* products are for an online DVD rental business. The reason why Blockbuster&#8217;s physical stores are a losing business is they are unable to forecast demand and tweak profitability &#8211; they have to stock mostly expensive blockbuster titles and then hope they can merchandise them hard enough to make a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: willlord</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2396183</link>
		<dc:creator>willlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny Robinson&#039;s point (#17) is an interesting one:

&quot;Conversely, if I was selling a red number 5 button for my polycom soundpoint ip 550 phone, there might only be 10 people in the world who might buy that, if I’m lucky. Prior to the Internet, I might have only sold 1, but with the Internet, I’ve experienced a 1000% increase in sales. Still, selling 10 is not worth it.&quot;

This is true if your only product is red number 5 buttons but if you are are selling thousands or even millions of products each year then selling 1 button a year is fine because you&#039;ll be making thousands or millions of single digit sales every year and this will add up to significant income. Amazon and eBay have got particularly smart to this by essentially aggregating sellers and taking a cut along the way. They don&#039;t have to pay for warehousing (which is a hassle if you have to store large, obscure items that might only sell once every few months) or packaging and they don&#039;t even have to provide significant customer support. That, for me is where the long tail really comes into its own. These two can offer pretty much any product I might want even though they don&#039;t actually sell it themselves. Effectively they&#039;ve become product search engines rather than retailers in the traditional sense.

I think that we also forget that sites that sell both blockbusters and obscurities also editorialise and advertise to their users so purchases are not simply determined by individual tastes. This is important because clearly there will be greater ROI for DVD retailers who push the latest blockbuster to all their users rather than an obscure reissue. Quite simply more people have seen (and are therefore more likely to buy) Spiderman than Le Cercle Rouge. This creates a positive feedback loop that pushes these products to top of sales and review charts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Robinson&#8217;s point (#17) is an interesting one:</p>
<p>&#8220;Conversely, if I was selling a red number 5 button for my polycom soundpoint ip 550 phone, there might only be 10 people in the world who might buy that, if I’m lucky. Prior to the Internet, I might have only sold 1, but with the Internet, I’ve experienced a 1000% increase in sales. Still, selling 10 is not worth it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true if your only product is red number 5 buttons but if you are are selling thousands or even millions of products each year then selling 1 button a year is fine because you&#8217;ll be making thousands or millions of single digit sales every year and this will add up to significant income. Amazon and eBay have got particularly smart to this by essentially aggregating sellers and taking a cut along the way. They don&#8217;t have to pay for warehousing (which is a hassle if you have to store large, obscure items that might only sell once every few months) or packaging and they don&#8217;t even have to provide significant customer support. That, for me is where the long tail really comes into its own. These two can offer pretty much any product I might want even though they don&#8217;t actually sell it themselves. Effectively they&#8217;ve become product search engines rather than retailers in the traditional sense.</p>
<p>I think that we also forget that sites that sell both blockbusters and obscurities also editorialise and advertise to their users so purchases are not simply determined by individual tastes. This is important because clearly there will be greater ROI for DVD retailers who push the latest blockbuster to all their users rather than an obscure reissue. Quite simply more people have seen (and are therefore more likely to buy) Spiderman than Le Cercle Rouge. This creates a positive feedback loop that pushes these products to top of sales and review charts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjørn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2396128</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjørn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand how the statement &quot;that top one percent of Rhapsody songs is still 10,000 songs, more than what you’d find in a typical record store.&quot; can be true. If there are 10 songs per cd and they all are unique (optimistic, I know, but still) you only need 1000 cds, which I think a medium sized shop easily could have...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand how the statement &#8220;that top one percent of Rhapsody songs is still 10,000 songs, more than what you’d find in a typical record store.&#8221; can be true. If there are 10 songs per cd and they all are unique (optimistic, I know, but still) you only need 1000 cds, which I think a medium sized shop easily could have&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arona</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2396121</link>
		<dc:creator>Arona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Academics are academic.

When looking at the longtail, don&#039;t look at &quot;social media&quot; - films / music.

Look at other items to get the picture.

DUH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Academics are academic.</p>
<p>When looking at the longtail, don&#8217;t look at &#8220;social media&#8221; &#8211; films / music.</p>
<p>Look at other items to get the picture.</p>
<p>DUH!</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Almondine</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/02/poking-holes-in-the-long-tail-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-2396120</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Almondine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Long Tail is a powerlaw curve - demand falls off exponentially.  Comparing the obscure to the blockbusters results in very small numbers when shown as percent.  

A thousandth of a percent of $500 million is $5000 - one is the take for Indiana Jones 4, the other is a decent side income for a personal hobby creating how-to videos online.  

Even at a millionth of a percent, $5 in ad revenue is more than it costs to deliver that content online.  Aggregate that over billions of videos and you&#039;ve got Youtube.  Maybe HBR can look into them next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Long Tail is a powerlaw curve &#8211; demand falls off exponentially.  Comparing the obscure to the blockbusters results in very small numbers when shown as percent.  </p>
<p>A thousandth of a percent of $500 million is $5000 &#8211; one is the take for Indiana Jones 4, the other is a decent side income for a personal hobby creating how-to videos online.  </p>
<p>Even at a millionth of a percent, $5 in ad revenue is more than it costs to deliver that content online.  Aggregate that over billions of videos and you&#8217;ve got Youtube.  Maybe HBR can look into them next.</p>
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