Comments on: Hoodeo Tries To Match You With Your Ideal Neighborhood http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:07:48 -0800 hourly 1 By: Kim http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2407118 Kim Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:15:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2407118 I heard of propertymaps.com several months ago and have found it to be much better than the other real estate 2.0 site. I'm with Ed, a raving fan. I heard of propertymaps.com several months ago and have found it to be much better than the other real estate 2.0 site. I’m with Ed, a raving fan.

]]> By: Spencer Rascoff http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2393884 Spencer Rascoff Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:34:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2393884 To Commenter #25 (Ed Peaslee): Are you affiliated with PropertyMaps in any way? I see you commenting in various places on the web about how great propertymaps is. It's a little bit curious, especially since I've never heard anyone else ever mention this company before. If you're just a big fan of that website, then great. But if you're affiliated with them and you're not disclosing your affiliation when you leave comments like this, I think that's a little sketchy. On this blog (http://aliceisthekey.blogspot.com/2008/06/does-zillowcom-provide-valuable-info.html) you wrote: "Ed Peaslee said... I've been using the site by PropertyMaps lately and it shows up to date info on properties and foreclosure homes. It's a Google Maps/MLS/RealtyTrac mashup and has been a lot of help." And then here (http://activerain.com/blogsview/571051/Why-Does-the-National) someone named Ed Carr wrote a suspiciously similar comment: "There's another site out there now that a lot of people are using that many realtors see as competition as well. It's a MLS/Google Maps/RealtyTrac mashup by PropertyMaps 06/30/2008 10:01 AM by Ed Carr" And then here (http://sphinn.com/story/55504) someone named estewart6 wrote another similar comment: "I've been using PropertyMaps lately anyways and I've really liked it more." - Spencer from Zillow (a real estate website) To Commenter #25 (Ed Peaslee):
Are you affiliated with PropertyMaps in any way? I see you commenting in various places on the web about how great propertymaps is. It’s a little bit curious, especially since I’ve never heard anyone else ever mention this company before. If you’re just a big fan of that website, then great. But if you’re affiliated with them and you’re not disclosing your affiliation when you leave comments like this, I think that’s a little sketchy.

On this blog (http://aliceist...uable-info.html) you wrote:
“Ed Peaslee said…
I’ve been using the site by PropertyMaps lately and it shows up to date info on properties and foreclosure homes. It’s a Google Maps/MLS/RealtyTrac mashup and has been a lot of help.”

And then here (http://activera...es-the-National) someone named Ed Carr wrote a suspiciously similar comment: “There’s another site out there now that a lot of people are using that many realtors see as competition as well. It’s a MLS/Google Maps/RealtyTrac mashup by PropertyMaps

06/30/2008 10:01 AM by Ed Carr”

And then here (http://sphinn.com/story/55504) someone named estewart6 wrote another similar comment: “I’ve been using PropertyMaps lately anyways and I’ve really liked it more.”

- Spencer from Zillow (a real estate website)

]]> By: Owen Johnson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2391516 Owen Johnson Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:00:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2391516 Hoodie does poorly what a site like http://neighborhoodscout.com/ does well. It will be see if they can get their matching up to snuff fast enough to compete. Hoodie does poorly what a site like http://neighborhoodscout.com/ does well. It will be see if they can get their matching up to snuff fast enough to compete.

]]> By: Ed Peaslee http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2391255 Ed Peaslee Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:57:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2391255 I tried out Hoodeo and like the interface and idea but got only one result for the info I put in which seemed like common results. I don't want to move to Texas... They'll improve it a bit and it will be a great tool. What I did is found a neighborhood then went to <a href="http://www.propertymaps.com/directory/mls/usa" title="PropertyMaps" rel="nofollow">PropertyMaps</a> to find more homes and foreclosure options. It's a google maps/mls/realtytrac site that has good info on it. I tried out Hoodeo and like the interface and idea but got only one result for the info I put in which seemed like common results. I don’t want to move to Texas… They’ll improve it a bit and it will be a great tool. What I did is found a neighborhood then went to PropertyMaps to find more homes and foreclosure options. It’s a google maps/mls/realtytrac site that has good info on it.

]]> By: Tony http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2387319 Tony Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:54:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2387319 I have to second http://www.findyourspot.com/ and http://www.city-data.com/forum/ I have to second http://www.findyourspot.com/ and http://www.city...data.com/forum/

]]> By: You SEO partner http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2387276 You SEO partner Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:11:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2387276 Sweet Sweet, I am in the market to move very soon, I will def be using this site. Sweet Sweet, I am in the market to move very soon, I will def be using this site.

]]> By: Jen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2387112 Jen Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:25:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2387112 Hoodeo couldn't even be bothered to find me a match. "We were unable to match you to any neighborhoods based on the answers you provided in your hoodeo profile." Hoodeo couldn’t even be bothered to find me a match.

“We were unable to match you to any neighborhoods based on the answers you provided in your hoodeo profile.”

]]> By: Doodool Tallah http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386752 Doodool Tallah Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:52:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386752 I selected Lawyer, and it told me my ideal place was Hell. I selected Lawyer, and it told me my ideal place was Hell.

]]> By: Dick http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386707 Dick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:11:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386707 @Moses... lol, same exact as me. What the hell is this garbage? Decent idea, but awful execution. You'd think the commute would come into the picture somewhere. Yeah, I really think that driving 45 miles to work in LA is a fantastic recommendation. I'm packing my shit up tomorrow and moving to La Puente because the robot told me to. Imagine someone that uses this and doesn't know the general area at all. Man are they gonna be pissed when they end up living in Compton. @Moses… lol, same exact as me.

What the hell is this garbage? Decent idea, but awful execution. You’d think the commute would come into the picture somewhere. Yeah, I really think that driving 45 miles to work in LA is a fantastic recommendation. I’m packing my shit up tomorrow and moving to La Puente because the robot told me to.

Imagine someone that uses this and doesn’t know the general area at all. Man are they gonna be pissed when they end up living in Compton.

]]> By: Brian Ward http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386688 Brian Ward Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:49:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386688 I have found http://www.findyourspot.com/ very helpful - it has the smarts that Hoodeo doesn't! I have found http://www.findyourspot.com/ very helpful – it has the smarts that Hoodeo doesn’t!

]]> By: Tom S. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386675 Tom S. Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:30:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386675 So... Javan. I was just wondering. How'd you come up with the colors? So… Javan. I was just wondering. How’d you come up with the colors?

]]> By: magixman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386643 magixman Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:24:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386643 A perfect example of a problem that cannot be solved with the available data. There is no data field for "friendly to young upwardly mobile tech heads". So for now folks will just have to read forums and sort out posters with like minded views. A perfect example of a problem that cannot be solved with the available data. There is no data field for “friendly to young upwardly mobile tech heads”. So for now folks will just have to read forums and sort out posters with like minded views.

]]> By: Falafulu Fisi http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386641 Falafulu Fisi Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:19:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386641 Hi Jason Kincaid, I've just submitted a comment and it just disappeared. I think it goes into your spamfolder, since my comment contains 2 HTML links. If you think that my comment is informative to readers on this thread and worth publishing, then please do so. Hi Jason Kincaid, I’ve just submitted a comment and it just disappeared. I think it goes into your spamfolder, since my comment contains 2 HTML links. If you think that my comment is informative to readers on this thread and worth publishing, then please do so.

]]> By: Falafulu Fisi http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386639 Falafulu Fisi Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:16:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386639 Jason Kincaid said... <i>If Hoodeo can fix their matching algorithm</i> I am not sure whether Hoodeo uses a memory algorithm such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case-based_reasoning" rel="nofollow">CBR</a> (Case Based Reasoning), which is very poor use of CBR (or inappropriate use). CBR has been used in real estate property searches to match the closest (nearest) target property to the target (ie, the queried), specified by the user. The results is then ranked from the most similar to the least and obviously the top rank is the most closest to what a user wants. Memory search (CBR , etc...) is different from SQL based search which is more problematic because of its matching by using boolean logic, ie, an item is either match or don't match. CBR matching (which is not boolean but it is based on similarity) would rank items from the most relevant match to the least. For developers at Hoodeo, here are some interesting books on CBR from one of the world leading expert on this field here in New Zealand (Dr. Ian Watson). These are available at Amazon, so just go to Watson's site (see below) and click on it to see a few CBR related titles, listed there. Those books have detail of how to develop a CBR engine. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ian/publications.html Also Dr. Watson consults to the industry on the subject. Jason Kincaid said…
If Hoodeo can fix their matching algorithm

I am not sure whether Hoodeo uses a memory algorithm such as CBR (Case Based Reasoning), which is very poor use of CBR (or inappropriate use). CBR has been used in real estate property searches to match the closest (nearest) target property to the target (ie, the queried), specified by the user. The results is then ranked from the most similar to the least and obviously the top rank is the most closest to what a user wants. Memory search (CBR , etc…) is different from SQL based search which is more problematic because of its matching by using boolean logic, ie, an item is either match or don’t match. CBR matching (which is not boolean but it is based on similarity) would rank items from the most relevant match to the least.

For developers at Hoodeo, here are some interesting books on CBR from one of the world leading expert on this field here in New Zealand (Dr. Ian Watson). These are available at Amazon, so just go to Watson’s site (see below) and click on it to see a few CBR related titles, listed there. Those books have detail of how to develop a CBR engine.

http://www.cs.a...blications.html

Also Dr. Watson consults to the industry on the subject.

]]> By: ishmelev http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386566 ishmelev Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:26:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386566 Hello everybody: I have prepared the presentation with “10 Fundamental Lacks of Social Networking Business”. If you have time, please follow for a link to check it: http://www.slideshare.net/ishmelev/code-web-20-461604/ Hello everybody:

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]]> By: joshua cyr http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386464 joshua cyr Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:18:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386464 The problem with sites like this (which told me I have NO matches) and top 10 places to live from money magazine etc, is that it is based on some good info and not enough quality of life factors that are not measurable but very important. Case in point, people would NEVER pick Manchester NH vs Portsmouth NH unless it had to do with commute or some smaller neighborhood community. I am sure everyone here can think of similar situations in their state. Lots of other instances where on paper things look good, but it's only because bedroom communities near by that keep crime stats down, or home value stats high for a given demographic region that the sites or magazines measure. The problem with sites like this (which told me I have NO matches) and top 10 places to live from money magazine etc, is that it is based on some good info and not enough quality of life factors that are not measurable but very important. Case in point, people would NEVER pick Manchester NH vs Portsmouth NH unless it had to do with commute or some smaller neighborhood community. I am sure everyone here can think of similar situations in their state.

Lots of other instances where on paper things look good, but it’s only because bedroom communities near by that keep crime stats down, or home value stats high for a given demographic region that the sites or magazines measure.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Hoodeoがあなたを理想の近隣と引き合わせようとしている http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386448 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Hoodeoがあなたを理想の近隣と引き合わせようとしている Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:53:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386448 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: whoopie http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386447 whoopie Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:52:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386447 oh jesus folks, just get in your car and drive around. we're talking about the biggest single investment you will make, a home. oh jesus folks, just get in your car and drive around. we’re talking about the biggest single investment you will make, a home.

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386425 John Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:35:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386425 I think the concept is great. It's too bad they couldn't have got it right. No doubt that someone will, especially after all these comments and your post. I think the concept is great. It’s too bad they couldn’t have got it right. No doubt that someone will, especially after all these comments and your post.

]]> By: Cory from Dental Heroes http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386419 Cory from Dental Heroes Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:25:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386419 Execution seems to be a big problem. Interesting concept, however. I guess this just goes to show that proper planning and programming should not be overlooked. Execution seems to be a big problem. Interesting concept, however. I guess this just goes to show that proper planning and programming should not be overlooked.

]]> By: Moses http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386418 Moses Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:25:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386418 I'm 28, run a start-up, and come from Manhattan. I live in LA. Hoodeo just matched with La Puente, California. Here is the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Puente%2C_CA Needs some more work, I think... I’m 28, run a start-up, and come from Manhattan. I live in LA.

Hoodeo just matched with La Puente, California. Here is the wikipedia page: http://en.wikip...La_Puente%2C_CA

Needs some more work, I think…

]]> By: Derrick http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386410 Derrick Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:19:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386410 No where close to interesting results. Regardless of what you put into the system (income, amount you are willing to spend on a home, etc) the results can not differentiate a $2Million home from a $510K home because they lump everything over $500K in the same category. So, if you were looking for a $2.5M home, you would be shown target locations from everything over $500K. You could get much better results with a travel guide and any one of the existing realtor sites! Did this really just launch today? No where close to interesting results. Regardless of what you put into the system (income, amount you are willing to spend on a home, etc) the results can not differentiate a $2Million home from a $510K home because they lump everything over $500K in the same category. So, if you were looking for a $2.5M home, you would be shown target locations from everything over $500K. You could get much better results with a travel guide and any one of the existing realtor sites! Did this really just launch today?

]]> By: Eric Fredericks http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386407 Eric Fredericks Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:18:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386407 #1 was Pittsburgh for me. The rest were rust belt cities I would never live in and Garland, TX. Not enough criteria to make a decision (where is climate for instance?). Good idea though. Oh, and Jason, I live in Sacramento and I guarantee it's much better than you think :) #1 was Pittsburgh for me. The rest were rust belt cities I would never live in and Garland, TX. Not enough criteria to make a decision (where is climate for instance?). Good idea though.

Oh, and Jason, I live in Sacramento and I guarantee it’s much better than you think :)

]]> By: gopher http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386348 gopher Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:21:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386348 To answer your question, people looking to find a city or neighborhood to live in should just do a search or post at http://www.city-data.com/forum/ . Millions of posts just about that and tons of other info on the site. To answer your question, people looking to find a city or neighborhood to live in should just do a search or post at http://www.city...data.com/forum/ . Millions of posts just about that and tons of other info on the site.

]]> By: Adam http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/24/hoodeo-tries-to-match-you-with-your-ideal-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2386324 Adam Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:57:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19277#comment-2386324 Ugh. People get too caught up in the actual creation of a site, but never give any thought to its production value or user experience. I give this a 9 on the crap o meter. Hoodeo needs to do some research before they go all out. Ugh. People get too caught up in the actual creation of a site, but never give any thought to its production value or user experience. I give this a 9 on the crap o meter. Hoodeo needs to do some research before they go all out.

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