From CrunchGear’s Nicholas Deleon:
Adobe already has a version of Flash for the iPhone running on emulation software, and would, fingers crossed, be able to bring that over to the phone itself if Apple allowed it. That’s what Adobe said yesterday at its Q2 conference call. Or:
We have a version that’s working on the emulation. This is still on the computer and you know, we have to continue to move it from a test environment onto the device and continue to make it work. So we are pleased with the internal progress that we’ve made to date.
But will Apple allow Flash for the iPhone? Steve Jobs has claimed in the past that the mobile version of Flash—presumably what Adobe would be porting over to the iPhone—isn’t powerful enough for use on the nimble and elegant iPhone. Integration with Safari? Ha!
This leaves Adobe, if it wants a piece of that sweet, sweet iPhone market, with a few options. It could simply release a stand-alone Flash application on the upcoming App Store, but that would be cumbersome to say the least.
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Then again, there is always SproutCore, the Javascript framework behind Apple’s MobileMe service that can be used to build other “‘thick’ client applications in the Web browser.”
Those are good news! The technology I am building actually will make use of flash for mobile devices as well, and it is really refreshing to see the most promising mobile device use flash!
Perhaps Apple should work on more basic features for the iPhone such as MMS Texting, voicing dialing, and maybe VIDEO recording???’
Funny how a “top of the line” cell phone is missing features a $49 phone has.
Great news!
Meh..
@2 My Iphone has 2 out of 3 of the things you listed… Clearly you’re not jailbreaking!
Interesting - SproutCore…No Flash?
http://www.appleinsider.com/ar.....e_web.html
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/.....proutcore/
i almost want to say steve jobs does know what hes talking about but hes steve jobs. so i believe him and follow diligently. yeah videos on the ipod would rock! sorry adobe.
copy/paste>flash
It would solve some problems, though I think Apple has bigger things to explore than Flash.
PS - The MobileMe link is slightly broken (the e is not highlighted)
I don’t want to sound like a fanboy or anything by my second… wait… third hand Pocket PC is able to run flash and has been for a while! I can go to YouTube and YouP.. other video sites.
I think Apple would be silly to turn down flash, especially considering the long, loving and tender relationship between Apple and Adobe - we all know they’ve been kissing behind the shelter sheds at school.
The Apple SDK EULA states (or did state) that you cannot create and distribute anything that has it’s own interpreted language, which I believe would include Flash.
We have a facebook cause called “Flash for iPhone” with 522 members so far http://apps.facebook.com/causes/45457
the fact that apple refuses to accomodate to mainstream media by refusing adobe flash is just a stumble in a great product. apple needs to lower their standards and focus on mainstreaming its phone. videos en-mass on iphone would only carve out a greater niche for apple in the cell phone market and take another shot at Blackberry.
Wiat! the best thing about the iPhone was that it DIDN’T have flash!
Ryan is quite right and the reasons are entirely commercial in nature. Apple doesn’t want to create a back door revenue leak. See my blog for more:
http://smoothspan.wordpress.co.....obe-flash/
Cheers,
BW
There’s also Sun’s Lively Kernel which is a possible alternative to Flash http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/
It’s about damn time. I’d love to be able to surf through blogs that have YouTube videos embedded and watch the YouTube video on the blog without having to go to the YouTube page on the iPhone.
please please please please please!
Those are good news! The technology I am building actually will make use of flash for mobile devices as well, and it is really refreshing to see the most promising mobile device use flash
We have ton of flash applications, that we are not going to recreate just for iphone. We hope flash for IPhone makes it to the market. Otherwise, I hope Android-with their truly open approach-would trump iphone.
Apple wants to control the software development channel. No Java, no Flash, etc. Given the power they currently have, its a perfectly natural choice. If there was more competition in the market, things might change.
Meh, iPhone…
Whatever, I’m not willing to dance to the shallow music of apple’s neat “design” and UI any moar….
Well it’s about time!!
Great leap for the mobile industry to have Flash on iPhone!!
thanks..
Now the power of FAKE BREASTS … on the iphone!
Well.., One thing to add is Apple is really a innovative technology makers.., They are always first in anything..
app store is going to be very cool, but i think jailbreaking this new phone is going to be necessary as well. Apple isnt going to let the apps that I want go through, I just know it
Why is everyone hyping Flash on the iPhone? I don’t want it. All Flash will provide is gawd-awful interfaces and poor battery life. No thanks. I haven’t had even one situation where I wished the iPhone had Flash yet… I really don’t think that is going to change.
Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Adobe are all competing for web developers.
They are going to be very cautious about not giving too much exposure to one another.
there are a lot of flash apps i’d like to see on the iphone, most notably games, as well as some widgets. i’m skeptical, though that apple’s going to let that happen anytime soon. they are clearly interested in controlling the whole development pipeline.
at searchme, we have experimented with iphone, but flash would simplify thing for us.
there are other applications that hog battery life, e.g. youtube, etc. i think users should be able to choose if the trade off is worth it or not.
The great thing about Flash is it has an easy-to-understand API and it works everywhere. Java, JavaScript, .NET, and other keep promising these things, but only Flash delivers.
As a web app builder, I’d really enjoy AIR on the iPhone.
They must have flashblock too. All that flash-ad everywhere would drain the battery superfast.
the best reason for flash is so good word processing or slideshow presentations can be created at sites like buzzword.com and sliderocket.com. apple can’t just let go of flash because they made a youtube application.
Flash is great…
Having said that… here is my Web 0.2 contribution for this post:
http://www.jogtheweb.com/reade.....rackId=110
Too bad if apple did not allow the flash by adobe to be used in iPhones.
Nat
http://www.workersinc.com
Flash’s three stupid features:
1. crossdomain.xml
2. No database support
3. Source code can be easily extracted(actionscript)
This make Flash useless
Say goodbye to your battery life! Flash has atrocious performance on a Mac and is infamous for high CPU usage. I think that the lack of Flash on an iPhone is a feature!
I’ve been looking forward to Flash on my iPod Touch ever since I got it; it feels like such a pointless thing to have missed - it should have been standard from day one.
Remember that listening to statements from Steve is like listening to the Federal Reserve - you have to parse very carefully.
His previous “complaint” was that Flash Lite is too lame (true — it doesn’t support Flex) and that Flash 9 is too fat (true — it really requires a modern PC to be good) However, Adobe now has Flash 10 (now in public beta at labs.adobe.com). Flash 10 uses hardware acceleration so it probably isn’t a CPU/Battery hog any more and supposedly it is optimized to have a much leaner RAM footprint. I haven’t actually tried it, but it seems like this should address Steve’s complaints, so why shouldn’t the addition of Flash be the “one more thing” on July 11 ?
Or, if not now, at the Flash 10 launch (early next year?). By then (if not already), Apple’s own dev environments will have caught up and have gotten sufficient penetration with developers that Flash is no longer a competitive worry.
And now with the Appstore model, Apple would get a cut of every AIR app that someone runs on iPhone. Undoubtedly there is some Wall Street Analyst who would claim that that will add another $1 Billion to Apple’s revenue (and thus another $20 to the Stock price)…
So now a shift in position is fully, logically justified on all fronts. QED.
The truest thing anybody has said on here:
“copy/paste>flash”
I could give a rats ass about Flash. I’ve lived without it on my various Treo’s and Nokia’s with no serious ill effects. What I bump my head against EVERY FRICKING DAY is I can’t copy and paste.
Flash on the iPhone… that’ll be super helpful for the 3G models with awesome video capabilities… i wonder who the genius was who figured this out… http://www.readtheanswer.com/index.php?rta=blog
Here’s some REAL info:
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/200.....l-devices/
In short, don’t hold your breath. Flash will probably NEVER come to an iPhone!
Jobs has made the mistake of a closed system twice (Apple OS, NeXT)…will he make it 3 for 3 with Android on the horizon?
Apple will allow it, if and only if, Adobe dumps all their IPs and make flash truely opensource.
The only use for Flash on the iPhone is online games (and maybe a few video sites). Personally, after using the iPhone for six months, the lack of Flash isn’t a big problem since most video is on Youtube anyway.
there are lots of services that manage the things flash will miss.
Video might be the most wanted feature. Youtube delivers all its new clips in mp4. Mp4 is the way better format for video.
If you want more clips then youtiubes, use http://ipod.livebuster.com and watch nearly any video from any portal on the fly.
Heres an explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO99w92pF80
I think, maybe — we wont need flash. The games will be available for free in the Apples Store, most apps will be free. So theres video, theres Games, what else do we need?
ah - the layer ads, youre right. We will REALLY miss them.
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thanks very good.