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		<title>By: Matthew Mansur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Mansur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the real Matt Mansur and I did not write the post from Jan 22.  Whoever knows about this please contact me.  Unfortunately, another gay Matt Mansur is posing as me and I won&#039;t tolerate his agenda.  This is a violation of my rights as a gay cyclist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the real Matt Mansur and I did not write the post from Jan 22.  Whoever knows about this please contact me.  Unfortunately, another gay Matt Mansur is posing as me and I won&#8217;t tolerate his agenda.  This is a violation of my rights as a gay cyclist.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Mansur</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2602673</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Mansur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Matt Mansur from Reno and I&#039;m a pro cyclist with the Reno Wheelmen and I think its fine to be a gay cyclist. I have a few girlfriends  I sleep around with but I prefer the guys.  With Obama, gays will have more rights and child support will be taken from the hands of stupit female judges in reno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Matt Mansur from Reno and I&#8217;m a pro cyclist with the Reno Wheelmen and I think its fine to be a gay cyclist. I have a few girlfriends  I sleep around with but I prefer the guys.  With Obama, gays will have more rights and child support will be taken from the hands of stupit female judges in reno.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Gatz&#8217;s Blog &#187; GayCities plus 1 month</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2409614</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Gatz&#8217;s Blog &#187; GayCities plus 1 month</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an amazing press mention - For our launch we got picked up by the SF Chronicle, TechCrunch (and re-syndicated on the Washington Post) and Inquisitor. Now we&#8217;re waiting for an mention [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an amazing press mention &#8211; For our launch we got picked up by the SF Chronicle, TechCrunch (and re-syndicated on the Washington Post) and Inquisitor. Now we&#8217;re waiting for an mention [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Frank! I can imagine that for some heterosexual men, straight bars are extremely difficult to find. Have fun at TGI Friday&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Frank! I can imagine that for some heterosexual men, straight bars are extremely difficult to find. Have fun at TGI Friday&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: moby</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2372056</link>
		<dc:creator>moby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James ~ Well said. 

I&#039;m not quite as jaded as Jose but, I agree to an extent.  Ratings are subjective.  I tend to avoid the touristy areas of most cities.  I currently live in SF as well.  Perusing the general referrals I found places I enjoy and places I avoid w/pretty much equal ratings.  

The point of the article was the site owner(s) recognize the problem w/subjectivity and seem to be shifting their approach to helping like-minded individuals connect vs random ratings.  This would greatly increase the reliability of referrals.  

If the site fostered connections to other social networks they could greatly increase their appeal.  My .02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James ~ Well said. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite as jaded as Jose but, I agree to an extent.  Ratings are subjective.  I tend to avoid the touristy areas of most cities.  I currently live in SF as well.  Perusing the general referrals I found places I enjoy and places I avoid w/pretty much equal ratings.  </p>
<p>The point of the article was the site owner(s) recognize the problem w/subjectivity and seem to be shifting their approach to helping like-minded individuals connect vs random ratings.  This would greatly increase the reliability of referrals.  </p>
<p>If the site fostered connections to other social networks they could greatly increase their appeal.  My .02</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2371444</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all the best.
best
-larry MR. Big Parker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the best.<br />
best<br />
-larry MR. Big Parker</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2371423</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jose,  that&#039;s about as honest and direct as can be.  You can&#039;t buy feedback like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jose,  that&#8217;s about as honest and direct as can be.  You can&#8217;t buy feedback like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2371269</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like the gay vertical has caused a mass debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like the gay vertical has caused a mass debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d like a little more consistency in linking from pictures/icons to either the actual company being discussed or the crunchbase article. ideally, the opening of the company name/website will go directly to the company/website, and the opening pic/icon/image will also go directly to the company/website.

it&#039;d be cool to have a little (&lt;a href=&quot;http://crunchbase.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cb&lt;/a&gt;) link after each company name.

the popup snap stuff is still a loser. if it was blazing fast, it could work to some degree - in theory, but seeing as how it is slow as sh**, it&#039;s a nonstarter. just annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d like a little more consistency in linking from pictures/icons to either the actual company being discussed or the crunchbase article. ideally, the opening of the company name/website will go directly to the company/website, and the opening pic/icon/image will also go directly to the company/website.</p>
<p>it&#8217;d be cool to have a little (<a href="http://crunchbase.com/" rel="nofollow">cb</a>) link after each company name.</p>
<p>the popup snap stuff is still a loser. if it was blazing fast, it could work to some degree &#8211; in theory, but seeing as how it is slow as sh**, it&#8217;s a nonstarter. just annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose Jimenez</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2371132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Jimenez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so first of all I am gay, and I have lived in San Francisco for ten years. I&#039;ve seen a dozen or so websites or magazines like this that lived and died. 

The sad truth is that most of the gay bars in San Francisco suck. If you want to go to boring, aseptic places with bad music where you can&#039;t even smoke, well great, but it&#039;s kind of pointless to collect scores on the Castro bars where the rating scale varies from &quot;God this sucks&quot; to &quot;if I have to listen to this song again I&#039;ll blow my brains out&quot;. If you&#039;re visiting from Topeka, KS maybe it&#039;s an improvement, but if you&#039;re from Europe, you&#039;ll be astonished at how completely boring it is.

Basically this is a tourist magazine. Locals never use these sites or magazines, never did, and never will. They rely on friends to call them with a tip about a fun band or party, or some reason to go to a particular place. So as a source of local intelligence, sites like this are completely useless. A few bar rags survived, but mainly by cutting advertising deals with one of SF&#039;s porno studios.

As for gay tourists, they primarily want to get laid. If they wanted to sit around paying $8 for Cosmos while watching the latest Beyonce video, they could do that at the lame ass gay bar in their home town. This is where these services fail. They always edit out &quot;seedy&quot; listings, instead focusing on bed and breakfast listings, gay restaurants (is the food gay?), etc.

Blow Buddies, which John Waters famously compared to Starbucks, is conspicuously absent from these sites. Having hosted many many out of town guests, I can say from experience it&#039;s one of the first destinations they ask about. 

If you&#039;re visiting San Francisco, the best source of local information, apart from friends, is Betty and Pansy&#039;s Severe Queer Review. It&#039;s very entertaining and brutally honest (and generally accurate). It&#039;s also one of those antiquated technologies otherwise known as a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so first of all I am gay, and I have lived in San Francisco for ten years. I&#8217;ve seen a dozen or so websites or magazines like this that lived and died. </p>
<p>The sad truth is that most of the gay bars in San Francisco suck. If you want to go to boring, aseptic places with bad music where you can&#8217;t even smoke, well great, but it&#8217;s kind of pointless to collect scores on the Castro bars where the rating scale varies from &#8220;God this sucks&#8221; to &#8220;if I have to listen to this song again I&#8217;ll blow my brains out&#8221;. If you&#8217;re visiting from Topeka, KS maybe it&#8217;s an improvement, but if you&#8217;re from Europe, you&#8217;ll be astonished at how completely boring it is.</p>
<p>Basically this is a tourist magazine. Locals never use these sites or magazines, never did, and never will. They rely on friends to call them with a tip about a fun band or party, or some reason to go to a particular place. So as a source of local intelligence, sites like this are completely useless. A few bar rags survived, but mainly by cutting advertising deals with one of SF&#8217;s porno studios.</p>
<p>As for gay tourists, they primarily want to get laid. If they wanted to sit around paying $8 for Cosmos while watching the latest Beyonce video, they could do that at the lame ass gay bar in their home town. This is where these services fail. They always edit out &#8220;seedy&#8221; listings, instead focusing on bed and breakfast listings, gay restaurants (is the food gay?), etc.</p>
<p>Blow Buddies, which John Waters famously compared to Starbucks, is conspicuously absent from these sites. Having hosted many many out of town guests, I can say from experience it&#8217;s one of the first destinations they ask about. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re visiting San Francisco, the best source of local information, apart from friends, is Betty and Pansy&#8217;s Severe Queer Review. It&#8217;s very entertaining and brutally honest (and generally accurate). It&#8217;s also one of those antiquated technologies otherwise known as a book.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ll just say this - scott is a brilliant product guy (i know him from yahoo) and he&#039;s got a great sense for consumer products. it&#039;s sad to see this already turn into a debate about homosexuality - that&#039;s not what this is about...scott&#039;s simply providing a valuable recommendation service (and probably more someday) for a group of like-minded individuals. all gay people aren&#039;t the same, but in the same way that there are Women&#039;s travel sites, or Family, or Singles, why can&#039;t there be a gay site without a debate? 

Let&#039;s just focus on the merits of the product. It&#039;s a good product from a great, talented individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll just say this &#8211; scott is a brilliant product guy (i know him from yahoo) and he&#8217;s got a great sense for consumer products. it&#8217;s sad to see this already turn into a debate about homosexuality &#8211; that&#8217;s not what this is about&#8230;scott&#8217;s simply providing a valuable recommendation service (and probably more someday) for a group of like-minded individuals. all gay people aren&#8217;t the same, but in the same way that there are Women&#8217;s travel sites, or Family, or Singles, why can&#8217;t there be a gay site without a debate? </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just focus on the merits of the product. It&#8217;s a good product from a great, talented individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Menayan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Menayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With very few exceptions, gay people are extremely accommodating of straight people (women and men) who want to step into their world. But if you, as a straight person, don&#039;t care much for that particular world (even if you&#039;re not homophobic), then you&#039;ll understand why there is plenty of room for gay social networks.

If we could offload just 10% of the gay men out there cruising on Craigslist alone onto a social networking site, we&#039;d be larger than Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With very few exceptions, gay people are extremely accommodating of straight people (women and men) who want to step into their world. But if you, as a straight person, don&#8217;t care much for that particular world (even if you&#8217;re not homophobic), then you&#8217;ll understand why there is plenty of room for gay social networks.</p>
<p>If we could offload just 10% of the gay men out there cruising on Craigslist alone onto a social networking site, we&#8217;d be larger than Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, 

Your argument is a tired one. If you don’t understand why people with a certain commonality group together… I guess you don’t really understand about being social.

Everyone has their own thing. While being gay doesn&#039;t define a person as to who they are, it&#039;s still a part of their life. There are certain places that are very trendy and friendly towards gays and there are places where there are not (in terms of living and vacationing). I know I always wanted to go to Fiji. It&#039;s my dream vacation. Unfortunately, I was not aware that Fiji considers homosexuality a crime punishable by death. How sad. 

I’ve got to get back to being super gay and super isolating myself. You know, because every day is gay day. I’m also thinking about joining the army while I’m at it. Maybe I’ll get to travel some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, </p>
<p>Your argument is a tired one. If you don’t understand why people with a certain commonality group together… I guess you don’t really understand about being social.</p>
<p>Everyone has their own thing. While being gay doesn&#8217;t define a person as to who they are, it&#8217;s still a part of their life. There are certain places that are very trendy and friendly towards gays and there are places where there are not (in terms of living and vacationing). I know I always wanted to go to Fiji. It&#8217;s my dream vacation. Unfortunately, I was not aware that Fiji considers homosexuality a crime punishable by death. How sad. </p>
<p>I’ve got to get back to being super gay and super isolating myself. You know, because every day is gay day. I’m also thinking about joining the army while I’m at it. Maybe I’ll get to travel some.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/11/gaycities-tries-to-make-reviews-less-anonymous/comment-page-1/#comment-2370918</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site gives a whole new meaning to Lower Manhattan.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet! We have a site we&#039;re about to launch called &quot;StraightSities&quot; (note the alliteration :)  It&#039;s for non-GLBT folk. We feel the heterosexual community needs a special place b/c myspace/ facebook/ yelp just won&#039;t do. We don&#039;t want interact with those that are different.


This reminds me of my mother telling me that, &quot;Everyday is Kids Day&quot; in response to my questioning Mother&#039;s day and Father&#039;s Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet! We have a site we&#8217;re about to launch called &#8220;StraightSities&#8221; (note the alliteration <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s for non-GLBT folk. We feel the heterosexual community needs a special place b/c myspace/ facebook/ yelp just won&#8217;t do. We don&#8217;t want interact with those that are different.</p>
<p>This reminds me of my mother telling me that, &#8220;Everyday is Kids Day&#8221; in response to my questioning Mother&#8217;s day and Father&#8217;s Day.</p>
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