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	<title>Comments on: Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Takes On Travel Guide Industry</title>
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		<title>By: TechWag &#187; No it is not an ego clash of the tech bloggers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2534850</link>
		<dc:creator>TechWag &#187; No it is not an ego clash of the tech bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Takes On Travel Guide Industry [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Officially Launches OffBeatGuides.com: DIY Guidebooks On the Go : VCsAndAngels - Venture Capital / VCs, Angel Investors, Startup News, Etc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2531363</link>
		<dc:creator>Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Officially Launches OffBeatGuides.com: DIY Guidebooks On the Go : VCsAndAngels - Venture Capital / VCs, Angel Investors, Startup News, Etc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taked about the site in June but it launched today at SIME 2008 in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Launches OffBeatGuides.com: DIY Guidebooks On the Go</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2531333</link>
		<dc:creator>Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Launches OffBeatGuides.com: DIY Guidebooks On the Go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taked about the site in June but it launched today at SIME 2008 in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TC50: GoPlanit Generates Your Travel Itinerary With One Click &#124; Zensible</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2527765</link>
		<dc:creator>TC50: GoPlanit Generates Your Travel Itinerary With One Click &#124; Zensible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] travel space that offer some similar functionality include Dave Sifry&#8217;s OffBeat Guides, which generates travel guides on the fly, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Offbeat,Tu guia de viajes personalizada &#124; Elportal.info - Negocios, Tecnologia y seguridad informatica</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2521193</link>
		<dc:creator>Offbeat,Tu guia de viajes personalizada &#124; Elportal.info - Negocios, Tecnologia y seguridad informatica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] idea, que puedes ver contada por el propio Dave en este vídeo de TechCrunch, consiste en elaborar guías de viaje completamente personalizadas y actualizadas: entras en el [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mina botares</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2512185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mina botares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can book tours online with my website and don't pay advance.
this site provide private tour guide in Egypt with low cost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can book tours online with my website and don&#8217;t pay advance.<br />
this site provide private tour guide in Egypt with low cost</p>
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		<title>By: Travel Trends - Panoramio, Priceline.com, Offbeat Guides, Tripology, Google TV Ads &#171; Travel 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2490902</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel Trends - Panoramio, Priceline.com, Offbeat Guides, Tripology, Google TV Ads &#171; Travel 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am sure if valid in Arizona! http://www.priceline.com/  Offbeat Guides Launches - TechCrunch has a great review of the newly launched beta of offbeatguides.com. Started by Technorati founder Dave [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am sure if valid in Arizona! <a href="http://www.priceline.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.priceline.com/</a>  Offbeat Guides Launches - TechCrunch has a great review of the newly launched beta of offbeatguides.com. Started by Technorati founder Dave [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sklepy internetowe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2485713</link>
		<dc:creator>sklepy internetowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting article, I think it was helped so many users, thx for helpful informations thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting article, I think it was helped so many users, thx for helpful informations thx</p>
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		<title>By: TC50: GoPlanit Generates Your Travel Itinerary With One Click &#187; The Scripts Zone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2465571</link>
		<dc:creator>TC50: GoPlanit Generates Your Travel Itinerary With One Click &#187; The Scripts Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] travel space that offer some similar functionality include Dave Sifry&#8217;s OffBeat Guides, which generates travel guides on the fly, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TC50: GoPlanit Generates Your Travel Itinerary With One Click</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2465120</link>
		<dc:creator>TC50: GoPlanit Generates Your Travel Itinerary With One Click</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] travel space that offer some similar functionality include Dave Sifry&#8217;s OffBeat Guides, which generates travel guides on the fly, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Happy Hotelier &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dunglish and Offbeat Guides</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2450440</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Hotelier &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dunglish and Offbeat Guides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interesting thing is it has been set up by a technorati founder who left technorati. Read more at Tech Crunch and at Joe Buhler&#8217;s Site and here is Sifry&#8217;s own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] interesting thing is it has been set up by a technorati founder who left technorati. Read more at Tech Crunch and at Joe Buhler&#8217;s Site and here is Sifry&#8217;s own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Link Building</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2399981</link>
		<dc:creator>Link Building</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great product, though I cant see why would anyone wanna get it since AIm offers free incoming calls  on their local numbers and offers $14.95 for unlimited calling in the US and Canada ( yes they still offer it to a few selected ) They are heavily promoting their call out feature.

If the price here was a little lower it would be a great sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great product, though I cant see why would anyone wanna get it since AIm offers free incoming calls  on their local numbers and offers $14.95 for unlimited calling in the US and Canada ( yes they still offer it to a few selected ) They are heavily promoting their call out feature.</p>
<p>If the price here was a little lower it would be a great sell.</p>
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		<title>By: kral oyunları</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2370074</link>
		<dc:creator>kral oyunları</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds good, good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds good, good luck</p>
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		<title>By: The Flip v. My Cheap Canon Camera: Flip Loses Across The Board</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2351875</link>
		<dc:creator>The Flip v. My Cheap Canon Camera: Flip Loses Across The Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now happily use my Canon SD750 for basic video footage (example is here). Not only does it take great pictures, it matches or beats the Flip Mino in every category. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now happily use my Canon SD750 for basic video footage (example is here). Not only does it take great pictures, it matches or beats the Flip Mino in every category. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ICT magazine &#187; Internet &#187; SearchCap: The Day In Search, June 2, 2008 &#183; Information &#38; Communications Technology magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2350398</link>
		<dc:creator>ICT magazine &#187; Internet &#187; SearchCap: The Day In Search, June 2, 2008 &#183; Information &#38; Communications Technology magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Technorati Founder Dave Sifry Takes On Travel Guide Industry, TechCrunch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wal Mart Super Center Proactive Acne Skin Care Product</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2346977</link>
		<dc:creator>Wal Mart Super Center Proactive Acne Skin Care Product</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: khalil</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2346057</link>
		<dc:creator>khalil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From travel price search to travel info search.

I don't see travel metasearch big success. the same will happen to info search.

if you really want offbeaten info, you will enjoy surfing the web as part of your travel. If you don't have time than you need aquick list of good places you will ask your friends and concierge.

If I had the money of these (or  at least a small part, and we talk about it ..) I would focus on the process of finding good recommendation not the content. And make the process enjoyable.

For people who have money for a service like this I would arrange a truely personalized guide with live agent sessions for getting the full requirements and would build the guide IN COLLABORATION with the client. Like a review process.

I would hire local guide who would sell this small effort as a amarketing tool for further touring sale.

In short I would try to understand the whole process of searching information and the trust issue which different than collecting content and packginfg it.

I wish I had a small part of that  money to proove it.

bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From travel price search to travel info search.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see travel metasearch big success. the same will happen to info search.</p>
<p>if you really want offbeaten info, you will enjoy surfing the web as part of your travel. If you don&#8217;t have time than you need aquick list of good places you will ask your friends and concierge.</p>
<p>If I had the money of these (or  at least a small part, and we talk about it ..) I would focus on the process of finding good recommendation not the content. And make the process enjoyable.</p>
<p>For people who have money for a service like this I would arrange a truely personalized guide with live agent sessions for getting the full requirements and would build the guide IN COLLABORATION with the client. Like a review process.</p>
<p>I would hire local guide who would sell this small effort as a amarketing tool for further touring sale.</p>
<p>In short I would try to understand the whole process of searching information and the trust issue which different than collecting content and packginfg it.</p>
<p>I wish I had a small part of that  money to proove it.</p>
<p>bye</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew J Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2344226</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew J Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its a fantastic product, but I must confess my first thought was copyright. Can I print off wikipedia, bind it, and sell it for $100's ? (lets ignore the fact about who would but it ... or hang on, actually ...?)

Presumably David is paying a license atleast for the maps? As they are definitely covered by a different license than for re-use online via an API - in the same way that Google nor MS can allow maps use on mobile as their licenses do not cover allowing users to access the API and use their map tiles (with their knowledge) on mobile...?

Surprised TC didn't clarify this. Be great if you could...

@Michael - Rummble can provide you personalised content for your trip on your mobile. We don't provide all the ancillary info, but partnering with others, that wouldnt be hard - we could just partner with OffBeat :-)   We'll be getting our core offering polished right first, but meanwhile I'll be making some calls...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a fantastic product, but I must confess my first thought was copyright. Can I print off wikipedia, bind it, and sell it for $100&#8217;s ? (lets ignore the fact about who would but it &#8230; or hang on, actually &#8230;?)</p>
<p>Presumably David is paying a license atleast for the maps? As they are definitely covered by a different license than for re-use online via an API - in the same way that Google nor MS can allow maps use on mobile as their licenses do not cover allowing users to access the API and use their map tiles (with their knowledge) on mobile&#8230;?</p>
<p>Surprised TC didn&#8217;t clarify this. Be great if you could&#8230;</p>
<p>@Michael - Rummble can provide you personalised content for your trip on your mobile. We don&#8217;t provide all the ancillary info, but partnering with others, that wouldnt be hard - we could just partner with OffBeat <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   We&#8217;ll be getting our core offering polished right first, but meanwhile I&#8217;ll be making some calls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2343818</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sifry is actually second to the personalized travel guide game. ProfessionalTravelGuide.com recently launched its PocketGuide book, powered by SharedBook.  

Now users can print travel guides that contain information from ProfessionalTravelGuide’s database – the same professional database that all offline and online travel agents use – 300 fields of info on more than 159,000 hotels, 7,000 destinations guides, 10,000 hotel reviews, thousands of restaurant reviews, maps, etc.. and the prices start at $18.95.  

One can also printout and/or download an eGuidebook from the site for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sifry is actually second to the personalized travel guide game. ProfessionalTravelGuide.com recently launched its PocketGuide book, powered by SharedBook.  </p>
<p>Now users can print travel guides that contain information from ProfessionalTravelGuide’s database – the same professional database that all offline and online travel agents use – 300 fields of info on more than 159,000 hotels, 7,000 destinations guides, 10,000 hotel reviews, thousands of restaurant reviews, maps, etc.. and the prices start at $18.95.  </p>
<p>One can also printout and/or download an eGuidebook from the site for free.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2343761</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about copyright issue?

Since they use wikitravel etc which uses Creative Commons license. The resulting materials must also be in the same CC license. That implies their docs can be distributed and remixed freely. Isnt that a problem for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about copyright issue?</p>
<p>Since they use wikitravel etc which uses Creative Commons license. The resulting materials must also be in the same CC license. That implies their docs can be distributed and remixed freely. Isnt that a problem for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Head</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/01/technorati-founder-dave-sifry-takes-on-travel-guide-industry/#comment-2342823</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone else already pointed out Lonely Planet already do this and it's cheap... (See: &lt;a href="http://www.travelblather.com/2008/03/the-future-for.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.travelblather.com/2008/03/the-future-for.html&lt;/a&gt;)  And despite &lt;a href="http://www.travelblather.com/2008/04/making-travel-g.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;recent hoo haa&lt;/a&gt;)  about one writer who says he didn't visit lots of places he wrote about for them, their info is going to be a lot more dependable than stuff dragged off the net....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone else already pointed out Lonely Planet already do this and it&#8217;s cheap&#8230; (See: <a href="http://www.travelblather.com/2008/03/the-future-for.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.travelblather.com');">http://www.travelblather.com/2.....e-for.html</a>)  And despite <a href="http://www.travelblather.com/2008/04/making-travel-g.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.travelblather.com');">recent hoo haa</a>)  about one writer who says he didn&#8217;t visit lots of places he wrote about for them, their info is going to be a lot more dependable than stuff dragged off the net&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might know wikitravelpress.com who reprint wiktravel content with additional editorial content. So less sources, but at an editor. And available on Lulu print on demand.

And again I wonder how this fits with the Creative Commons (CC) licence. I understand that if you use content, the result has to apply the same licence. So how can you sell it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might know wikitravelpress.com who reprint wiktravel content with additional editorial content. So less sources, but at an editor. And available on Lulu print on demand.</p>
<p>And again I wonder how this fits with the Creative Commons (CC) licence. I understand that if you use content, the result has to apply the same licence. So how can you sell it?</p>
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		<title>By: alan p</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@48 he has definitely violated any Creative Commons licence that only allows copying for a not for profit purpose, it is irrelevant whether the purpose is useful to others or not. I suspect, as No 37 does, that he will also take a hit from the sensibilities of the original open source community.

The bigger issue is this - if sucking data off other sites for resale is accepted as a general practice, we are going to see a fairly major restructuring of the web publishing game.

There is no practical difference between this and me sucking data off TechCrunch et al to resell as pdf books about technology companies - After all, we are one big naked conversation, right ;-).

(Actually, I note TC uses full copyright - thats one rapid change I expect to see on blogs and public wikis)

This is a classic scrape of the commons gig...... I can now safely predict the rush of a thousand scraper-publishers, the defensive acts by several thousand websites.

Mo' thoughts here:

http://broadstuff.com/archives/995-The-Scrape-of-the-Commons.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@48 he has definitely violated any Creative Commons licence that only allows copying for a not for profit purpose, it is irrelevant whether the purpose is useful to others or not. I suspect, as No 37 does, that he will also take a hit from the sensibilities of the original open source community.</p>
<p>The bigger issue is this - if sucking data off other sites for resale is accepted as a general practice, we are going to see a fairly major restructuring of the web publishing game.</p>
<p>There is no practical difference between this and me sucking data off TechCrunch et al to resell as pdf books about technology companies - After all, we are one big naked conversation, right ;-).</p>
<p>(Actually, I note TC uses full copyright - thats one rapid change I expect to see on blogs and public wikis)</p>
<p>This is a classic scrape of the commons gig&#8230;&#8230; I can now safely predict the rush of a thousand scraper-publishers, the defensive acts by several thousand websites.</p>
<p>Mo&#8217; thoughts here:</p>
<p><a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/995-The-Scrape-of-the-Commons.html" rel="nofollow">http://broadstuff.com/archives.....mmons.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perish the thought a travel start-up actually considers visiting the places they cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perish the thought a travel start-up actually considers visiting the places they cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair play to this guy for his cheek. Selling outdated content - written by amateurs and almost certainly unverified by a fact checker - at stupid prices. Wonderful. 

Has anyone actually been through the Paris guide? It is useless. Nothing is plotted on the maps, there are no map references for any sights, no street index... It is one great big exercise in copy/paste.

I also wonder what a guide for less well wiki-ed places would like like? What would an offbeat guide to Albania contain?

Anyone who is idiot enough to order one of these should send me $10 too for pointing out their folly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair play to this guy for his cheek. Selling outdated content - written by amateurs and almost certainly unverified by a fact checker - at stupid prices. Wonderful. </p>
<p>Has anyone actually been through the Paris guide? It is useless. Nothing is plotted on the maps, there are no map references for any sights, no street index&#8230; It is one great big exercise in copy/paste.</p>
<p>I also wonder what a guide for less well wiki-ed places would like like? What would an offbeat guide to Albania contain?</p>
<p>Anyone who is idiot enough to order one of these should send me $10 too for pointing out their folly.</p>
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