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By: The Far Edge » Blog Archive » The Freemium Model And A Desktop App Get The Thumbs Up With Pandora One

Thu, 21 May 2009 17:38:59 +0000

[...] once before, but it was basically just the Pandora web version ported to AIR — complete with ads. We didn’t like it too much, and neither did Pandora, which killed it. This new one is a lot like the iPhone app, which is to [...]

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Wed, 20 May 2009 11:30:34 +0000

[...] was basically just the Pandora web version ported to AIR — complete with ads. We didn’t like it too much, and neither did Pandora, which killed it. This new one is a lot like the [...]

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Wed, 20 May 2009 10:21:06 +0000

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Wed, 20 May 2009 08:45:28 +0000

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The Freemium Model And A Desktop App Get The Thumbs Up With Pandora One — Wed, 20 May 2009 07:36:19 +0000

[...] AIR app once before, but it basically just the Pandora web version ported to AIR complete with ads. We didn’t like it too much, and neither did Pandora, which killed [...]

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:55:31 +0000

50% of your CPU? i don’t know what kind of a processor you have in that MacBook of yours, but it only uses 2-3% of the CPU on my HP laptop running Vista. Maybe there’s some other issue there.

By: denis

denis — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:37:31 +0000

as noted by many others, the cpu usage of this thing is completely absurd. that this actually got through QA and released to the public makes me wonder if Pandora has much a vision for where they’re going……uninstalling now…..

By: Aaron Marks

Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:55:44 +0000

I love the functionality and flexibility provided by a Pandora App, but unfortunately the CPU demands make this solution unusable. Running Pandora through AIR pings my Quad Core Mac Pro to 150% to 180% CPU usage and it just hovers there.

By: freshAIRapps

freshAIRapps — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:10:26 +0000

I think Pandora have really got this wrong. Not only could I not review it for my Adobe AIR showcase site, http://freshAIRapps.com because I’m outside of the US, the feedback I have heard is it’s just the web in an AIR runtime.

This is not what AIR was designed for, yes you can do it but they should have really looked into what others are doing and produced a real winner.

freshAIRapps.com

By: matt

matt — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:00:39 +0000

I don’t see a problem with the AIR app matching the browser UI. The real benefit here (to me) is that pandora will stay running even if my browser crashes — which happens every couple days on my lovely Vista machine (both IE 7 and latest Firefox)

For me the ability to access it outside the browser is a big plus, and the existing UI is flashy enough (no pun intended)

By: DJMonty

DJMonty — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:16:18 +0000

Have you tried Live365’s desktop application? It has a totally different UI than its Web site. It offers multiple skins, presets, tracks info…like a real standalone media player does. Go to http://www.live365.com/desktop

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Pandora Arrives on the Desktop — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:12:00 +0000

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By: Douglas

Douglas — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:03:24 +0000

The FoxyTunes extension for Firefox lets you control most popular music apps, including Pandora, from the status bar at the bottom of the browser. It still requires that Pandora be open in the browser, so it’s not crash-proof, but it does save you the step of leaving whatever page you’re on if you want to skip a song, get lyrics, etc.

FoxyTunes is supported in FF3.
https://addons....refox/addon/219

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:28:08 +0000

Would somebody please create a “free” social network, where any user can create their own radio station, and/or subscribe to the stations of any other user. Where all the songs are all a) free of cost, b) free of the DCMA, c) free mp3’s, d) free of the spam-like multi-multi pop-up tactics of Live365.com, e) free of spam-like song-forcing and mandatory clicking tactics of Pandora.com, f) free of traditional spam-like radio/tv tactics of blasting some content louder than others. I want many “free” stations to pick from, with legitimate music, with attribution to the artists, I don’t care if it’s from major artists, I want to minimize on my screen and play it all day, and all night while I sleep. Without ever being annoyed by anything.

By: david

david — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:31:26 +0000

An AIR application for Pandora? I thought that’s what Safari was for?

By: David

David — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:17:38 +0000

I think the objective is to get on the desktop for the non-US market

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:15:32 +0000

@27 gresh, I can listen to dozens of 20 second “sound bites” in succession at Amazon (and other resellers), with no DMCA impact. And I usually make up my mind within 5-10 seconds if I don’t want the song. So I don’t understand why I’m forced to listen to entire songs that I detest at Pandora — even if I’m a payer.

I’d be happy to listen to independents, and do without the “major” labels, as long as I didn’t have Pandora forcing their dubious suggestions on my ears.

And I’d happily entertain all paid offerings Pandora has, but there was only one last I checked, and it makes it quite clear that there’s a “skip limit” — which is a nice way of saying they’re going to push whatever they want at me, whether I’m a payer or not.

One overlooked issue is, their suggested songs do not match my taste. I really doubt the DMCA has anything to do with it — my guess is that it’s their marketing people inflicting themselves onto their customers. I’m looking for alternatives to Pandora, “currently” they’re unacceptable.

By: gresh

gresh — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:33:46 +0000

@23 Chuck: the “skip limit” is required to keep online audio streamers (like both Pandora and my company) in compliance with the DMCA and our contracts with the major labels. There’s nothing web streamers can do about that, short of charging you a sizable money to put you in a different tier of service.

By: Ayush Gupta

Ayush Gupta — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:31:32 +0000

Not sure about this app but Pandora gets my love! I have discovered so much of the kind of music that I live with it.

By: Adam Wexler

Adam Wexler — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:24:26 +0000

I’m a full believer Pandora will not sell out any time soon. They are trying to create the most passive and enjoyable user listening experience. Whether the AIR is a hit right now does not matter…they’ll make the necessary tweaks. To whoever metioned adding ads between songs: that would be terrible. that’s one of main separating factors from terrestrial radio.

By: Brook B

Brook B — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:39:24 +0000

From whose perspective is this a bad design?

- As a user I want a consistent experience across web, desktop, and mobile and have the expectation that those 3 options will be available to me.

- A product team wants to offer a consistent marketing story and has constraints on funding and time to meet user demand. Being able to offer a reusable platform across web, desktop, and mobile is an ideal.

- If an application platform whether it be from Adobe, Microsoft, open source, etc can offer a code once deploy anywhere scenario it is a success.

- Dominant music services should be taking note of this design. There are a lot of heavy desktop client applications attempting to figure out how to rewrite a web strategy.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:27:18 +0000

Clicking a green-thumb-up on songs I like is a good idea. However, Pandora limits the number of times I can click on the red-thumb-down — after which they force me to listen to entire songs that I dislike. This is sort of like having to fully “read” every spam that appears in my in-box. So even if I could stand building my own channel, I could never listen to it, without hearing all the unwanted songs that they force on me. Last time I checked, I can’t pay my way of their song-spam either — read their pay-TOS or Google it.

Another problem with Pandora is, it stops playing without regular interaction. I’d like to minimize it as background music, or sleep by it, without constantly having to click something. I’m willing to pay, but Pandora drove me away.

By: Rick C

Rick C — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:15:22 +0000

I downloaded the Pandora AIR app, it’s running right now on my laptop. It uses 2% of CPU, which doesn’t seem like a big problem. When I minimize the app, it just leaves a little icon in the tray, also no big deal. I am not seeing the need for all the complaining. However, I do pay the annual subscription fee to Pandora so that I can get it through my Sonos at home, so maybe I am getting a different (no ad) view? Do other people keep it maximized while it plays? If not, why is the skin such a big deal? I pick a station, minimize it, and let it play.

Pandora is wonderful, Tom and the company have done an awesome job with it. The combo of Pandora and Sonos has changed the way we listen to music at home.

By: Tom Conrad

Tom Conrad — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:02:22 +0000

@PhilWil — yes this is very much a beta. In fact it’s really just a release from the “lab” to gauge interest in a Pandora desktop app and get feedback on this particular approach. The details are here:

http://blog.pan...the_lab_pa.html

@Chris, @Peer — we’re certainly working on advertising that doesn’t take away fromt he listening experience or aggravate. That’s difficult on the web and even harder on the desktop. We’ll sort it out, but that’s part of what we’re tinkering with as we experiment with this sort of thing.

@paul — CPU usage on the Mac is a huge problem right now. We’re working with Adobe on finding a solution. Agree that it’s not cutting it right now on the Mac.

Thanks for your feedback here… we’ll keep watching as it comes in here and you’re all invited to share any additional thoughts with beta-feedback@pandora.com.

Tom
CTO @ Pandora

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