Comments on: Location-Tracking Startup Sense Networks Emerges from Stealth To Answer the Question: Where Is Everybody? http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:50:14 -0800 hourly 1 By: $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Spin Valley Post http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2830178 $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Spin Valley Post Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2830178 [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...] [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...]

]]> By: $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Newsfed - Aggregate local and tech stories with related videos and tweets! http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2830057 $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Newsfed - Aggregate local and tech stories with related videos and tweets! Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:59:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2830057 [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...] [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...]

]]> By: $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. : BizzRoot http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2830045 $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. : BizzRoot Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:53:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2830045 [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...] [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...]

]]> By: $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Stoth http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2829964 $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Stoth Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:01:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2829964 [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...] [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...]

]]> By: $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Geek News and Musings http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2829957 $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. | Geek News and Musings Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:56:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2829957 [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...] [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...]

]]> By: $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2829873 $6 Million For Sense Networks? Makes Sense. Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:02:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2829873 [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...] [...] Erick’s review when the company first emerged out of stealth mode: “The company ingests billions of data points about people’s location from cell phones, GPS [...]

]]> By: Nelson Real Estate » Coming Soon, Street Corner near……location based GPS http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2776108 Nelson Real Estate » Coming Soon, Street Corner near……location based GPS Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:26:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2776108 [...] Over time, it learns about where you like to go (fancy restaurants or punk rock clubs) and shows you other people like you, and where they are-right now. And it does all of this anonymously. (You can’t see your where [...] [...] Over time, it learns about where you like to go (fancy restaurants or punk rock clubs) and shows you other people like you, and where they are-right now. And it does all of this anonymously. (You can’t see your where [...]

]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="821295726">Kenneth Trueman</fb:name> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2643485 Kenneth Trueman Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:10:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2643485 Sense Networks were recently profiled in this BusinessWeek article as well: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_10/b4122042889229.htm?chan=magazine+channel_the+future+of+tech Sense Networks were recently profiled in this BusinessWeek article as well:

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]]> By: Videos | itechlife.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2500866 Videos | itechlife.com Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:30:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2500866 [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...] [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...]

]]> By: The Future of Media » Blog Archive » BerryStore sweetens BlackBerry app market http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2495711 The Future of Media » Blog Archive » BerryStore sweetens BlackBerry app market Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:49:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2495711 [...] to sell applications in the future. There are about 40 free applications in the store—Citysense, TwitterBerry, and Viigo being some my favorites. Developers can get more information on the [...] [...] to sell applications in the future. There are about 40 free applications in the store—Citysense, TwitterBerry, and Viigo being some my favorites. Developers can get more information on the [...]

]]> By: Forget The Blackberry “Application Center.” The BerryStore Will Have Better Apps. | TellyComm http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2493845 Forget The Blackberry “Application Center.” The BerryStore Will Have Better Apps. | TellyComm Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:57:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2493845 [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...] [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...]

]]> By: Forget The Blackberry “Application Center.” The BerryStore Will Have Better Apps. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2493428 Forget The Blackberry “Application Center.” The BerryStore Will Have Better Apps. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:50:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2493428 [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...] [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...]

]]> By: Forget The Blackberry “Application Center.” The BerryStore Will Have Better Apps. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2493364 Forget The Blackberry “Application Center.” The BerryStore Will Have Better Apps. Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:27:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2493364 [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...] [...] Already there are about 40 apps in the store, ranging from Loopt, 3Jam, and TwitterBerry to Obopay, Citysense, and Google Mobile. All of them are currently free, although the company plans on offering paid [...]

]]> By: Dan Lewis http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2370399 Dan Lewis Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:00:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2370399 Being able to track an individual throughout the day will require location information from their personal device. While Sense has other ideas for getting location data (e.g., taxis, laptop wifi) these options do not provide the personal, individual tracking required for their tribes idea (see their website). Also, I highly doubt that they're working directly with the carriers on this to get location data. If I'm correct, they'll only be able to get data from smartphones that allow 3rd party apps to be installed and have O/S that give access to the core resources of the phone. Also, only with carriers who give access to the GPS information on their devices. Some carriers have disabled the A-GPS chip they put into many phones for all uses except E911. I don't think cell tower triangulation will be enough... and wi-fi has limitations for trying to track the movement of someone throughout a city (its good at saying where you are now). That might be good enough. The biggest challenge that I see is battery life. Using a cell phone to ping for GPS locations frequently, and running WiFi as you move around the city on your phone will kill batteries quickly. They'll need to convince people to leave Wi-Fi on, let themselves be tracked, and quickly drain their battery. I think its a fantastic idea, and I hope they've worked out some of these issues. Being able to track an individual throughout the day will require location information from their personal device. While Sense has other ideas for getting location data (e.g., taxis, laptop wifi) these options do not provide the personal, individual tracking required for their tribes idea (see their website).

Also, I highly doubt that they’re working directly with the carriers on this to get location data. If I’m correct, they’ll only be able to get data from smartphones that allow 3rd party apps to be installed and have O/S that give access to the core resources of the phone. Also, only with carriers who give access to the GPS information on their devices. Some carriers have disabled the A-GPS chip they put into many phones for all uses except E911.

I don’t think cell tower triangulation will be enough… and wi-fi has limitations for trying to track the movement of someone throughout a city (its good at saying where you are now). That might be good enough.

The biggest challenge that I see is battery life. Using a cell phone to ping for GPS locations frequently, and running WiFi as you move around the city on your phone will kill batteries quickly. They’ll need to convince people to leave Wi-Fi on, let themselves be tracked, and quickly drain their battery.

I think its a fantastic idea, and I hope they’ve worked out some of these issues.

]]> By: Tuumra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2367073 Tuumra Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:54:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2367073 Great. Now people will flock to large heat spots only to find themselves in the middle of a riot. Great. Now people will flock to large heat spots only to find themselves in the middle of a riot.

]]> By: Here Come The New iPhone Apps : New Web 2.0 Magazine http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2365738 Here Come The New iPhone Apps : New Web 2.0 Magazine Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:03:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2365738 [...] Nightlife tracker. Let’s you see the city’s hot spots by showing heat maps of where people are via their cell phones and other signal-emitting mobile [...] [...] Nightlife tracker. Let’s you see the city’s hot spots by showing heat maps of where people are via their cell phones and other signal-emitting mobile [...]

]]> By: Wil http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364871 Wil Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:55:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364871 Sadly, I really want to demo this but I get error "907: Invalid COD" on my Blackberry Curve from Sprint. Anyone from Sense reading this? There's no contact info on the citysense.com web site; I'm guessing that's by design since you guys are still in alpha. Sadly, I really want to demo this but I get error “907: Invalid COD” on my Blackberry Curve from Sprint.

Anyone from Sense reading this? There’s no contact info on the citysense.com web site; I’m guessing that’s by design since you guys are still in alpha.

]]> By: johnny http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364801 johnny Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:52:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364801 anyone know definitively where they get their data from? something does not make sense. it seems at least from what i read they they bought their historical data from a cell phone company, but they claim they return realtime data. from their website "Citysense is an application that operates on the Sense Networks Macrosense platform, which analyzes massive amounts of aggregate, anonymous location data in real-time. " where is the massive amount of data coming from if they just launched??? anyone know definitively where they get their data from? something does not make sense. it seems at least from what i read they they bought their historical data from a cell phone company, but they claim they return realtime data.

from their website “Citysense is an application that operates on the Sense Networks Macrosense platform, which analyzes massive amounts of aggregate, anonymous location data in real-time. ”

where is the massive amount of data coming from if they just launched???

]]> By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » June 9th blogging - '08 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364738 Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » June 9th blogging - '08 Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:04:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364738 [...] DestroyFlickr, Barbie Girls V.I.P., My Team Zone, OurPlanet, SproutCore, Viewzi, Sense Networks, [...] [...] DestroyFlickr, Barbie Girls V.I.P., My Team Zone, OurPlanet, SproutCore, Viewzi, Sense Networks, [...]

]]> By: Harry Wang http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364491 Harry Wang Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:40:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364491 Very slick. I hope they open up an API for this. At the least, return a "heat" number for a given coordinate or something. That would make for some great third-party apps (standalone or within social networks). Harry "this would help the clueless with their social lives" Wang Very slick. I hope they open up an API for this. At the least, return a “heat” number for a given coordinate or something. That would make for some great third-party apps (standalone or within social networks).

Harry “this would help the clueless with their social lives” Wang

]]> By: Emily Williams http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364411 Emily Williams Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:56:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364411 Little bit stalker-ish but also very cool...never again show up at a supposedly great bar only to find it's dead that night! Little bit stalker-ish but also very cool…never again show up at a supposedly great bar only to find it’s dead that night!

]]> By: medilicious http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364410 medilicious Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:53:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364410 ...now imagine this on our new wet dream iPhone 3G... moving back to the states N O W! …now imagine this on our new wet dream iPhone 3G… moving back to the states N O W!

]]> By: KillerStartups.com - CitySense.com - Mobile Signals Tell Where\'s Hot http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364333 KillerStartups.com - CitySense.com - Mobile Signals Tell Where\'s Hot Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:19:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364333 <strong>CitySense.com - Mobile Signals Tell Where\'s Hot...</strong> I found your entry interesting do I've added a Trackback to it on my weblog :)... CitySense.com – Mobile Signals Tell Where\’s Hot…

I found your entry interesting do I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog :) …

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364309 John Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:12:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364309 Actually, these guys look like they have it down. I'm excited to get it. Actually, these guys look like they have it down. I’m excited to get it.

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/comment-page-1/#comment-2364296 John Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:06:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/location-tracking-startup-sense-networks-emerges-from-stealth-to-answer-the-question-where-is-everybody/#comment-2364296 These kinds of apps are going to be pretty awesome, but it seems like there should be some more functionality on top. Here are some opinions about this from KPCB: http://www.zintin.com/blog/2008/06/great-iphone-applications/ These kinds of apps are going to be pretty awesome, but it seems like there should be some more functionality on top. Here are some opinions about this from KPCB: http://www.zint...e-applications/

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