heh i saw that guy at the y! gym every day, always wondered who he was. good luck dude.

Good for yahoo. Focus on engineering now. There is nothing much in Yahoo to have deals.

This is actually is a good thing for yahoo. corp dev people like kent goldman are not held accountable for horrible deals like bix.com, kenet works and adinterax. he is useless along with the other corp dev m&a people. it is quite humorous to say that yahoo lost one of their top deal guys when he didn’t contribute to anything good at yahoo since he started. so by saying this was a loss just shows you know little about yahoo (let me guess, you got your rumor from kent goldman). yahoo is terrible at integrating acquisitions since they hire these “MBA” cronies kent who have little to no understanding of technology or any business acumen. to say this guy is an executive is a joke, he is another “Director” with 1 or NO direct reports.

Here come the over sensitive yahoos…

Off-topic: Mike can we get middle-click functionality back? It disappeared when the header changed (never been available on TCIT).

I interviewed at Yahoo 2 days ago via the telephone. I was not good enough at Javascript to get the job on the YUI team. Javascript is really the one language that I google right before I code or that I use code complete for.

At any rate, they lost 2 people because I’m about to go work for a better employer next week.

You really need to stop classifying Directors at YHOO as ‘execs.’ Titles at Yahoo! are extremely inflated. Directors are basically sr/group managers at other large companies like GOOG or MSFT. Yahoo Directors have very little power and manage teams usually the size of 0-3 people (with 0s more being most). It is silly to keep mentioning what these middle mgr folks are up to, and to add them in your tally of 100s of yahoo ‘execs’ leaving is plain silly. If you add up sr/group managers and higher leaving every year at other large orgs, you will come up with a similar tally i am sure.

I agree .. i would hardly classify Directors as “execs” .. inflated!!!!

@5: Mwahahahaha, you have written how many gigs of code for your world-changing search engine, and you can’t code a line of JavaScript !??? Oh man, I think they didn’t lose much.

I agree.

I think in Yahoo, the directors are usually people reporting at the depth of 5 from the CEO. Assuming a conservative estimate of 4 people reporting at each level, this boils down to 4^5 or around 250 directors!!!

I would not call them top execs at all!!

Must be a tiring job for the Yahoo put a happy spin on everything people.

mike-get your facts straight please. directors @yahoo != execs.

I used to work with kent and he’s by no means a top deal guy @ Yahoo .

If I remember correctly he has ZERO or at most 1 direct report.

There are at least 1000s of directors at the company. Maybe by the time I leave, you have to do a post for me too :p

ron mexico with the critical beatdown. word.

can we give Yahoo a break? Plus this is not news. For every one person who leaves, they are a few more on the market they can hire. No one is irreplaceable.

Another Y! exec(or director,who cares !) gone……
Looks like other corps are sucking up Y! like never before.(By offering execs fat salaries)….
But i still believe on Jerry….He will survive this shit

Another executive has left.

Yahoo! Director of Maintenance Engineering has left the company and has joined the alumni group. This makes it about 120 executives that have left Yahoo! since 2007.

This Director was seen going into a McDonald’s in Burbank. We will contact McDonald’s corporate to find out if there is connection.

Onward with the anti-Yahoo Jihad!
Mike, you’re a true windbag. How long must we suffer a rich boy ex-lawyer’s gossip posting and ‘analysis’.

http://searchengineland.com/080620-094239.php

OMG, the rats are leaving. the rate are leaving! the ship must be sinking.

except i doubt the ship’s really sinking. no doubt these are opportunistic rats though.

Google is going to crap yahoo sooner or later.

mike, any comment about the fact that you are including simple directors in your list of top managers at yahoo? it’d be nice if you acknowledged the mistake, and rectified.

and i agree with the majority of comments. mr. goldman is a mba-type typical corporate player at yahoo, where he looked (or tried to look) as a banker. No direct reports (or maybe 1, put there just to justify his promotion by his bosses), no record of great deals (or, record of bad deals)… please stop reporting guys like this one are leaving, or soon we’ll have to read news about more mediocre people leaving –and here i will refrain from saying names, but just think about most/any middle-manager

Surely good for yahoo…but what next?

No offense intended to Kent, but based on manyt years of relatively poor performance one might ask how many Yahoo execs it was taking to screw in the lightbulbs. I’m actuallly *encouraged* by the forced overhaul as I think it may be a good way to build new teams free from the old baggage.

Next ?

1. Tell the engineers that executives leaving actually a good thing. Yahoo won’t have to pay them anymore.
2. Don’t recruit anyone (or very few ppl.) to replace them.
3. Get the best engineers together and explain them what is happening and make them situational leaders. Let the nerds takeover !!
4. Come out with a world beating product ! Make few useful early stage acquisitions .

In a year , Microsoft would be offering $40 dollar per share ! Take it from me !

Yahoo is a good training ground for highly corporate and technical position. So I guess, it’s just fine . They can still get people that will meet their qualification. For Kent, good luck to his new endeavor.

Good point Saswat.

Microsoft was a great company when it was being led by the nerds..Bill Gates (around 1995). MBA gives you the license to bulls***.

I think, nerds have the competence to become not only the product developer but visionaries. Yahoo, give more control to the real talents and see how they can achieve wonders.

Let’s see what happens at the August 1st shareholders meeting and the next two quarterly results to see where things are headed with Yahoo and if Jerry Wang’s tenure is close to ending.

Check out my Yahoo posts at http://is-forum.blogspot.com/

Stinks that Kent had to leave, they will find someone good to replace his place.

- http://easysummermoney.blogspot.com/

I guess one needs to be out to trade his/her Yahoo! shares as he/she wishes. In some case, the packet is so large that even being out without a job is worth more that remaining a well paid Yahoo-cutive.

so what… let them leave. Google should go through the same transition. Yahoo will previal.

Chris said…
I interviewed at Yahoo 2 days ago via the telephone. I was not good enough at Javascript to get the job on the YUI team. Javascript is really the one language that I google right before I code or that I use code complete for.

In fact you’re not good enough at anything at all. This is based on your admission here at TechCrunch time & time again that you’re only good in cutting & pasting HTML scripting codes for useless ME TOO Web bullshit 2.0 social networking software.

Have you managed to learn about data-mining/machine learning yet? What I mean to say, is if you had the chance to read Dr. Ronny Kohavi’s papers on data-mining yet from the reference site I quoted in my past messages? If you do, then that would have given you new understanding of a domain that is highly demanded in Silicon Valley, you know, the domain of search engine development, business intelligence, predictive analytics and so forth. So, start develop some real software rather than cutting & pasting useless HTML (or PHP) codes.

MIKE. THE SKY IS FALLING ! ! !

Could someone please tell me, what is Yahoo’s Web Strategy. For all the reach the Company has, it seems to be going nowhere.

In the early days of Google, critics complained about Google’s apparent lack of any future Web Strategy and its nonchalance approach to analysts. But in the past few years Google has shown everyone that their current and future Web Strategy is Search, Ads and Apps.

To me, Yahoo’s problem is that they still want to use a Web Portal approach with a range of hit and miss Web Services. But in using this bloated Web Portal strategy, they are are not effectively promoting their most popular Web Services, such as Flickr for example.
I truly believe that if Yahoo was to make their opening Start Page less bloated and more sparse - with only their most popular Web Services listed here, Yahoo Search: Yahoo Mail: Yahoo Maps: Yahoo Portal: MyYahoo: Flickr:
then the Yahoo Brand can once again become a major Web Player.

The Portal approach, as used by both AOL and MSN, is so last century. Yahoo needs to start trimming away at its excess fat and become more leaner and meaner.
Plus the Execs at Yahoo should know that running to Google shows a total lack of internal vision and Web Strategy.
Remember Yahoo, as a public listed company, you can run but you can’t hide.

Chris, you freakin’ idiot:

http://www.odesk.com/jobs/Attr.....source=rss

Techcrunch has become a junk blog, this aren’t news who the fuk is reading your bullsh!t about yahoo every day, yahoo suck, yahoo blows me Yahoo Pays Techcrunch, what hapend with the real news? I know you get payed to much and you becamed a fat assh0le

Techcrunch DIE SOON

mike, you should by now know that directors at yahoo are like middle manager - how can u call them exec? —- leave yahoo and jerry alone … its better u write an article on why u r against yahoo? you’re maliciously after them from a long time - we readers are not foolish, we know that microsoft is one of the sponsor for your website and may be that’s the reason u r kissing their ass … please STOP !

This guy is NOT one of their top deal guys. That’s factually incorrect. Michael Arrington is grasping again. The TMZ of start-ups. This is a gossip rag and has little credibility left.

OFF Topic: Looks like you’ve implemented some new features. I’m referring at the top toolbar. I really appreciate the search feature - now it is quite accessible.

I mentioned this in a post of mine regarding the UX. You still got work to do on the user experience side but Kudos for this approach

@35 Pasan: Ditto. TC, The TMZ of start-ups. This is a gossip rag and has little credibility left…
Why do I keep reading? Simple: because of the intelligent comments by readers, not because of the crapola Mike writes.
Mike, are yo really a lawyer? No wonder your “reports” have such a sewer quality!

god bless yahoo!

Most VPs at yahoo would be dir-lvl at goog or msft. Yahoo has more VPs than goog + msft combined. It’s a media company.

“In fact you’re not good enough at anything at all. This is based on your admission here at TechCrunch time & time again that you’re only good in cutting & pasting HTML scripting codes for useless ME TOO Web bullshit 2.0 social networking software.”

Javascript is unstable. The logic behind the runtime is shoddy at best, and each browser has it’s own implementation. There is no good breakpoint, and spy tool for the language.

Javascript and CSS are 2 languages where you absolutely just have to know the quirks of the different runtimes, and I do not. I expect things to be logical and make sense because I came from a C/C++/Java background.

So no, I am not a guru at Javascript. I am however coding my own widget toolkit now. So at least I will be a little better. I am still good at Java/C/C++ and of course PHP.

I agree. god bless yahoo!

TechCrunch has now lost 99% of it’s credibility. Are you on drugs?..wait, no you’re loosing another leak and this is your way of helping him get press. Kent may be an “ok” guy but he’s not a top deal maker. While he’s an “ok” guy, he’s no top exec but he was one of Brad’s stooges from C&C and this post is just another nail in the coffin that we know Arrington is getting his news from Brad and his stooges.

@Falafulu Fisi,

You say you’re on the JRE team. Next time you write some java code, consider what would happen if people were yelling at you telling you your code must ALSO work in gcj. And when it doesn’t for some reason you are told that the bugs in gcj are actually features and you must make sure that you program in those features.

Or that all your flash movies have to work on gnash?

I didn’t come from a spaghetti background so it’s pretty hard for me to adapt. PHP makes enough sense and is bug free enough to make me happy, plus Zend and others make decent debugging tools.

yahoo has 140 employees, and some people come in and some other leave, what the f*king wrong with that? Pathetic!

And for those who want to know some more about Kent Goldman do jog this track. (Jog to the very end to land back automatically on this post):

http://www.jogtheweb.com/reade.....rackId=158

@44,

37signals.com/svn/posts/83-traffic-vs-employees

They have about 10k total world wide. That’s not counting contractors. This page is from 06. There must be some fresher stats. I just don’t have the time to research it.

Companies like Yahoo are always over-staffed at the executive level. It’s just the inevitable tendancy of any large organisation to keep adding headcount, often because there’s no one to say “no, you can’t hire more people right now.” Yahoo is bloated with VP’s and Directors.

It’s always funny how companies can have mass desertions or layoffs and the organisation continues to function as well — if not better — than before. So consider these departures to be highly desirable shedding of dead wood. And don’t argue that these are “valuable” executives. These are the very execs who’ve caused Yahoo to be the disaster that it is. The more that leave the better, and the money saved on their over-blown saleries is a nice additional bonus for shareholders.

“I expect things to be logical and make sense because I came from a C/C++/Java background.”

Ah yes, because once you have C++, you can write GUIs/system services/utilities for all versions of Macs, Windows, and Linux, all from one code base without having to learn the quirks of each one. Give me a break.

Dude, you spew bullshit. Instead of asking for credibility, why don’t you just go out and earn it.

@48

I wrote a utility for glitz and cairo that was based on AIGLX and Xgl, and there were hundreds of #ifdef macros. There can be some major preprocessing stuff if you are targeting many architectures with your C/C++ code, BUT

That’s why java became so popular, and why PHP is popular ect…
Write once run everywhere eventually took over our application programming.

This never happened with javascript. Why? Because Firefox is based on Netscape and because Microsoft uses their own products in order to hinder and try to create market dominance through fake standards.

With that said. Mike Arrington, CVSDude has been working badly and has been down ALL WEEK. Can you please do a report on the CVSdude problems just as you report constantly on twitter problems. 41,833 commercial projects are currently being locked out from being updated right now.

This is worse than anything on twitter.

maybe a new post?