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	<title>Comments on: Live: Panel Meets To Discuss &#8216;The Future of Media&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: UAE Free Classifieds</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2983377</link>
		<dc:creator>UAE Free Classifieds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think future and nowadays belongs to e-medias.  Newspapers and magazines can&#039;t show us videos, other peoples opinions = they are not interactive, and without that no one can make competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think future and nowadays belongs to e-medias.  Newspapers and magazines can&#8217;t show us videos, other peoples opinions = they are not interactive, and without that no one can make competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Kazelyol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazelyol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kazelsco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazelsco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi webmaster!</description>
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		<title>By: lexapro</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexapro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: buyphentermi</title>
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		<dc:creator>buyphentermi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: reallyreally</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2389777</link>
		<dc:creator>reallyreally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: juicyaregerm</title>
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		<dc:creator>juicyaregerm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: housesiteboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yesuglyameri</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goenglandoce</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ravodiy ujxk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2361805</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: J.C. Butler</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2351502</link>
		<dc:creator>J.C. Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How was there an hour discussion on the future of news media without mention of the two largest news medias on the web (cnn.com &amp; bbc.co.uk)?  Why didn&#039;t anyone propose the question &quot;Why has televised news had so much more success in transitioning to the new online news media than print?&quot;  This is especially interesting when you consider that (at least until quite recently) the vast majority of content is news in the form of text rather than video.

Secondly, these journalists (and seemingly the investors behind their companies), don&#039;t know how to properly evaluate the web business and therefore miss the point completely.  They look at a site with similar traffic to their readership and if it&#039;s not pulling in comparable revenue, they see it as a failure.  I&#039;m certain that cnn.com, albeit one of the most trafficked sites in the world, pulls in only a fraction of what the network makes - perhaps that&#039;s why no one mentioned it.  But what they don&#039;t realize is that proves nothing.  One of the more interesting points was made from the New York Post journalist when he was speaking on advertisers on televised media.  He said that although the viewers may be dwindling (what was once 20 million is now 15 million), advertisers still want to spend to reach that 15 million.  Why?  Because they have years upon years of experience in reaching consumers in that medium.  The same goes for print.  Both publishers and advertisers would be pleased for the consumer&#039;s behavior not to change.  Maybe that&#039;s why advertisers are resisting the change as much as the print publishers.  Either way, the consumers don&#039;t care, their moving online and not looking back - even David Carr admitted that.

So perhaps the answer to the question: &quot;Why do eyeballs in print media bring in more revenue than eyeballs online?&quot; is simple economics.  For the short term, the supply far exceeds the demand.  Of course as the readership in print continues to evaporate, advertisers will have to learn a new art form, and advertising dollars will flow elsewhere.  Cnn.com will be sitting pretty, and the print dinosaurs will lament their short sightedness.

And in response to a point Michael Wolff made about the reason web media makes less money is because it&#039;s more cost effective.  What?  The suggestion that advertisers will spend less money on advertising because advertising has become more effective is a comically flawed theory.  Had he not extended his freshmen summer vaca and missed the first day of Econ 1 he would have learned that technology booms expand economies not vice versa.  Regardless, whoever does end up paying his salary 10 years from now, it certainly won&#039;t be The Economist.  I still love VF, however, on the rare occasion I have time to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How was there an hour discussion on the future of news media without mention of the two largest news medias on the web (cnn.com &amp; bbc.co.uk)?  Why didn&#8217;t anyone propose the question &#8220;Why has televised news had so much more success in transitioning to the new online news media than print?&#8221;  This is especially interesting when you consider that (at least until quite recently) the vast majority of content is news in the form of text rather than video.</p>
<p>Secondly, these journalists (and seemingly the investors behind their companies), don&#8217;t know how to properly evaluate the web business and therefore miss the point completely.  They look at a site with similar traffic to their readership and if it&#8217;s not pulling in comparable revenue, they see it as a failure.  I&#8217;m certain that cnn.com, albeit one of the most trafficked sites in the world, pulls in only a fraction of what the network makes &#8211; perhaps that&#8217;s why no one mentioned it.  But what they don&#8217;t realize is that proves nothing.  One of the more interesting points was made from the New York Post journalist when he was speaking on advertisers on televised media.  He said that although the viewers may be dwindling (what was once 20 million is now 15 million), advertisers still want to spend to reach that 15 million.  Why?  Because they have years upon years of experience in reaching consumers in that medium.  The same goes for print.  Both publishers and advertisers would be pleased for the consumer&#8217;s behavior not to change.  Maybe that&#8217;s why advertisers are resisting the change as much as the print publishers.  Either way, the consumers don&#8217;t care, their moving online and not looking back &#8211; even David Carr admitted that.</p>
<p>So perhaps the answer to the question: &#8220;Why do eyeballs in print media bring in more revenue than eyeballs online?&#8221; is simple economics.  For the short term, the supply far exceeds the demand.  Of course as the readership in print continues to evaporate, advertisers will have to learn a new art form, and advertising dollars will flow elsewhere.  Cnn.com will be sitting pretty, and the print dinosaurs will lament their short sightedness.</p>
<p>And in response to a point Michael Wolff made about the reason web media makes less money is because it&#8217;s more cost effective.  What?  The suggestion that advertisers will spend less money on advertising because advertising has become more effective is a comically flawed theory.  Had he not extended his freshmen summer vaca and missed the first day of Econ 1 he would have learned that technology booms expand economies not vice versa.  Regardless, whoever does end up paying his salary 10 years from now, it certainly won&#8217;t be The Economist.  I still love VF, however, on the rare occasion I have time to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Introducing A New TechCrunch Video Project: Elevator Pitches</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350413</link>
		<dc:creator>Introducing A New TechCrunch Video Project: Elevator Pitches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hinted at this project before, but earlier today I spilled the beans at a panel I was on at NYU for Internet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sprague</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350401</link>
		<dc:creator>Sprague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Wolff? Oh God... here comes the pain.</description>
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		<title>By: SimonSays</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350400</link>
		<dc:creator>SimonSays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not Newser -&gt; SNOOZER</description>
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		<title>By: SimonSays</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350399</link>
		<dc:creator>SimonSays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CIRCLEJERK.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Woelker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350360</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Woelker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Frank. Newser? I&#039;ll have to check that out.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Church</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350327</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff, The Vanity Fair guy is actually behind Newser (sp?) which is an aggregator with pretty pictures (you know, for those that are scared by acronyms like RSS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff, The Vanity Fair guy is actually behind Newser (sp?) which is an aggregator with pretty pictures (you know, for those that are scared by acronyms like RSS).</p>
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		<title>By: Gubatron</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350322</link>
		<dc:creator>Gubatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be at DiggNation Live, at Studio B in Greenpoint.
Anyone else coming?</description>
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Anyone else coming?</p>
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		<title>By: MrCashyCash</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350320</link>
		<dc:creator>MrCashyCash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalists don&#039;t know.

 Why not ask the Entrepreneurs who will actually create the changes?!</description>
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<p> Why not ask the Entrepreneurs who will actually create the changes?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Woelker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Woelker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Brent - You beat me to it. Why is Erick the only one representing &quot;new media&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Brent &#8211; You beat me to it. Why is Erick the only one representing &#8220;new media&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350124</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it kinda funny watching old school media trying to wrap themselves around new school media. Welcome to the new world, there is no wrapper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it kinda funny watching old school media trying to wrap themselves around new school media. Welcome to the new world, there is no wrapper.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/04/live-panel-meets-to-discuss-the-future-of-media/comment-page-1/#comment-2350115</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The future of media? An interesting question, though not likely one which will be answered by journalists. In my opinion...</description>
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		<title>By: 1st</title>
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		<dc:creator>1st</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woo hoo! ME FIRST ME FIRST! 

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