Comments on: Want to Try Out Apple’s MobileMe? Check Out SproutCore http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/ Startup and Technology News Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:02:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: With MobileMe, Apple Bites Off More Than It Can Chew http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2429464 With MobileMe, Apple Bites Off More Than It Can Chew Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:33:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2429464 [...] technology - it was also exceedingly beautiful. By applying its legendary design expertise to the SproutCore JavaScript framework, Apple had created a browser-based hub that not only empowered consumers with device flexibility; [...] [...] technology - it was also exceedingly beautiful. By applying its legendary design expertise to the SproutCore JavaScript framework, Apple had created a browser-based hub that not only empowered consumers with device flexibility; [...]

]]> By: Dynamic Flash » The problem with SproutCore http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2407830 Dynamic Flash » The problem with SproutCore Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:14:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2407830 [...] been meaning to sit down and this article on SproutCore ever since it shot to fame as the underlying client-side framework used to build Apple’s recently released MobileMe web [...] [...] been meaning to sit down and this article on SproutCore ever since it shot to fame as the underlying client-side framework used to build Apple’s recently released MobileMe web [...]

]]> By: Elmer Martiner http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2406519 Elmer Martiner Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:43:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2406519 I was not off the mark as to how much SproutCore sucks Shit! Look at how well it is performing in MobileMe right now.. Yes sure Charles Jolley can up with the most fucking retarded excuses, but hands down it is the shittiest framework I have seen! I was not off the mark as to how much SproutCore sucks Shit! Look at how well it is performing in MobileMe right now.. Yes sure Charles Jolley can up with the most fucking retarded excuses, but hands down it is the shittiest framework I have seen!

]]> By: Colin http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2376965 Colin Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:38:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2376965 Some of you guys just don't get it. They aren't trying to compete with jQuery / Prototype / YUI / or Flash. Apple's move is to provide a seamless experience for which neither of the technologies are necessarily capable of producing in a fashion that suits Apple's strive for perfection and useable technology/UI. jQuery UI demo pieces aren't that spectacular either so settle down. Which brings me to implementation and execution. I find some of the commentary rather humorous given the lifespan of the aforementioned javascript frameworks, and how poorly most of them have been implemented. Seriously, take a hard look before being overly vocal about premature coverage of a framework that's incomplete. And I mean seriously, before one writes off the .js size, consider the number of plugins necessary for jQuery to be usable in most cases for providing a true application-like experience. Don't kid yourself. I&E is the most frequent point of failure, and Apple has a history of nailing it on a cross and becoming worshiped. At least they're banking on JavaScript and not some proprietary Silverlight bullshit. :) Some of you guys just don’t get it.

They aren’t trying to compete with jQuery / Prototype / YUI / or Flash. Apple’s move is to provide a seamless experience for which neither of the technologies are necessarily capable of producing in a fashion that suits Apple’s strive for perfection and useable technology/UI. jQuery UI demo pieces aren’t that spectacular either so settle down. Which brings me to implementation and execution.

I find some of the commentary rather humorous given the lifespan of the aforementioned javascript frameworks, and how poorly most of them have been implemented. Seriously, take a hard look before being overly vocal about premature coverage of a framework that’s incomplete. And I mean seriously, before one writes off the .js size, consider the number of plugins necessary for jQuery to be usable in most cases for providing a true application-like experience. Don’t kid yourself.

I&E is the most frequent point of failure, and Apple has a history of nailing it on a cross and becoming worshiped. At least they’re banking on JavaScript and not some proprietary Silverlight bullshit. :)

]]> By: Adobe Breakthrough! Flash Working on the iPhone . . . In The Labs, On An Emulator, Oh Well http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2376928 Adobe Breakthrough! Flash Working on the iPhone . . . In The Labs, On An Emulator, Oh Well Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:54:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2376928 [...] again, there is always SproutCore, the Javascript framework behind Apple’s MobileMe service that can be used to build other “‘thick’ client applications in the Web [...] [...] again, there is always SproutCore, the Javascript framework behind Apple’s MobileMe service that can be used to build other “‘thick’ client applications in the Web [...]

]]> By: Max M. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2369267 Max M. Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:59:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2369267 Oh yes that's going to suck really bad time for mobileme if they are using that to power their new apps. You can probably say bye bye to use any of the new 'web apps' on your iPhone too since that JS framework is so big and a memory hog! I remember using the gallery stuff of .Mac on Windows XP and oh man that was so terrible even on a fast network... If they really wanted something light they should have used moo.fx : http://moofx.mad4milk.net/ Oh yes that’s going to suck really bad time for mobileme if they are using that to power their new apps.
You can probably say bye bye to use any of the new ‘web apps’ on your iPhone too since that JS framework is so big and a memory hog!
I remember using the gallery stuff of .Mac on Windows XP and oh man that was so terrible even on a fast network…
If they really wanted something light they should have used moo.fx : http://moofx.mad4milk.net/

]]> By: Mel D. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2368979 Mel D. Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:27:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2368979 Wait, I don't see mobile me available anywhere.. when I go to me.com I see a placeholder page.. so how did the author know it is SproutCore? Hardly seems to be a breaking news... I have used the .Mac gallery before which used SproutCore and boy it is one slow sucker!! Wait, I don’t see mobile me available anywhere.. when I go to me.com I see a placeholder page.. so how did the author know it is SproutCore? Hardly seems to be a breaking news… I have used the .Mac gallery before which used SproutCore and boy it is one slow sucker!!

]]> By: bart http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2367017 bart Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:43:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2367017 have any one seen pic lens? What did they add again ? I currently use it for mail they demoied features for mail which is already there in the current Webmail( nov 2006???!?). Only thing different is the dock!! I know I won't be renewing. have any one seen pic lens? What did they add again ? I currently use it for mail they demoied features for mail which is already there in the current Webmail( nov 2006???!?). Only thing different is the dock!! I know I won’t be renewing.

]]> By: android http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2365151 android Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:49:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2365151 There is only so much that javascript in the browser can do, no matter what cool name and branding you give it. Ajax is awesome for other things. Here is a different take on online galleries: http://www.fotagraft.com There is only so much that javascript in the browser can do, no matter what cool name and branding you give it. Ajax is awesome for other things. Here is a different take on online galleries: http://www.fotagraft.com

]]> By: NeoLurker http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2365052 NeoLurker Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:09:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2365052 Man that thing sucks a$$. What is it supposed to do again? Man that thing sucks a$$. What is it supposed to do again?

]]> By: DaveS http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364976 DaveS Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:28:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364976 Wanna check out MobileMe Galleries? See .Mac galleries! http://gallery.mac.com/emily_parker Wanna check out MobileMe Galleries? See .Mac galleries!

http://gallery.mac.com/emily_parker

]]> By: Pandrogas http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364973 Pandrogas Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:22:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364973 Interesting, but I just looked at the SproutCore demos and I'm not very impressed with them. Interesting, but I just looked at the SproutCore demos and I’m not very impressed with them.

]]> By: chris c http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364962 chris c Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:13:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364962 $99..huh? I am guessing when android come out, Google will package all it's exisiting free services (gmail, google notebook, google docs, PICASA, google calender, google sites, etc) into one nice package for....here it comes...anyone want to guess?.....$100....no......$98.....OK, I'll tell you then..........FREE $99..huh? I am guessing when android come out, Google will package all it’s exisiting free services (gmail, google notebook, google docs, PICASA, google calender, google sites, etc) into one nice package for….here it comes…anyone want to guess?…..$100….no……$98…..OK, I’ll tell you then……….FREE

]]> By: Sobre el nuevo gadget de Apple | Bitperbit http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364854 Sobre el nuevo gadget de Apple | Bitperbit Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:33:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364854 [...] nos intentan vender un producto pobre en características por un precio bastante alto. Es más, Michael Arrington nos hace referencia a SproutCore, el framework de JavaScript con el que fue construido MobileMe. [...] [...] nos intentan vender un producto pobre en características por un precio bastante alto. Es más, Michael Arrington nos hace referencia a SproutCore, el framework de JavaScript con el que fue construido MobileMe. [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » アップルのMobileMeを試してみたい人は、SproutCoreをチェックしよう http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364751 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » アップルのMobileMeを試してみたい人は、SproutCoreをチェックしよう Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:11:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364751 [...] [原文へ] [...] [...] [原文へ] [...]

]]> By: John Sanders http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364726 John Sanders Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:57:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364726 Isn't SproutCore the same crappy stuff used in .Mac? It sucked and was a huge ass script.. why is this touted as super cool? From a previous daring fireball comment "the Carousel feature is Flash, the rest is AJAX. And the gallery.js JavaScript file is 10,000 lines and weighs 408 KB. (Great for EDGE!)" Isn’t SproutCore the same crappy stuff used in .Mac? It sucked and was a huge ass script.. why is this touted as super cool? From a previous daring fireball comment “the Carousel feature is Flash, the rest is AJAX. And the gallery.js JavaScript file is 10,000 lines and weighs 408 KB. (Great for EDGE!)”

]]> By: jeffbart http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364719 jeffbart Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:52:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364719 Never lets geeks review consumer software. they completely miss the point. it's lost on them. Never lets geeks review consumer software. they completely miss the point. it’s lost on them.

]]> By: Robert http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364703 Robert Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:33:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364703 Wow, that's HORRIBLE slow. I also didn't see very many features. Opacity? Uhm... what is the point? Rotation? It's not even enabled! I'm not just speaking out of my ass either on this. I created http://worldofsolitaire.com and I certainly realize what amazing things can be created with JavaScript. If I were Apple, I'd try and keep the fact that this is what they based their new product on to a bare minimum. Wow, that’s HORRIBLE slow.
I also didn’t see very many features. Opacity? Uhm… what is the point?
Rotation? It’s not even enabled!

I’m not just speaking out of my ass either on this. I created http://worldofsolitaire.com and I certainly realize what amazing things can be created with JavaScript.

If I were Apple, I’d try and keep the fact that this is what they based their new product on to a bare minimum.

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364659 Matt Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:00:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364659 I need to learn to read the article before I rush off to the sites... :roll: I was ready to go sync some photos... lol... (i agree with #3. the resize slider was mad choppy... not a very smooth experience. The web browser is just ill prepared to offer the functionality of the desktop... nothing against the developers of sproutcore... great library... just that the web is not ready for stuff like this.) I need to learn to read the article before I rush off to the sites… :roll:

I was ready to go sync some photos… lol… (i agree with #3. the resize slider was mad choppy… not a very smooth experience. The web browser is just ill prepared to offer the functionality of the desktop… nothing against the developers of sproutcore… great library… just that the web is not ready for stuff like this.)

]]> By: Marcin Grodzicki http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364602 Marcin Grodzicki Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:23:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364602 The MobileMe could be a bit cheaper though - I'd be more than happy to ditch dozen of services I currently use for a one-stop-fully-functional service but paying 99USD per year for that still seems a bit steep (although I am aware that it probably gives the right value for the dollar). Still, it looks like a well done service, especially if everything works as seamlessly as on the demo. The MobileMe could be a bit cheaper though - I’d be more than happy to ditch dozen of services I currently use for a one-stop-fully-functional service but paying 99USD per year for that still seems a bit steep (although I am aware that it probably gives the right value for the dollar). Still, it looks like a well done service, especially if everything works as seamlessly as on the demo.

]]> By: Michael Dennis Smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364563 Michael Dennis Smith Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:06:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364563 Could TC cover my search engine, http://www.z-portal.uni.cc/ Could TC cover my search engine, http://www.z-portal.uni.cc/

]]> By: Don Wilson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364549 Don Wilson Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:02:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364549 Hopefully it's not that bad. Hopefully it’s not that bad.

]]> By: Man of Steel http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364541 Man of Steel Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:01:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364541 I like how technology is making it easier to share a person(s) experiences as time goes on. I like how technology is making it easier to share a person(s) experiences as time goes on.

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364531 John Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:58:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/want-to-try-out-mobileme-check-out-sproutcore/#comment-2364531 iPhoto clone... agreed. iPhoto clone… agreed.

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