<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Not So Social: Google And Facebook Face-Off At Supernova</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/</link>
	<description>Startup and Technology News</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:52:41 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Not So Social: Google And Facebook Face-Off At Supernova &#124; Xaby.com &#124; Singapore Web Design Company Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2380696</link>
		<dc:creator>Not So Social: Google And Facebook Face-Off At Supernova &#124; Xaby.com &#124; Singapore Web Design Company Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2380696</guid>
		<description>[...] Full Story At TechCrunch  addthis_url = &#039;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xaby.com%2Fwebtalk%2F2008%2F06%2F20%2Fnot-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova%2F&#039;; addthis_title = &#039;Not+So+Social%3A+Google+And+Facebook+Face-Off+At+Supernova&#039;; addthis_pub = &#039;&#039;;   Sphere: Related Content [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Full Story At TechCrunch  addthis_url = &#8216;http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xaby.com%2Fwebtalk%2F2008%2F06%2F20%2Fnot-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova%2F&#8217;; addthis_title = &#8216;Not+So+Social%3A+Google+And+Facebook+Face-Off+At+Supernova&#8217;; addthis_pub = &#8221;;   Sphere: Related Content [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aimee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2380679</link>
		<dc:creator>Aimee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2380679</guid>
		<description>Um, this is a tad bit scary. Considering that I use Google&#039;s services and Facebook and both hold my data, I do wonder if I made a mistake by using either..
However, post 29 is the reason why I picked Facebook above other social networks. I choose who sees what. Don&#039;t quite remember having the same power a few years back, when I (sadly) had a MySpace.
For you MySpace fans, don&#039;t get me wrong. MySpace is fine.. but I&#039;d rather control what is seen by whom, since I deal with friends, family, and clients from the same social network profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, this is a tad bit scary. Considering that I use Google&#8217;s services and Facebook and both hold my data, I do wonder if I made a mistake by using either..<br />
However, post 29 is the reason why I picked Facebook above other social networks. I choose who sees what. Don&#8217;t quite remember having the same power a few years back, when I (sadly) had a MySpace.<br />
For you MySpace fans, don&#8217;t get me wrong. MySpace is fine.. but I&#8217;d rather control what is seen by whom, since I deal with friends, family, and clients from the same social network profile.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Larry Chiang</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2380376</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2380376</guid>
		<description>I was in the room during this fight and saw an obvious winner.

Tantek moderated and asked for comments via Twitter &quot;@supernova2008&quot; and showing the results on S-u-m-m-i-z-e.  

Twitter was allowing summize to summarize all hash tagged tweets.  Twitter wins.

Am citing this as a prime example of &#039;backfiring forward&#039; in my book, &quot;What They Dont Teach You At Stanford Business School&quot;

@larrychiang or text me @650-283-8008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the room during this fight and saw an obvious winner.</p>
<p>Tantek moderated and asked for comments via Twitter &#8220;@supernova2008&#8243; and showing the results on S-u-m-m-i-z-e.  </p>
<p>Twitter was allowing summize to summarize all hash tagged tweets.  Twitter wins.</p>
<p>Am citing this as a prime example of &#8216;backfiring forward&#8217; in my book, &#8220;What They Dont Teach You At Stanford Business School&#8221;</p>
<p>@larrychiang or text me @650-283-8008</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: links for 2008-06-18 &#171; 個人的な雑記</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2379027</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-06-18 &#171; 個人的な雑記</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2379027</guid>
		<description>[...] Not So Social: Google And Facebook Face-Off At Supernova (tags: friendconnect facebook google) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not So Social: Google And Facebook Face-Off At Supernova (tags: friendconnect facebook google) [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378774</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378774</guid>
		<description>Ah...reminds me of the IM interoperability wars between MSN and AOL, and we all know what happened there. No need to get all up-in-arms right out of the gate. There will be lots more back-and-forth before all is said and done. Time to sit back and watch the fun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;reminds me of the IM interoperability wars between MSN and AOL, and we all know what happened there. No need to get all up-in-arms right out of the gate. There will be lots more back-and-forth before all is said and done. Time to sit back and watch the fun&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Status report: still no resolve between Facebook and Google - yet</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378733</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Status report: still no resolve between Facebook and Google - yet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378733</guid>
		<description>[...] Steve Gillmor reports from the SuperNova conference where Facebook and Google were on the same panel... - disgreeing on whether or not the Google Friend Connect service meets Facebook&#8217;s criterria for privacy controls. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Steve Gillmor reports from the SuperNova conference where Facebook and Google were on the same panel&#8230; &#8211; disgreeing on whether or not the Google Friend Connect service meets Facebook&#8217;s criterria for privacy controls. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aydin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378674</link>
		<dc:creator>Aydin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378674</guid>
		<description>Wow, it&#039;s shocking how the facebook fans on this site ignore the bigger picture.

Just another reason why I keep my facebook activities to a minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s shocking how the facebook fans on this site ignore the bigger picture.</p>
<p>Just another reason why I keep my facebook activities to a minimum.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Merket</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378549</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Merket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378549</guid>
		<description>Arvin,

What makes Facebook different than any other social network is the ability to customize those very things you bring up.

Don&#039;t want you picture shown to random people? Turn it off in your privacy controls. Just as if you were to walk down Market St., you cannot opt-out of random people seeing your face -- but on Facebook you can opt-out of random people seeing your face. 

Facebook has A LOT of customization when it comes to your privacy. You can turn off all of the items you brought up in your post.

&quot;they will sell our data if it makes money&quot; -- No, they won&#039;t. In no way does that align with their business goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arvin,</p>
<p>What makes Facebook different than any other social network is the ability to customize those very things you bring up.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t want you picture shown to random people? Turn it off in your privacy controls. Just as if you were to walk down Market St., you cannot opt-out of random people seeing your face &#8212; but on Facebook you can opt-out of random people seeing your face. </p>
<p>Facebook has A LOT of customization when it comes to your privacy. You can turn off all of the items you brought up in your post.</p>
<p>&#8220;they will sell our data if it makes money&#8221; &#8212; No, they won&#8217;t. In no way does that align with their business goals.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Arvin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378419</link>
		<dc:creator>Arvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378419</guid>
		<description>Ryan Merket,

Facebook is the worst thing for privacy since Nazis started taking names! It shows all these pictures from others that have you in them to your employers, and it&#039;s up to you to find them and untag them. Even worse, everything they do is opt-out, so by default all your information is shared all the time with everyone. I agree with Frank, at least the search results from Google don&#039;t contain my personal information, until it&#039;s my Facebook profile that pops up on the search!
Facebook blows chunks, they will sell our data if it makes money - and when you signed up you gave them a license to use the data for any purpose which they see fit....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Merket,</p>
<p>Facebook is the worst thing for privacy since Nazis started taking names! It shows all these pictures from others that have you in them to your employers, and it&#8217;s up to you to find them and untag them. Even worse, everything they do is opt-out, so by default all your information is shared all the time with everyone. I agree with Frank, at least the search results from Google don&#8217;t contain my personal information, until it&#8217;s my Facebook profile that pops up on the search!<br />
Facebook blows chunks, they will sell our data if it makes money &#8211; and when you signed up you gave them a license to use the data for any purpose which they see fit&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378399</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378399</guid>
		<description>But Friend Connect doesn&#039;t take your data from Facebook unless you tell it to. Just like any other importer.

Facebook and Friend Connect aren&#039;t rivals, they complement each other. In one you actually do the work, and the other is a tool to have one global ID among several websites.

The idea of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=466&amp;doc_id=154404&amp;f_src=flffour&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;data portability&lt;/a&gt; is creating some problems, as everyone wants &quot;open access&quot; but only if they are the ones providing the service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Friend Connect doesn&#8217;t take your data from Facebook unless you tell it to. Just like any other importer.</p>
<p>Facebook and Friend Connect aren&#8217;t rivals, they complement each other. In one you actually do the work, and the other is a tool to have one global ID among several websites.</p>
<p>The idea of <a href="http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=466&amp;doc_id=154404&amp;f_src=flffour" rel="nofollow">data portability</a> is creating some problems, as everyone wants &#8220;open access&#8221; but only if they are the ones providing the service.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kafka</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378356</link>
		<dc:creator>kafka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378356</guid>
		<description>Meh, to hell with them both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, to hell with them both.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378328</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378328</guid>
		<description>&quot;It was implied that this is happening on an engineering and executive level, and that legal teams had poured over the various terms of use agreements.&quot;

So what exactly are they going to pour over those documents. Gravy sounds good. You might think of poring over this post by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was implied that this is happening on an engineering and executive level, and that legal teams had poured over the various terms of use agreements.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what exactly are they going to pour over those documents. Gravy sounds good. You might think of poring over this post by the way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378317</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378317</guid>
		<description>Wish I&#039;d been there for the tense standoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I&#8217;d been there for the tense standoff.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Artur Kaminski</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378253</link>
		<dc:creator>Artur Kaminski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378253</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;...why Facebook is falling back on their global legal terms as a reason for not allowing individual users to extract their own data&lt;/i&gt;

I think its wrong question: the user *can* access/extract/whatever its own data. Its all about using Google to access my data. If Google with the agreement with Facebook got access to all my data without my permission, it would be horrible. But if its all about allowing Google to passing (organizing) data for me, with my clear permission and only when I want it, I won&#039;t protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;why Facebook is falling back on their global legal terms as a reason for not allowing individual users to extract their own data</i></p>
<p>I think its wrong question: the user *can* access/extract/whatever its own data. Its all about using Google to access my data. If Google with the agreement with Facebook got access to all my data without my permission, it would be horrible. But if its all about allowing Google to passing (organizing) data for me, with my clear permission and only when I want it, I won&#8217;t protest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dehkad</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378201</link>
		<dc:creator>dehkad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378201</guid>
		<description>Really tired of Facebook and there constant whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really tired of Facebook and there constant whining.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; あんまりソーシャルじゃないね：GoogleとFacebookがSupernovaでにらみ合い</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378127</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; あんまりソーシャルじゃないね：GoogleとFacebookがSupernovaでにらみ合い</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378127</guid>
		<description>[...] [原文へ] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [原文へ] [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Merket</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378122</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Merket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378122</guid>
		<description>Facebook&#039;s Beacon Apology:
&quot;We&#039;ve made a lot of mistakes building this feature, but we&#039;ve made even more with how we&#039;ve handled them. We simply did a bad job with this release, and I apologize for it.&quot; - Mark Zuckerburg

http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7584397130

&quot;Ryan Merket is dumber than any other person...&quot; - and with that I&#039;m done with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook&#8217;s Beacon Apology:<br />
&#8220;We&#8217;ve made a lot of mistakes building this feature, but we&#8217;ve made even more with how we&#8217;ve handled them. We simply did a bad job with this release, and I apologize for it.&#8221; &#8211; Mark Zuckerburg</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7584397130" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7584397130'>http://blog.fac...post=7584397130</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Ryan Merket is dumber than any other person&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; and with that I&#8217;m done with you.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Merket</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Merket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378120</guid>
		<description>Frank,

Beacon apology:
http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7584397130

&quot;We&#039;ve made a lot of mistakes building this feature, but we&#039;ve made even more with how we&#039;ve handled them. We simply did a bad job with this release, and I apologize for it.&quot;

&quot;Ryan Merket is dumber than any other person...&quot; -- and with that comment. I am done with you, for good. Go troll somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Beacon apology:<br />
<a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7584397130" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=7584397130'>http://blog.fac...post=7584397130</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve made a lot of mistakes building this feature, but we&#8217;ve made even more with how we&#8217;ve handled them. We simply did a bad job with this release, and I apologize for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ryan Merket is dumber than any other person&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; and with that comment. I am done with you, for good. Go troll somewhere else.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MOAB</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378113</link>
		<dc:creator>MOAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378113</guid>
		<description>Precisely, when Google opens up the source for Map/Reduce and expose their search algorithm they can start having a bit more ground to demanding Facebook bend over for a data raping.

Their (and Arrington&#039;s) stance on the topic is disingenuous at best.  Why on earth would a company allow an invasive parasite like Google to have at one of their core assets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely, when Google opens up the source for Map/Reduce and expose their search algorithm they can start having a bit more ground to demanding Facebook bend over for a data raping.</p>
<p>Their (and Arrington&#8217;s) stance on the topic is disingenuous at best.  Why on earth would a company allow an invasive parasite like Google to have at one of their core assets?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Frank Church</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378086</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378086</guid>
		<description>@Ryan Merket

If you won&#039;t admit that this is a business decision and nothing else, we have nothing further to discuss. 

Ask Gilmor or Arrington.Genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan Merket</p>
<p>If you won&#8217;t admit that this is a business decision and nothing else, we have nothing further to discuss. </p>
<p>Ask Gilmor or Arrington.Genius.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Frank Church</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378084</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378084</guid>
		<description>Right Ryan, I can&#039;t just type in my friend&#039;s data directly from Outlook. Whatever you say buddy. Keep trying. Oh, they said they were sorry? STFU.

Allowing my usage of 3rd party sites to be displayed was merely an oversight. My purchase at Overstock was really their business, sure. You want some vodka in that kool-aid? 

If facebook was concerned about privacy Beacon would neve have happend. this is about business, nothing more. Google knows and so does facebook, but your are too ignorant to be aware.

Ryan Merket is dumber than any other person I have seen comment here on Techcrunch ever, period (b/c I don&#039;t thin he is even paid directly by them). Dumber than a rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Ryan, I can&#8217;t just type in my friend&#8217;s data directly from Outlook. Whatever you say buddy. Keep trying. Oh, they said they were sorry? STFU.</p>
<p>Allowing my usage of 3rd party sites to be displayed was merely an oversight. My purchase at Overstock was really their business, sure. You want some vodka in that kool-aid? </p>
<p>If facebook was concerned about privacy Beacon would neve have happend. this is about business, nothing more. Google knows and so does facebook, but your are too ignorant to be aware.</p>
<p>Ryan Merket is dumber than any other person I have seen comment here on Techcrunch ever, period (b/c I don&#8217;t thin he is even paid directly by them). Dumber than a rock.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MyMesh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378065</link>
		<dc:creator>MyMesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378065</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s not only about rights. Don&#039;t misguide people that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not only about rights. Don&#8217;t misguide people that way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Falafulu Fisi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378063</link>
		<dc:creator>Falafulu Fisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378063</guid>
		<description>Norbert Perkins said...
&lt;i&gt;Sorry Facebook - but we can make that decision for ourselves ...&lt;/i&gt;

Facebook servers belong to Facebook. Do you get it?  If Facebook blocks Google or anyone else trying to get access to their server, since it is their property, then they have every right to do just that. Sorry, you&#039;re misguided, in thinking that  it is  YOUR decision. The server is not yours, it is the property of Facebook and the decision is theirs.

Here is a suggestion to you. How about take your data from Facebook and put it on your own website, heh?  In that way,  Google crawler can then index your detail.  See, you then make that decision for yourselves, since the decision to allow the Google crawler to index your detail is yours alone (after all, the page with your detail on it is your property).

It is time that people should stop moaning &amp; thinking that they have a legitimate say in what other property owners do with what is theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norbert Perkins said&#8230;<br />
<i>Sorry Facebook &#8211; but we can make that decision for ourselves &#8230;</i></p>
<p>Facebook servers belong to Facebook. Do you get it?  If Facebook blocks Google or anyone else trying to get access to their server, since it is their property, then they have every right to do just that. Sorry, you&#8217;re misguided, in thinking that  it is  YOUR decision. The server is not yours, it is the property of Facebook and the decision is theirs.</p>
<p>Here is a suggestion to you. How about take your data from Facebook and put it on your own website, heh?  In that way,  Google crawler can then index your detail.  See, you then make that decision for yourselves, since the decision to allow the Google crawler to index your detail is yours alone (after all, the page with your detail on it is your property).</p>
<p>It is time that people should stop moaning &amp; thinking that they have a legitimate say in what other property owners do with what is theirs.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Norbert Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378051</link>
		<dc:creator>Norbert Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378051</guid>
		<description>Looks like a lot of Facebook fans blinded by too many sheep? 

The user should have the choice of who and what can access his/her data. 
Sorry Facebook - but we can make that decision for ourselves - after all - we chose to trust you, sign up and put our data into your application didn&#039;t we?  I love Facebook for the utility and ease of access (still a great iPhone app) - but the fact is my professional contacts are on LinkedIn, my school contacts are on friends reuinited, and I have friends on Ning, Plaxo and a dozen other networks/tools. Thats&#039; great - it demonstrates that today people can choose whatever networking product suits their needs. 

So be a good chap, quit the Microsoft stance (yeah - they talked a lot about &quot;open&quot; standards for years as well) and be a part of the community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a lot of Facebook fans blinded by too many sheep? </p>
<p>The user should have the choice of who and what can access his/her data.<br />
Sorry Facebook &#8211; but we can make that decision for ourselves &#8211; after all &#8211; we chose to trust you, sign up and put our data into your application didn&#8217;t we?  I love Facebook for the utility and ease of access (still a great iPhone app) &#8211; but the fact is my professional contacts are on LinkedIn, my school contacts are on friends reuinited, and I have friends on Ning, Plaxo and a dozen other networks/tools. Thats&#8217; great &#8211; it demonstrates that today people can choose whatever networking product suits their needs. </p>
<p>So be a good chap, quit the Microsoft stance (yeah &#8211; they talked a lot about &#8220;open&#8221; standards for years as well) and be a part of the community&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Merket</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/not-so-social-google-and-facebook-face-off-at-supernova/comment-page-1/#comment-2378025</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Merket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=19033#comment-2378025</guid>
		<description>Frank,

Facebook has spoke out and apologized for the way Beacon was initiated. Now ALL Beacon sites are required opt-in ONLY. Please do your research before trying to call me out.

Have you ever given thought that maybe your friends don&#039;t want to be able to take their data to 3rd party sites? Sure, the information YOU enter in Facebook is YOUR data, just like the information your friends enter into Facebook is THEIR data. What Google is essentially doing is neglecting the fact that your friends may not want you to take that information to other networks.

 Privacy, Frank... Privacy. That&#039;s why Facebook is growing, and that&#039;s why they are stopping the Google siphon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Facebook has spoke out and apologized for the way Beacon was initiated. Now ALL Beacon sites are required opt-in ONLY. Please do your research before trying to call me out.</p>
<p>Have you ever given thought that maybe your friends don&#8217;t want to be able to take their data to 3rd party sites? Sure, the information YOU enter in Facebook is YOUR data, just like the information your friends enter into Facebook is THEIR data. What Google is essentially doing is neglecting the fact that your friends may not want you to take that information to other networks.</p>
<p> Privacy, Frank&#8230; Privacy. That&#8217;s why Facebook is growing, and that&#8217;s why they are stopping the Google siphon.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
