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	<title>Comments on: Going Medieval: Time-Warner Begins Metered Bandwidth Testing</title>
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		<title>By: The real Web 2.0 shows its face — Shooting at Bubbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>The real Web 2.0 shows its face — Shooting at Bubbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 06:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Canadian Mark Evans suggests that none of these moves should come as a surprise and that like Michael Arrington; along with Mike Masnick, believe that this move will do nothing less than kill off any future [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Altro che singolarità tecnologica&#8230; &#124; ~</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2737395</link>
		<dc:creator>Altro che singolarità tecnologica&#8230; &#124; ~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/   Condividi! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tibbs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2604759</link>
		<dc:creator>Tibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time Warners so called unlimited acces to the internet at blazing speeds What CROOKS.
Time warner is nothing more than greedy and are interested in one thing only, new ways to rape the customers they have. I have never had any trouble with my services until I too started to stream movies over the net instead of using the 9000 chanels of infomercials and stupid reality shows on the cable service. Then all of a suden I am not able to maintain a reliable bandwidth conection. They tell me I need to purchase a more expensive service the so called turbo, what a joke. Big boast of speeds 10 to 15 Mbps with burst of up to 22Mbps. What they fail to tell anyone is the facts.. that speed only last for maybe a minute or two then your bandwidth is stepped on by the minute until you are geting less than 1Mbps. Big ploy to decieve the customers and make even more money on the service. They always tell you to go to the same missleading speed test site that is not showing the customer the corect speed of your internet conection FACT..then they feed you to standard lines of bull...it&#039;s your pc...it&#039;s your router etc... they never tell you the truth that they are steping on your usage and controling it even when they say &quot;they are not&quot;. When I explained I am not the average customer who can not tell the differance, I am monitoring my bandwidth in real time live software and I can watch them step on the service. Time warners responce ? &quot;even with turbo we do not gaurantee and speeds not even 1Mbps steady conection &quot; So simple facts.. they are happy to take my money and tell me I am paying for a service of 10 to 15 Mbps with up to 22Mbps.... But in reality not even provide the basic speeds. And they fail to tell you that the router they give you is set on a fixed bandwidth usage per week. I have been paying for all the services they offer for far too long. I guess I know what fat to trim from my monthly bills</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time Warners so called unlimited acces to the internet at blazing speeds What CROOKS.<br />
Time warner is nothing more than greedy and are interested in one thing only, new ways to rape the customers they have. I have never had any trouble with my services until I too started to stream movies over the net instead of using the 9000 chanels of infomercials and stupid reality shows on the cable service. Then all of a suden I am not able to maintain a reliable bandwidth conection. They tell me I need to purchase a more expensive service the so called turbo, what a joke. Big boast of speeds 10 to 15 Mbps with burst of up to 22Mbps. What they fail to tell anyone is the facts.. that speed only last for maybe a minute or two then your bandwidth is stepped on by the minute until you are geting less than 1Mbps. Big ploy to decieve the customers and make even more money on the service. They always tell you to go to the same missleading speed test site that is not showing the customer the corect speed of your internet conection FACT..then they feed you to standard lines of bull&#8230;it&#8217;s your pc&#8230;it&#8217;s your router etc&#8230; they never tell you the truth that they are steping on your usage and controling it even when they say &#8220;they are not&#8221;. When I explained I am not the average customer who can not tell the differance, I am monitoring my bandwidth in real time live software and I can watch them step on the service. Time warners responce ? &#8220;even with turbo we do not gaurantee and speeds not even 1Mbps steady conection &#8221; So simple facts.. they are happy to take my money and tell me I am paying for a service of 10 to 15 Mbps with up to 22Mbps&#8230;. But in reality not even provide the basic speeds. And they fail to tell you that the router they give you is set on a fixed bandwidth usage per week. I have been paying for all the services they offer for far too long. I guess I know what fat to trim from my monthly bills</p>
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		<title>By: Technology and Politics Collide at the 2008 Personal Democracy Forum &#124; www.Mudahkaya.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2601611</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology and Politics Collide at the 2008 Personal Democracy Forum &#124; www.Mudahkaya.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] agendas have begun to encroach on the technological freedoms we take for granted: As I wrote earlier this month, America is falling behind in broadband penetration and data speeds, due to the lack of serious [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as it&#039;s an optional pricing scheme. I might even save money.  I don&#039;t see an issue with this.  You have to look at things from both sides sometimes.  They have bandwidth costs.  Electric to power the routers and their servers.  This scheme was ok when people didn&#039;t use much bandwidth (what&#039;s it matter if you download a few games) now that things are becoming more bandwidth intensive TW is finding that the open policy is costing them quite a bit.  Now the key here is that time warner makes its a fair cost  per mega byte.  If things cost more per mb transfer people will start using bandwidth a bit better.  Compression codecs will continue to improve so we can send more info down the same pipes.  TW would have money to gradually improve the lines and and / replace more equipment.   Like mentioned alot of people would even SAVE money with a cost per/ mb pricing model.  I would look forward to it, some users would opt with the all you can use model.  As long as there are options This would not be much of an issue.   Like others mentioned also wireless keeps getting better and cheaper so compitition is on the way and the more TW attempts to screw people over the more finincal insentive there is to get wireless data out into the world .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as it&#8217;s an optional pricing scheme. I might even save money.  I don&#8217;t see an issue with this.  You have to look at things from both sides sometimes.  They have bandwidth costs.  Electric to power the routers and their servers.  This scheme was ok when people didn&#8217;t use much bandwidth (what&#8217;s it matter if you download a few games) now that things are becoming more bandwidth intensive TW is finding that the open policy is costing them quite a bit.  Now the key here is that time warner makes its a fair cost  per mega byte.  If things cost more per mb transfer people will start using bandwidth a bit better.  Compression codecs will continue to improve so we can send more info down the same pipes.  TW would have money to gradually improve the lines and and / replace more equipment.   Like mentioned alot of people would even SAVE money with a cost per/ mb pricing model.  I would look forward to it, some users would opt with the all you can use model.  As long as there are options This would not be much of an issue.   Like others mentioned also wireless keeps getting better and cheaper so compitition is on the way and the more TW attempts to screw people over the more finincal insentive there is to get wireless data out into the world .</p>
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		<title>By: Industry Trends: Internet Slow? Blame it on the “Bandwidth Hog”… &#171; TECH NOTES</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2462849</link>
		<dc:creator>Industry Trends: Internet Slow? Blame it on the “Bandwidth Hog”… &#171; TECH NOTES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] criticism is easy to condense: No one joyrides in a taxi. A plan like this, as its many opponents have noted, will cramp the freewheeling, inventive nature of the Internet. The Internet owes its success to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: faith</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2461100</link>
		<dc:creator>faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People use the interenet for many different uses. if you consider that most companies nolonger provide disks for their products.  These online disks often cost as much as the product would if in the store. Now you would have to pay download fees on top of it.
Graphic programs, upgrading programs, games all would cost extra. Granted there are some people out there we can call (grama suffers) those that don&#039;t do anything with there computers but send and recieve email and occationally check out e-bay.
But the internet is a buisness. To controll useage is like telling the population that does know how to use there computer they are going to be seperated into who has money and who doesn&#039;t have money.
Man can you imagine searching for something and getting a hundered video advertisements that eat up your bandwith. LOL and then find out that page doesn&#039;t have what you needed on it.
Some how I think were being scamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People use the interenet for many different uses. if you consider that most companies nolonger provide disks for their products.  These online disks often cost as much as the product would if in the store. Now you would have to pay download fees on top of it.<br />
Graphic programs, upgrading programs, games all would cost extra. Granted there are some people out there we can call (grama suffers) those that don&#8217;t do anything with there computers but send and recieve email and occationally check out e-bay.<br />
But the internet is a buisness. To controll useage is like telling the population that does know how to use there computer they are going to be seperated into who has money and who doesn&#8217;t have money.<br />
Man can you imagine searching for something and getting a hundered video advertisements that eat up your bandwith. LOL and then find out that page doesn&#8217;t have what you needed on it.<br />
Some how I think were being scamed.</p>
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		<title>By: It's official: Comcast starts 250GB bandwidth caps October 1 - Page 5 - Fires of Heaven Guild Message Board</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2451192</link>
		<dc:creator>It's official: Comcast starts 250GB bandwidth caps October 1 - Page 5 - Fires of Heaven Guild Message Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] being pushed by Time-Warner that will give users between 5 and 40 gigabytes in total monthly data usage (uploads and downloads combined). Data usage over that amount will be billed at $1 per gigabyte. Competitor Comcast is also considering metered bandwidth.    Going Medieval: Time-Warner Begins Metered Bandwidth Testing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] being pushed by Time-Warner that will give users between 5 and 40 gigabytes in total monthly data usage (uploads and downloads combined). Data usage over that amount will be billed at $1 per gigabyte. Competitor Comcast is also considering metered bandwidth.    Going Medieval: Time-Warner Begins Metered Bandwidth Testing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2400273</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought was in line with several of you. If they start this I&#039;d just switch to ATT. WRONG!

ATT recently announced plans to do the same thing. I don&#039;t have a reference, but you can google it same as me.

That means that both major internet providers in Austin TX will be doing the metered internet. I may just cancel my account with TW (both cable and internet) and drop to the $5 netflix version. Makes me mad, but in the long run I&#039;ll save money. Besides, I have internet at work....

I&#039;ll encourage everyone I know to do the same if they enact the ridiculous policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought was in line with several of you. If they start this I&#8217;d just switch to ATT. WRONG!</p>
<p>ATT recently announced plans to do the same thing. I don&#8217;t have a reference, but you can google it same as me.</p>
<p>That means that both major internet providers in Austin TX will be doing the metered internet. I may just cancel my account with TW (both cable and internet) and drop to the $5 netflix version. Makes me mad, but in the long run I&#8217;ll save money. Besides, I have internet at work&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll encourage everyone I know to do the same if they enact the ridiculous policy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pirate&#8217;s Dilemma : Editorial Emissions</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2397211</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pirate&#8217;s Dilemma : Editorial Emissions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And it&#8217;s already started. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jack Fetch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2393296</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Fetch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once this starts we will see lawsuits against any company that makes software that accesses the internet without user permission. That&#039;s most software out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once this starts we will see lawsuits against any company that makes software that accesses the internet without user permission. That&#8217;s most software out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon W</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2390279</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a huge step back for the internet, and I think this is going to bite them in the rear if they go through with it.  The problem with their reasoning is this:  In my area, my cable access goes fast; and it&#039;s just fine.  I get a good 400-800k on downloads, and that is fine with me.  So obviously the so-called five percent in my area has little to no affect on my connection...so obviously this is just bs and an excuse for them to do this.  If I&#039;m going to have to worry about going over my allowed gigs of data, I am going to switch to something else.  When unlimited downloading was introduced on dial-up, everyone had to move to unlimited or they lost business.  With the advent of different methods of accessing high-speed internet, this is sure to hurt the cable companies, and is a stupid move completely brought on by sheer greed.  FIOS is only the beginning, and I am betting that internet access via cell phones is only going to get faster and better, and is also moving towards unlimited usage.  Does anyone else find it humorous that every industry (dial-up internet, cell phone, etc.) gets more affordable overtime, but not cable tv/internet?  It&#039;s the only thing that seems to keep going up in price overtime (besides my monthly utility bill)...I wish they would bring more competition to this market; monopolies never benefit anyone.  I will switch to a slower connection rather than worry about my internet usage each month...that&#039;s why I switched from the dial-up connection I had back in the day to an unlimited.  Who wants to sit and worry about ANOTHER big bill coming in the mail?  I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a huge step back for the internet, and I think this is going to bite them in the rear if they go through with it.  The problem with their reasoning is this:  In my area, my cable access goes fast; and it&#8217;s just fine.  I get a good 400-800k on downloads, and that is fine with me.  So obviously the so-called five percent in my area has little to no affect on my connection&#8230;so obviously this is just bs and an excuse for them to do this.  If I&#8217;m going to have to worry about going over my allowed gigs of data, I am going to switch to something else.  When unlimited downloading was introduced on dial-up, everyone had to move to unlimited or they lost business.  With the advent of different methods of accessing high-speed internet, this is sure to hurt the cable companies, and is a stupid move completely brought on by sheer greed.  FIOS is only the beginning, and I am betting that internet access via cell phones is only going to get faster and better, and is also moving towards unlimited usage.  Does anyone else find it humorous that every industry (dial-up internet, cell phone, etc.) gets more affordable overtime, but not cable tv/internet?  It&#8217;s the only thing that seems to keep going up in price overtime (besides my monthly utility bill)&#8230;I wish they would bring more competition to this market; monopolies never benefit anyone.  I will switch to a slower connection rather than worry about my internet usage each month&#8230;that&#8217;s why I switched from the dial-up connection I had back in the day to an unlimited.  Who wants to sit and worry about ANOTHER big bill coming in the mail?  I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology and Politics Collide at the 2008 Personal Democracy Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology and Politics Collide at the 2008 Personal Democracy Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] agendas have begun to encroach on the technological freedoms we take for granted: As I wrote earlier this month, America is falling behind in broadband penetration and data speeds, due to the lack of serious [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Archive &#187; AT&#38;T considering bandwidth caps for DSL customers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2372998</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Archive &#187; AT&#38;T considering bandwidth caps for DSL customers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] heavy downloaders more than casual downloaders, crippling not only pirates but stifling legitimate innovation in the process. That&#8217;s what a spokesperson told the AP, though no specific plans have been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] heavy downloaders more than casual downloaders, crippling not only pirates but stifling legitimate innovation in the process. That&#8217;s what a spokesperson told the AP, though no specific plans have been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Squawk Box June 6 &#8212; Alec Saunders SquawkBox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squawk Box June 6 &#8212; Alec Saunders SquawkBox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Time Warner&#8217;s metered internet use trial. Om Malik says it&#8217;s the thin edge of the wedge. Calculations showed that the metered bandwidth was just enough to provide a non-compelling video experience. The call was full of Canadians who observed that we already have metered bandwidth usage in this country. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Time Warner&#8217;s metered internet use trial. Om Malik says it&#8217;s the thin edge of the wedge. Calculations showed that the metered bandwidth was just enough to provide a non-compelling video experience. The call was full of Canadians who observed that we already have metered bandwidth usage in this country. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2348809</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They say they are trying to punish the 5% but they also found a way to screw the other 95% by implementing a small cap as it is. The majority of households within America have atleast one computer and I would say a majority of those households have a gaming system (PS, XBOX, Wii). With this in mind you have the you have to taken into account what uses bandwith. All of these systems do, and if you have a home network with multiple computers and/or consoles that means you have that many more machines hooked up to the internet. 

With this in mind, which of these devices can you use to buy and download video games/movies/music. Answer: All of them. High definition movies on demand tolling up to 9GB, video games upwards to the same extent, on top of that Album downloads, and the list goes on. This of course is not mentioning Netflix&#039;s latest release of a home appliance that once hooked up to your TV and Netflix account is a few hundred thousand DVDs on-demand. Not to mention the Apples version that was released a bit earlier. You may be saying to yourself &quot;I just use the internet to check my email and browse the web&quot;. Guess what, those ads that pop-up all over the place and are part of those webpages aren&#039;t text. They are graphics that can add up quick and you pay for those too just like you pay for the commericals when you&#039;re watching TV, but there isn&#039;t a limit on how much TV you can watch.

I feel Time Warners bandwidth cap &quot;test market&quot; is a lead towards monoplizing it&#039;s grasp on on-demand video market, hindering Net Neutrality, and plain ol&#039; greedyness(I&#039;ll lead into why I think this later). I know that I may be jumping ahead of myself but when was the last time any of you saw a commercial for &quot;Unlimited bandwidth&quot; internet usage of late? After thinking about it for a while I would have to say I haven&#039;t seen one in quite a while, but why? That used to be the thing a few years back, terms like &quot;bandwidth caps&quot; and &quot;metered usage&quot; would get everyone laughing or making fun of you of saying, let alone thinking, of such a thing. If you think about it I just may be right and because of this I bring in the greed factor. The average broadband user pays between 30-50 bucks a month, right? Have you ever wondered where does that money go toward? 

I&#039;ve been with Time Warner for about 8 years now and I&#039;ve never had any &quot;big&quot; problems but as of lately once Comcast fiasco started I got to thinking, doesn&#039;t the fee I pay for my monthly internet access go towards not only maintaining the their network but provide funds towards upgrading it? If not, why and where does the money go? Now like I said I&#039;ve been and loyal customer to Time Warner for eight years and never thought I would consider leaving after Ted told the RIAA and MPAA to F themselves(in so many words) when the issue of Piracy came up. Not that I&#039;m a pirate but to have someone up high fighting for something that is blatantly right for a change, but I digress. It goes back to mutiple home appliances that can use bandwidth, for legal means, and end up screwing everyone when it comes to this cap, especially being at 40GB. So what does Time Warner say to the cap, well if you go over its $1 per 1GB. Right, so if you have company over or want to be lazy one weekend you sit in your favorite spot in the couch, grab the remote, browse one of several means of selecting on-demand videos/games, download, and let the entertainment beind but wait... you have to check your current usage, take into account well do I want to watch a couple movies or play a new video game. I don&#039;t really want to drive to the store with gas prices but I don&#039;t want to go over my limit. Ah screw it, I&#039;ll download them and go over the limit this one time. The thing is it doens&#039;t stop there, you&#039;re over your limit for the rest of the month. What are you going to do, unplug all your bandwidth hogging devices from the internet until the month is over? No! HELL NO! Oh and do not even think about a roll over plan to where you don&#039;t use your monthly alloted limit you&#039;re entitled to have it roll over to the next month. Use it or lose it pal but don&#039;t too much or you&#039;ll owe us more. You can see where I&#039;m going with this so I&#039;ll stop. 

From what you have read in other articles and other blogs I hope that if you are a Time Warner customer that you notify them of what you think. Voice your opinion even if you think it won&#039;t matter. A little tenacity goes a long way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say they are trying to punish the 5% but they also found a way to screw the other 95% by implementing a small cap as it is. The majority of households within America have atleast one computer and I would say a majority of those households have a gaming system (PS, XBOX, Wii). With this in mind you have the you have to taken into account what uses bandwith. All of these systems do, and if you have a home network with multiple computers and/or consoles that means you have that many more machines hooked up to the internet. </p>
<p>With this in mind, which of these devices can you use to buy and download video games/movies/music. Answer: All of them. High definition movies on demand tolling up to 9GB, video games upwards to the same extent, on top of that Album downloads, and the list goes on. This of course is not mentioning Netflix&#8217;s latest release of a home appliance that once hooked up to your TV and Netflix account is a few hundred thousand DVDs on-demand. Not to mention the Apples version that was released a bit earlier. You may be saying to yourself &#8220;I just use the internet to check my email and browse the web&#8221;. Guess what, those ads that pop-up all over the place and are part of those webpages aren&#8217;t text. They are graphics that can add up quick and you pay for those too just like you pay for the commericals when you&#8217;re watching TV, but there isn&#8217;t a limit on how much TV you can watch.</p>
<p>I feel Time Warners bandwidth cap &#8220;test market&#8221; is a lead towards monoplizing it&#8217;s grasp on on-demand video market, hindering Net Neutrality, and plain ol&#8217; greedyness(I&#8217;ll lead into why I think this later). I know that I may be jumping ahead of myself but when was the last time any of you saw a commercial for &#8220;Unlimited bandwidth&#8221; internet usage of late? After thinking about it for a while I would have to say I haven&#8217;t seen one in quite a while, but why? That used to be the thing a few years back, terms like &#8220;bandwidth caps&#8221; and &#8220;metered usage&#8221; would get everyone laughing or making fun of you of saying, let alone thinking, of such a thing. If you think about it I just may be right and because of this I bring in the greed factor. The average broadband user pays between 30-50 bucks a month, right? Have you ever wondered where does that money go toward? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been with Time Warner for about 8 years now and I&#8217;ve never had any &#8220;big&#8221; problems but as of lately once Comcast fiasco started I got to thinking, doesn&#8217;t the fee I pay for my monthly internet access go towards not only maintaining the their network but provide funds towards upgrading it? If not, why and where does the money go? Now like I said I&#8217;ve been and loyal customer to Time Warner for eight years and never thought I would consider leaving after Ted told the RIAA and MPAA to F themselves(in so many words) when the issue of Piracy came up. Not that I&#8217;m a pirate but to have someone up high fighting for something that is blatantly right for a change, but I digress. It goes back to mutiple home appliances that can use bandwidth, for legal means, and end up screwing everyone when it comes to this cap, especially being at 40GB. So what does Time Warner say to the cap, well if you go over its $1 per 1GB. Right, so if you have company over or want to be lazy one weekend you sit in your favorite spot in the couch, grab the remote, browse one of several means of selecting on-demand videos/games, download, and let the entertainment beind but wait&#8230; you have to check your current usage, take into account well do I want to watch a couple movies or play a new video game. I don&#8217;t really want to drive to the store with gas prices but I don&#8217;t want to go over my limit. Ah screw it, I&#8217;ll download them and go over the limit this one time. The thing is it doens&#8217;t stop there, you&#8217;re over your limit for the rest of the month. What are you going to do, unplug all your bandwidth hogging devices from the internet until the month is over? No! HELL NO! Oh and do not even think about a roll over plan to where you don&#8217;t use your monthly alloted limit you&#8217;re entitled to have it roll over to the next month. Use it or lose it pal but don&#8217;t too much or you&#8217;ll owe us more. You can see where I&#8217;m going with this so I&#8217;ll stop. </p>
<p>From what you have read in other articles and other blogs I hope that if you are a Time Warner customer that you notify them of what you think. Voice your opinion even if you think it won&#8217;t matter. A little tenacity goes a long way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2347621</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this @$#$ shows up in Austin. I will find another provider. 

I (and my wife) telecommute.  It keeps us off the road, helps our environment (we don&#039;t use much gas this way), BUT I do have to move large files around. Like &#039;um uploading my work to the office - usually done overnight . My wife takes remote control of her office machine and works that way. We both have constant VPN connections to our respective companies networks. What is all this gonna cost in the end? Oh yeah, lets throw VOIP (Vonage) into the picture. All of this is gonna add up, yes? Don&#039;t worry, if it doesn&#039;t TW is gonna change the caps so it does, or make them protocol specific, so they can get their little hands on my little packets (like VOIP or VPN traffic ) and charge me for that also.

I pay a flat rate for my phone (local and long distance (ahh - the wonders of competition) - hence the reason this REALLY seems like a move backwards, a flat rate for my TV (what&#039;s next - they gonna charge me by the show I watch - they will if this model works out), and (since we have wells) a flat rate for our water (well, (no pun intended) until they come out and put a meter on it) which is being discussed. AND, if I have to pay for all this &quot;bandwidth&quot; I am consuming (evidently I am one of the evil 5% that is making this change necessary), why would I NOT go back to dial up, if all I can do with my expensive broadband is check email and read the occasional news story. Once TW starts this nonsense there is no telling where it will end.

I guess I knew this was coming, but it is a bad day for the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this @$#$ shows up in Austin. I will find another provider. </p>
<p>I (and my wife) telecommute.  It keeps us off the road, helps our environment (we don&#8217;t use much gas this way), BUT I do have to move large files around. Like &#8216;um uploading my work to the office &#8211; usually done overnight . My wife takes remote control of her office machine and works that way. We both have constant VPN connections to our respective companies networks. What is all this gonna cost in the end? Oh yeah, lets throw VOIP (Vonage) into the picture. All of this is gonna add up, yes? Don&#8217;t worry, if it doesn&#8217;t TW is gonna change the caps so it does, or make them protocol specific, so they can get their little hands on my little packets (like VOIP or VPN traffic ) and charge me for that also.</p>
<p>I pay a flat rate for my phone (local and long distance (ahh &#8211; the wonders of competition) &#8211; hence the reason this REALLY seems like a move backwards, a flat rate for my TV (what&#8217;s next &#8211; they gonna charge me by the show I watch &#8211; they will if this model works out), and (since we have wells) a flat rate for our water (well, (no pun intended) until they come out and put a meter on it) which is being discussed. AND, if I have to pay for all this &#8220;bandwidth&#8221; I am consuming (evidently I am one of the evil 5% that is making this change necessary), why would I NOT go back to dial up, if all I can do with my expensive broadband is check email and read the occasional news story. Once TW starts this nonsense there is no telling where it will end.</p>
<p>I guess I knew this was coming, but it is a bad day for the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: WinExtra &#187; The real Web 2.0 shows its face</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2347585</link>
		<dc:creator>WinExtra &#187; The real Web 2.0 shows its face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Canadian Mark Evans suggests that none of these moves should come as a surprise and that like Michael Arrington; along with Mike Masnick, believe that this move will do nothing less than kill off any future [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Archive &#187; How quickly will you shoot past Time Warner&#8217;s 40GB bandwidth cap?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2346695</link>
		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Archive &#187; How quickly will you shoot past Time Warner&#8217;s 40GB bandwidth cap?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] probably well aware of Time Warner&#8217;s scheme to charge you by the gigabyte. Arrington wrote a piece yesterday on TechCrunch saying how it would destroy innovation&#8212;how can YouTube et al. make money if no one has the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] probably well aware of Time Warner&#8217;s scheme to charge you by the gigabyte. Arrington wrote a piece yesterday on TechCrunch saying how it would destroy innovation&mdash;how can YouTube et al. make money if no one has the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2346133</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reinkefj  (#57) and hyokon  (#90) are right.  It&#039;s about our level of regulation.  We keep regulating and then we wonder why things don&#039;t work.  So we blame the companies being regulated.

In order to get competition and lower prices, we&#039;ll have to dig and string cable  (#90) and we don&#039;t want that. There are regulations all over the place that make it extremely difficult and expensive.

An example in another industry is rail.  I&#039;m in Chicago and it&#039;s been a huge rail hub for scores of years.  CN wants to buy out a small railroad that has some tracks that ring the metro area to alleviate congestion.  Both Senators (Durbin and Obama) and many politicians are against it.  At some point, the railroads will switch traffic and the many, many jobs that go with it will go away.  At a macro level, it hurts our competitiveness as a country.

It used to be that growth was more important, but that is changing as we regulate more and more things.

I think Tom Friedman had an article a few weeks ago (at least someone sent it to me a few weeks ago) about how it seems that the country is &quot;falling behind.&quot;

What few people will do is make the connection between how we regulate and what the effects are.

We make it hard to look for oil where we think it is, drill for oil where we know it is, and refine what we have (I think we import actual gasoline now) - and then we wonder why the prices are so high!!!

That polar bear act that came out a few weeks ago is a recipe for disaster as it adds a very powerful layer of regulation over large parts of the economy.

Who is to blame? Modern Liberals who don&#039;t like capitalism and who want everything to be equal - equal misery.

(Talking about oil prices, Durbin and other Democrats are fighting BP&#039;s expansion of the Whiting refinery outside Chicago.  Chicago has the highest gas prices and the local media is incapable of making a connection between the ignorant Durbin&#039;s and the other Democrat&#039;s actions and even higher prices.  So all they do is blame the oil comapnies.  Arg!!!)

Anyways, our level of regulation is really hurting us.  Btw, Net Neutrality will just make it worse - much worse.  And most people won&#039;t even know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reinkefj  (#57) and hyokon  (#90) are right.  It&#8217;s about our level of regulation.  We keep regulating and then we wonder why things don&#8217;t work.  So we blame the companies being regulated.</p>
<p>In order to get competition and lower prices, we&#8217;ll have to dig and string cable  (#90) and we don&#8217;t want that. There are regulations all over the place that make it extremely difficult and expensive.</p>
<p>An example in another industry is rail.  I&#8217;m in Chicago and it&#8217;s been a huge rail hub for scores of years.  CN wants to buy out a small railroad that has some tracks that ring the metro area to alleviate congestion.  Both Senators (Durbin and Obama) and many politicians are against it.  At some point, the railroads will switch traffic and the many, many jobs that go with it will go away.  At a macro level, it hurts our competitiveness as a country.</p>
<p>It used to be that growth was more important, but that is changing as we regulate more and more things.</p>
<p>I think Tom Friedman had an article a few weeks ago (at least someone sent it to me a few weeks ago) about how it seems that the country is &#8220;falling behind.&#8221;</p>
<p>What few people will do is make the connection between how we regulate and what the effects are.</p>
<p>We make it hard to look for oil where we think it is, drill for oil where we know it is, and refine what we have (I think we import actual gasoline now) &#8211; and then we wonder why the prices are so high!!!</p>
<p>That polar bear act that came out a few weeks ago is a recipe for disaster as it adds a very powerful layer of regulation over large parts of the economy.</p>
<p>Who is to blame? Modern Liberals who don&#8217;t like capitalism and who want everything to be equal &#8211; equal misery.</p>
<p>(Talking about oil prices, Durbin and other Democrats are fighting BP&#8217;s expansion of the Whiting refinery outside Chicago.  Chicago has the highest gas prices and the local media is incapable of making a connection between the ignorant Durbin&#8217;s and the other Democrat&#8217;s actions and even higher prices.  So all they do is blame the oil comapnies.  Arg!!!)</p>
<p>Anyways, our level of regulation is really hurting us.  Btw, Net Neutrality will just make it worse &#8211; much worse.  And most people won&#8217;t even know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I envy the US just getting metered - I live in the UK and we&#039;ve had metered only internet access on virtually every package available - anything not metered is on &quot;Fair Usage&quot; which is essentially a metered package but they don&#039;t tell you the limit.

To get 8Mega Bit Per Second (spelt out so there&#039;s no confusion) on even a cheap ISP with over 200Giga Bytes per month &quot;usage&quot; you have to pay £80 - that&#039;s about $150! It&#039;s crazy expensive. All the UK&#039;s big ISPs charging £15/£20 ($30/$40) give meters around 10/20Giga Bytes.  Check http://www.aolbroadband.co.uk/pages/productPages/acquisition/compareProductsAOL.jsp?urlseq=9 for AOL&#039;s package - $60 for 10GigaBytes a month!! 

Couple that with our crippling low connections speeds (countrywide average is 4.3MegaBit - I achieve 2.1MegaBit in the second largest town in England) and you should be pleased to have what you&#039;ve got!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I envy the US just getting metered &#8211; I live in the UK and we&#8217;ve had metered only internet access on virtually every package available &#8211; anything not metered is on &#8220;Fair Usage&#8221; which is essentially a metered package but they don&#8217;t tell you the limit.</p>
<p>To get 8Mega Bit Per Second (spelt out so there&#8217;s no confusion) on even a cheap ISP with over 200Giga Bytes per month &#8220;usage&#8221; you have to pay £80 &#8211; that&#8217;s about $150! It&#8217;s crazy expensive. All the UK&#8217;s big ISPs charging £15/£20 ($30/$40) give meters around 10/20Giga Bytes.  Check <a href="http://www.aolbroadband.co.uk/pages/productPages/acquisition/compareProductsAOL.jsp?urlseq=9" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.aolbroadband.co.uk/pages/productPages/acquisition/compareProductsAOL.jsp?urlseq=9'>http://www.aolb...OL.jsp?urlseq=9</a> for AOL&#8217;s package &#8211; $60 for 10GigaBytes a month!! </p>
<p>Couple that with our crippling low connections speeds (countrywide average is 4.3MegaBit &#8211; I achieve 2.1MegaBit in the second largest town in England) and you should be pleased to have what you&#8217;ve got!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Jomphe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-3/#comment-2346064</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Jomphe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Canada,

for ~38$ USD, I get a download speed of 800 kbits/s and a combined up+dw cap of 2 GBs.

High speed goes for 55$, and is about 10-15 Mbits/s, with a limited dw bandwidth of 20 GBs.

Over either limits, I pay 9$ / GB, with a maximum overpay of something like 40$.

There&#039;s an unlimited bandwidth plan, if I remember well, that goes for about 80-90$.

All these numbers are approximate, I didn&#039;t want to remind myself in detail how crappy canadian companies are on their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Canada,</p>
<p>for ~38$ USD, I get a download speed of 800 kbits/s and a combined up+dw cap of 2 GBs.</p>
<p>High speed goes for 55$, and is about 10-15 Mbits/s, with a limited dw bandwidth of 20 GBs.</p>
<p>Over either limits, I pay 9$ / GB, with a maximum overpay of something like 40$.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an unlimited bandwidth plan, if I remember well, that goes for about 80-90$.</p>
<p>All these numbers are approximate, I didn&#8217;t want to remind myself in detail how crappy canadian companies are on their customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I send unrequested packets to Beaumont Texas, the customer has to pay for it right? (Think UDP.) Otherwise, how can the cable company tell what&#039;s unrequested and what&#039;s not. 

Therefore, you can now run up someones bill whenever you choose, and the cable company won&#039;t be inclined to help or even believe the customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I send unrequested packets to Beaumont Texas, the customer has to pay for it right? (Think UDP.) Otherwise, how can the cable company tell what&#8217;s unrequested and what&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>Therefore, you can now run up someones bill whenever you choose, and the cable company won&#8217;t be inclined to help or even believe the customer.</p>
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		<title>By: memyself</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-2/#comment-2345978</link>
		<dc:creator>memyself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capped plans = less online piracy to these big companys, so its a win for the RIAA and MPAA. Get used to it america every ISP will do this soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capped plans = less online piracy to these big companys, so its a win for the RIAA and MPAA. Get used to it america every ISP will do this soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/02/going-medieval-time-warner-begins-metered-bandwidth-testing/comment-page-2/#comment-2345858</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the term &quot;medieval&quot; is in the title because we all know how in the 12th century cable companies used their monopolistic status to restrict Internet access for everyone who wasn&#039;t a king, squire, earl or duke. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the term &#8220;medieval&#8221; is in the title because we all know how in the 12th century cable companies used their monopolistic status to restrict Internet access for everyone who wasn&#8217;t a king, squire, earl or duke. Right?</p>
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