Comments on: Dead Simple Flash Based WebChat For MySpace http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:59:04 -0800 hourly 1 By: Meebo To Turn On Chat For Communities http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2410838 Meebo To Turn On Chat For Communities Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:48:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2410838 [...] Facebook Chat, but don’t have the resources to build out their own platform quickly. Even MySpace lacks a web chat product, although they are building one for launch later this [...] [...] Facebook Chat, but don’t have the resources to build out their own platform quickly. Even MySpace lacks a web chat product, although they are building one for launch later this [...]

]]> By: Jon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2376030 Jon Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:22:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2376030 “Beware - you have to enter your MySpace credentials to use the service, and there’s no guarantee this service won’t use them for, well, anything they want.” Michael, Olubi, Trench -- if you're going to warn us about unofficialmyspaceim, why not the same warning about Pidgin, Adium, or Trillion? Couldn't these desktop clients be storing/re-using your login credentials just the same as a web-app? Have you performed the network trace to make sure they haven't? It's unfair to hold web-based apps to a different standard than client apps, both of which might ask for your username and password. There's no security different between one kind of app over the other, and both could just as easily be storing your password for illicit purposes. In both cases, you should use the overall reputation of the product, its authors, and other users to make a decision about trusting an app with your password - not whether it happens to be web-based. “Beware – you have to enter your MySpace credentials to use the service, and there’s no guarantee this service won’t use them for, well, anything they want.”

Michael, Olubi, Trench — if you’re going to warn us about unofficialmyspaceim, why not the same warning about Pidgin, Adium, or Trillion? Couldn’t these desktop clients be storing/re-using your login credentials just the same as a web-app? Have you performed the network trace to make sure they haven’t?

It’s unfair to hold web-based apps to a different standard than client apps, both of which might ask for your username and password. There’s no security different between one kind of app over the other, and both could just as easily be storing your password for illicit purposes.

In both cases, you should use the overall reputation of the product, its authors, and other users to make a decision about trusting an app with your password – not whether it happens to be web-based.

]]> By: Kayembee http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375995 Kayembee Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:22:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375995 Ow! My Web 0.2 contribution to this post... http://www.jogtheweb.com/reader/index.php?trackId=102 Ow!

My Web 0.2 contribution to this post…

http://www.jogt...php?trackId=102

]]> By: Peter Urban http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375964 Peter Urban Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:45:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375964 I don't know how clever that is 'reveres engineered text based protocol...' If MySpace doesn't want to open up their IM they can change their protocol as whenever and as often as they want to lock out any third party. Or do I miss something here? I don’t know how clever that is ‘reveres engineered text based protocol…’ If MySpace doesn’t want to open up their IM they can change their protocol as whenever and as often as they want to lock out any third party. Or do I miss something here?

]]> By: flamik http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375948 flamik Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:31:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375948 I dont see really the need for a flash chat on MYspace. though they I see that this service is getting more popular these days check this http://www.flashcoms.com I have come across about a thousand of such websites while browsing through internet searching for professional help in this sphere I dont see really the need for a flash chat on MYspace.
though they I see that this service is getting more popular these days
check this http://www.flashcoms.com
I have come across about a thousand of such websites while browsing through internet searching for professional help in this sphere

]]> By: SG http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375812 SG Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:55:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375812 Who is Prasad Mahendra? Is it a MySpace employee? SG Who is Prasad Mahendra? Is it a MySpace employee?

SG

]]> By: Ryan Merket http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375748 Ryan Merket Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:08:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375748 >> Hey Tom, how's Myspace doing against those pesky spam bots? Tom: woo! >> heh, how's OpenSocial workin' out for you? Tom: woo! >> Think Facebook will own you guys in DAU and uniques? Tom: woo! >> Are your numbers inflated due to spam? Tom: woo! >> Are you scared of Facebook? Tom: woo! >> Hey Tom, how’s Myspace doing against those pesky spam bots?
Tom: woo!
>> heh, how’s OpenSocial workin’ out for you?
Tom: woo!
>> Think Facebook will own you guys in DAU and uniques?
Tom: woo!
>> Are your numbers inflated due to spam?
Tom: woo!
>> Are you scared of Facebook?
Tom: woo!

]]> By: Olubi Ezra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375744 Olubi Ezra Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:05:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375744 “Beware - you have to enter your MySpace credentials to use the service, and there’s no guarantee this service won’t use them for, well, anything they want.” - TechCrunch "A myspace user’s username and password is never exchanged between the flash client and the myspace-im server verbatim and cannot be stored anywhere by unofficialmyspace.com" - unofficialmyspace.com replies "The proxy is a erlang server wth 156 lines of code. send me a message via myspace (myspace username: unofficialmyspaceim) and I’ll gladly share the proxy source code." - unofficialmyspace.com adds OK dudes... Thanks but I'll prefer to stick with desktop clients such as Pidgin (Windows / Linux) and Adium (Mac) “Beware – you have to enter your MySpace credentials to use the service, and there’s no guarantee this service won’t use them for, well, anything they want.” – TechCrunch

“A myspace user’s username and password is never exchanged between the flash client and the myspace-im server verbatim and cannot be stored anywhere by unofficialmyspace.com” – unofficialmyspace.com replies

“The proxy is a erlang server wth 156 lines of code. send me a message via myspace (myspace username: unofficialmyspaceim) and I’ll gladly share the proxy source code.” – unofficialmyspace.com adds

OK dudes… Thanks but I’ll prefer to stick with desktop clients such as Pidgin (Windows / Linux) and Adium (Mac)

]]> By: Frank Church http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375712 Frank Church Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:42:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375712 Pidgin supports myspace IM for a loooong time now, but it is linux/windows only. However, several commenters have mentioned Adium supports it too. So, what's the point of this? Pidgin supports myspace IM for a loooong time now, but it is linux/windows only. However, several commenters have mentioned Adium supports it too. So, what’s the point of this?

]]> By: Harry http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375675 Harry Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:19:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375675 That pretty cool i guess i like myspace, and as a Mac user i would like to beable to use IM. The only thing is with so many IM chooses I have never missed out on not being able to use it. That pretty cool i guess i like myspace, and as a Mac user i would like to beable to use IM. The only thing is with so many IM chooses I have never missed out on not being able to use it.

]]> By: sakri http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375408 sakri Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:29:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375408 I love how they didn't bother to skin the Flex components at all, Pure Flex coding pleasure :) I love how they didn’t bother to skin the Flex components at all, Pure Flex coding pleasure :)

]]> By: Saravanan Sahadevan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375378 Saravanan Sahadevan Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:02:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375378 Besides My Space... It has announced that Adium now supports Facebook chat as well. Besides My Space… It has announced that Adium now supports Facebook chat as well.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375371 Kevin Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:50:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375371 Adium X supports MySpace IM and has for sometime now Adium X supports MySpace IM and has for sometime now

]]> By: Tom Cruise http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375366 Tom Cruise Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:40:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375366 Woo! Woo!

]]> By: jamboree http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375365 jamboree Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:37:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375365 woo! woo!

]]> By: Andy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375340 Andy Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:19:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375340 Oh walled gardens are so great. Why are they not using jabber/XMPP and saving themselves the trouble of writing a client for every target platform? Oh walled gardens are so great. Why are they not using jabber/XMPP and saving themselves the trouble of writing a client for every target platform?

]]> By: trench http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375338 trench Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:06:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375338 ... people are far to quick to enter user/pass info on unaffiliated sites. The trend is increasing and needs to be discouraged, not encouraged. (So I applaud the disclaimer you added.) The timing of the post on the other hand... ... ... curious to know how many people clicked this thinking it was related to the MySpace changes that are supposed to be occurring today. o_o … people are far to quick to enter user/pass info on unaffiliated sites. The trend is increasing and needs to be discouraged, not encouraged. (So I applaud the disclaimer you added.)

The timing of the post on the other hand…

…

… curious to know how many people clicked this thinking it was related to the MySpace changes that are supposed to be occurring today.

o_o

]]> By: Prasad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375336 Prasad Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:01:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375336 Application Architecture: flash app (--) proxy (--) myspace-im service Application Architecture:
flash app (–) proxy (–) myspace-im service

]]> By: Prasad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375328 Prasad Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:50:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375328 RE: "Beware - you have to enter your MySpace credentials to use the service, and there’s no guarantee this service won’t use them for, well, anything they want." Fear not ... Technical Info on how this flash app works: The flash client uses the same authentication mechanism that the official myspace-im desktop client does. A myspace user's username and password is never exchanged between the flash client and the myspace-im server verbatim and cannot be stored anywhere by unofficialmyspace.com (a network trace can be done to verify this easily) even though there is a server in the middle that proxies / relays the flash applications connection to the myspace-im servers. Application Architecture: flash app proxy - myspace-im service The proxy simply relays the messages to the myspace-im servers. I had to do this unfortunately to serve up the flash policy files required to make the flash application work. The proxy is a erlang server wth 156 lines of code. send me a message via myspace (myspace username: unofficialmyspaceim) and I'll gladly share the proxy source code. RE: “Beware – you have to enter your MySpace credentials to use the service, and there’s no guarantee this service won’t use them for, well, anything they want.”

Fear not …

Technical Info on how this flash app works:

The flash client uses the same authentication mechanism that the official myspace-im desktop client does. A myspace user’s username and password is never exchanged between the flash client and the myspace-im server verbatim and cannot be stored anywhere by unofficialmyspace.com (a network trace can be done to verify this easily) even though there is a server in the middle that proxies / relays the flash applications connection to the myspace-im servers.

Application Architecture:
flash app proxy – myspace-im service

The proxy simply relays the messages to the myspace-im servers. I had to do this unfortunately to serve up the flash policy files required to make the flash application work.

The proxy is a erlang server wth 156 lines of code. send me a message via myspace (myspace username: unofficialmyspaceim) and I’ll gladly share the proxy source code.

]]> By: Raul Riera http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375317 Raul Riera Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:37:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375317 Adium supports MySpace IM. Adium supports MySpace IM.

]]> By: 113.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/16/dead-simple-flash-based-webchat-for-myspace/comment-page-1/#comment-2375306 113.com Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:30:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/?p=18928#comment-2375306 Woo! Woo!

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