Comments on: No XMPP: What Is Twitter Protecting?

By: abhi

abhi — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:52:59 +0000

This is strange right?

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Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:51:28 +0000

[...] and did a node/hub based architecture with a good toolkit, things would be much different. [From No XMPP: What Is Twitter Protecting?] You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not [...]

By: Stephen Paul Weber

Stephen Paul Weber — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:57:32 +0000

Even the one-way IM is no good. Previously, if I *was not* online on my IM it would go to my SMS, and would only go to IM if I *was* online. Now, if I enable IM, it goes only to IM - even if I’m not online - and so I miss stuff and get it all at once later. Not the desired behaviour at all.

By: joshua

joshua — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:24:15 +0000

indeed plurk is catching on and is now my favorite.

By: Rushabh Choksi

Rushabh Choksi — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:22:14 +0000

Twitter is now becoming a huge turn off…people are now switching over to other options like freindfeeds, plurk, etc.

By: jargon

jargon — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:39:01 +0000

I second #13. I called out Gillmor on using wording that borders on being technically incorrect, and using too much jargon to appeal to a sense of authority.

Gillmor deleting comments that are a) grammatically correct b) not link-spam c) thoughtful (even if in a critical-of-Gillmor way), to me, is against the very spirit on which TechCrunch was founded.

Mike, are you listening? Why doesn’t Gillmor follow by your example? I’ve seen dozens of times when you were criticized (mostly wrongly), and you never deleted comments (to my knowledge), and always took the high ground to explain your stance instead. In my opinion, that’s largely what accounts for TC’s dominant position today.

Why isn’t Steve required to abide by the same rules? How about leaving critical comments intact, and either a) ignoring them or b) taking the high ground with a thoughtful (or at bare minimum dismissive) stance?

By: chloe

chloe — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:49:46 +0000

I love how Gillmor deletes comments.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:38:08 +0000

Time to enjoy burning Twitter investor money. That’s all VC money about.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:21:55 +0000

I don’t understand why someone else couldn’t use the Twitter API to grab all of the public timeline and be an intermediary between Twitter users and Twitter for track purposes.

By: Richard

Richard — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:50:33 +0000

I wrote about this in my blog last May in a post called Pull Dressed as Push.

Twitter supports XMPP, with the low performance HTTP option, as described in their API documents. Thus you do have to poll Twitter to get data, which no doubt kills their server. Twitter should provide the high performance XMPP option and they may be doing it for their special friends. At least that is what I would do if I were in their shoes.

By: Vlad

Vlad — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:37:50 +0000

Is TechCrunch just becoming link site to TechCrunch IT and other properties? Why don’t you publish entire article?

By: Joe Bowers

Joe Bowers — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:46:39 +0000

@4: Thomas Hawk, holy crap, you’re still relevant?

Twitter isn’t protecting anything. They’re just lazy, incompetent, or both.

By: sikantis

sikantis — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:03:17 +0000

Twitter and FriendFeed are both great, just keep going!

By: Steve Gillmor

Steve Gillmor — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:56:51 +0000

Thomas

I’ve been there all along. I just use Twitter as the input method.

By: Steve Gillmor

Steve Gillmor — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:55:08 +0000

Geoff

The basis of their lock-in is the assent of the users. Once the service is restored, they will have to move the slider somewhere between nothing and republishing to keep their developers and therefore their users. Track, however, is a service they completely control.

By: Thomas Hawk

Thomas Hawk — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:49:22 +0000

What’s all this talk about Twitter Steve? I thought you were close to coming over to the dark side and joining us on FriendFeed.

http://friendfeed.com/e/9d8837.....-to-being/

By: Geoff Meredith

Geoff Meredith — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:41:55 +0000

I’ve been wondering if what we are seeing from Twitter is actually a business move with technical issues as the cover. There has been mention that the full public timeline XMPP pub/sub functionality, when it returns, will not be the open service that it once was but one that will require a more established business deal with republishing restrictions. I’ve always wondered why they were making the full public timeline available as that is the basis of their lock-in. It would be just too easy for someone else to take over the conversations with stronger technology in an “embrace and extend” move.

By: David Damore

David Damore — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:29:11 +0000

Looking forward to the restoration of two-way IM. Cool feature.

It also appears that Twitter is clearing out spammer accounts. lost about 11% of my followers today. when losing them in the past it has been one or two, not 13 or 14 in a day. Had some feedback from another Twitter user stating that they saw a similar occurrence.

The followers that are now presumably gone, generally follow 10 x more people than they have followers. Sometimes they follow 10,000 + people. At the same time they have a few hundred followers. On top of that they only have a few posts, usually containing a url to a site. Not sure if following that many people puts a lot of demand [stress] on Twitter but it probably will not hurt to remove these accounts.

What are your thoughts?

By: silicon valley dropout

silicon valley dropout — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:18:44 +0000

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