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By: JLP

JLP — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:23:34 +0000

From a development standpoint, there are a lot more than four mobile OS’s (and other options)–and some come in various flavors. Openness isn’t the only factor to consider when you are a developer, especially a microISV. I started a conversation on the subject in a recent blog post: http://creative...tware-platforms

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By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:30:44 +0000

There is also a mobile OS that is truly open: OpenMoko (http://wiki.ope.../wiki/Main_Page). I think it’s worth mentioning since they will begin shipping the Neo Freerunner soon.

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By: Chandru

Chandru — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:00:48 +0000

Are you kidding?

iPhone and openness? They are the opposite poles of earth.

We can’t even develop and deploy programs for iPhone without getting into the tightly bolted jail called app store. Even Windows Mobile is a lot more open than that.

Anyway future Symbian, Android and LiMo are what can be called real open-source mobile OSes. iPhone and its Mac OS X are nowhere in vicinity to these when it comes to openness.

By: waakee.com

waakee.com — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:34:49 +0000

个手机操作系统的状况 – The State of Open Mobile OSes…

Open operating systems, for most folks, means that the operating
system is essentially free. The average computer user knows that Linux
is free, as in beer, while Windows costs money. The case is the same
for mobile OSes although, until very recently,…

By: FredCavazza.net » Rachat de Symbian par Nokia : le monde du mobile à nouveau bouleversé

Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:27:18 +0000

[...] Donc si l’on récapitule, ça nous fait 4 acteurs de taille sur le marché des OS mobiles : Nokia avec Symbian, Google avec Android, Apple avec l’iPhone 2 et Microsoft avec Windows Mobile. Pour vous y retrouver, je vous recommande cet article : The State of Open Mobile OS. [...]

By: Alexander Matthus

Alexander Matthus — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:29:20 +0000

The level of misinformation in this article is surprising, to say the least.

To sum up, Apple and Google = good guys, MS and Nokia = bad guys. Lift your pompoms for the good guys, cheerleaders! Oh gee, we don’t nearly have enough of that kind of mindless fanboism already, do we.

Seriously though, Android might or might not be the next coming of Christ, we’re just not there yet and I’d wager it was useless to include that platform for a “real world” comparison. The iPhone isn’t open at all, being able to make little widgets for it doesn’t qualify for the “open platform” title.

And to echo others, why were Blackberry and Palm left out?

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metavital's me2DAY — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:59:24 +0000

meta의 생각…

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By: Eric Atkins

Eric Atkins — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:40:11 +0000

By the way, Nokia sells more handsets in a week than the total number of iPhones sold to date.

By: NLS

NLS — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:13:31 +0000

Really terrible article indeed.
It got printed in WP??? Well I could get the Pulitzer price then.

Anyway, we are going forward (forward?) to a much stricter world only hidden behind the curtains of supposed “open source”. This goes for all aforementioned OSes and platforms. Do realize this fact.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:19:43 +0000

This article is terrible. I can’t believe it got printed in the Washington Post. One only needs to glance through the comments above to get a sense of the numerous numerous inaccuracies and shortcomings of this article. Sigh.

By: Jimmy 2

Jimmy 2 — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:51:39 +0000

“As it stands now, though, handset manufacturers that make use of the Symbian operating system are only provided with certain parts of the source code.”

FYI, manufacturers are already provided with all of the Symbian source. It’s ISVs who aren’t.

I won’t bother pointing out the other inaccuracies in the above article.

By: Randy Ksar

Randy Ksar — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:38:57 +0000

good summary but you left out the Palm OS. Care to comment on that? Any learnings we can get from the Palm OS back when it was hugely popular for developers (2000-2002).

By: Avatar

Avatar — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:57:41 +0000

err.. you can develop in Windows Mobile with C++, .Net. but it don`t ends there. you can develop in Java and now in Silverlight…i don`t know why java and Silverlight was left out of the write up.

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:04:26 +0000

I see that lots of people are attacking the idea of iPhone’s App Store. However, the reality is the opposite of what most people would expect. Sure, with other Mobile OSes, you can create and distribute your apps anywhere you want. But how are the users supposed to find them on the web, if they don’t know what it’s called, or even if such thing could exist. App Store provides an easy way for users to find applications built for iPhone. For users, there’s no goolging around looking for apps only to find a bunch of news articles. For developers, you are guaranteed that if you write an app, it will be seen be all the iPhone users around the world and used by many. You can argue whatever you want to argue, but App Store is what really separates iPhone from other mobile programming platform.

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By: Viral Tarpara

Viral Tarpara — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:57:18 +0000

I would like to state that Microsoft is way more open than the iPhone especially when you consider it as a programming platform. In terms of source code openness, if you are going to classify iPhone as “limited,” I would argue WinMo should be “limited” as well based off the plethora of shared source licensing opportunities as well as Academic open-source licensing which pretty much give’s all the code for the kernal away with the exception of Plug&Play bits.

You should correct the tabel and make WinMo, limited. If you really want to get technical, iphone should also be reclassified as “closed.”

http://www.micr...ng/default.mspx
please see Academic and CE licensing.

By: Marco Almondine

Marco Almondine — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:46:49 +0000

No OS costs the *carriers* anything, as they pass the cost of subsidizing handsets through to the customer with an expensive long-term contract. Also, an open-source or free OS is not necessary for innovation. A Windows PC, for all its shortcomings, is and has been the leading prototyping platform for two decades.

What is helpful is when anyone can afford developer tools and doesn’t have to get permission or pay fees to create new software and distribute it to anyone at any price they see fit. The Apple model is nothing like that regardless of the $0 price of the SDK.

Carriers do have a problem where their networks are not ready to handle exponential growth in data usage. So they must choke innovation in the handset that assumes bandwidth is free, until they figure out how to manage constantly upgrading their network capacity without sinking profitability. Data has been nearly an afterthought for carriers until the iPhone, so despite a decade of growth in consumer use of the Internet, they are just getting started on learning to deal with this problem.

> Android…It costs nothing for carriers to use…

By: Mogilny

Mogilny — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:44:46 +0000

Hahahah… now i know why the TC network has so many page views per uniques…

this article was also posted on crunchgear and there is another “post” that links to the same article.

http://www.crun...le-os-openness/
http://mobilecr...le-os-openness/

If the post had some real content, i wouldn’t have complained. Is this a sign that TC is spreading its butter too thin with these “verticals”? Yawn

By: BlackBerry OS

BlackBerry OS — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:38:27 +0000

How can you include Android which isn’t even on the market and not include the BlackBerry OS with 15 million+ users and thousands of third party apps and its OWN SDK developed for it.

By: Mr. Gunn

Mr. Gunn — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:05:27 +0000

Yes, Surur, you are correct. The iphone doesn’t qualify as open, even if OSX is the underlying platform. All you can do as a developer is provide a bookmark to a mobile-optimized website and hope that someone at Apple approves it as worthy for distribution through the only existing and also closed channel – itunes.

People are quite busy trying to trash Symbian for some reason. It’s old and stable and though Android might be better in the long run, it does a pretty good job now, and you can self-sign.

By: lordhong

lordhong — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:03:00 +0000

Blackberry OS is so inferior comparing to iPhone OS X and Android. It cannot even stand up straight for a fight. Same for ancient Palm OS. The OS architecture is not designed for modern mobile usage. So funny than Android does not even have a real device out yet on the market, yet Nokia is scrambling to put their crap together…