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	<title>Comments on: Is YouTube Building Market Dominance At The Expense of Building A Business?</title>
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		<title>By: Twowan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2526533</link>
		<dc:creator>Twowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make money with YouTube, this is what Google has to do... 

On the most viewed clips (clips with, let say, already 1000 views) (doesn't matter who posted them) YouTube automatically implements a 5 seconds overlay ad that appears over the player and blocks out (darkens) everything else. (It gives a bit of time for the clip to load in the background as well). 

This overlay is a 5 seconds spot (can't be longer than that and it doesn't link to a company website if you click on it. It's like a really, really short TV spot. It can be a still picture for outfits with very little budgets...)

Now, people don't like ads... but they like GAMES and they like to COLLECT stuff. 

Each overlay ad is a mini 5 seconds GAME. You have three colored dots on the overlay. The viewer clicks on ONE of them. One is a winner, two are duds. If you're lucky to pick the winner (you only have one chance) during the 5 secs, you receive a TOKEN that is automatically added to your YouTube account. (It encourages you to stay registered...)

Now, you COLLECT these tokens. If you win a certain number of similar tokens, you can EXCHANGE them against full-length HD Hollywood Films or TV shows on YouTube. The fun part could be that you have different categorires of tokens. (Some would be for specific film genres or just for one TV show and some could be really hard to find, worth maybe ten tokens, etc.) (Tokens are generated randomly by the system.)

Now, you have the problem of guys posting shows and seeing Google make money off their film. Well, they need to be rewarded too. For a succesful posting (ie lots of viewers) they also receive TOKENS... to be exchanged to watch high-quality HD movies or TV shows.

Now, these HD movies or TV shows in the "HD Theatre section of YouTube" can also be sponsored with a longer lead-in spot... That's even more money for Google.

Now, we have the problem of big brand names not wanting to have their spots stuck on "Jimmy and his weird cat"... Well, they could "control" where their 5 Secs. spots go by teaming with content suppliers through YouTube. Example, a Coca-Cola campaign with Viacom clips... Viacom takes all the succesful shows they own like, for example, "Spongebob". They cut out little "gems" (two to three minute clips) and they post them on YouTube to watch for free... Viacom via Google sell their 5 second spots to Coca-cola. Everybody is happy. The viewer, who enjoys these mini-clips, can even link to the full episode of Spongebob on YouTube. He can pay by redeeming TOKENS or he can pay with real money for the full episode or combine both. (It's all streaming anyway! It's like TV a la carte.)

Now, what about the "Jim and his weird cat" clips. Who pays for these 5 secs ads? Well, it's like Google's Adsense, it's small outfits who purchase so many spots. You can buy a thousand spots or ten thousand spots to be randomly placed on clips or based on the clip's TAGS and on the clip's level of viewership. The outfit supplies the spot or the still and pays Google directly up front.

A system like this is not that difficult to implement. (If they're real smart, they can have it work just the same on imbedded videos on other sites) Anyway, it's fun for all involved and all get something out of it. Everybody is a winner especially Google who makes tons of money from the big guys but also... most importantly...from the long, long tail of all the little guys. Viewers are hooked to YouTube forever! Even if they're just there to click on ads and forget about the clips... the most important is done. Money!

Here, you have it.

Twowan,

(If Google wants more ideas like this one, they can contact me. I'm the guy behind laboratoryfilms.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make money with YouTube, this is what Google has to do&#8230; </p>
<p>On the most viewed clips (clips with, let say, already 1000 views) (doesn&#8217;t matter who posted them) YouTube automatically implements a 5 seconds overlay ad that appears over the player and blocks out (darkens) everything else. (It gives a bit of time for the clip to load in the background as well). </p>
<p>This overlay is a 5 seconds spot (can&#8217;t be longer than that and it doesn&#8217;t link to a company website if you click on it. It&#8217;s like a really, really short TV spot. It can be a still picture for outfits with very little budgets&#8230;)</p>
<p>Now, people don&#8217;t like ads&#8230; but they like GAMES and they like to COLLECT stuff. </p>
<p>Each overlay ad is a mini 5 seconds GAME. You have three colored dots on the overlay. The viewer clicks on ONE of them. One is a winner, two are duds. If you&#8217;re lucky to pick the winner (you only have one chance) during the 5 secs, you receive a TOKEN that is automatically added to your YouTube account. (It encourages you to stay registered&#8230;)</p>
<p>Now, you COLLECT these tokens. If you win a certain number of similar tokens, you can EXCHANGE them against full-length HD Hollywood Films or TV shows on YouTube. The fun part could be that you have different categorires of tokens. (Some would be for specific film genres or just for one TV show and some could be really hard to find, worth maybe ten tokens, etc.) (Tokens are generated randomly by the system.)</p>
<p>Now, you have the problem of guys posting shows and seeing Google make money off their film. Well, they need to be rewarded too. For a succesful posting (ie lots of viewers) they also receive TOKENS&#8230; to be exchanged to watch high-quality HD movies or TV shows.</p>
<p>Now, these HD movies or TV shows in the &#8220;HD Theatre section of YouTube&#8221; can also be sponsored with a longer lead-in spot&#8230; That&#8217;s even more money for Google.</p>
<p>Now, we have the problem of big brand names not wanting to have their spots stuck on &#8220;Jimmy and his weird cat&#8221;&#8230; Well, they could &#8220;control&#8221; where their 5 Secs. spots go by teaming with content suppliers through YouTube. Example, a Coca-Cola campaign with Viacom clips&#8230; Viacom takes all the succesful shows they own like, for example, &#8220;Spongebob&#8221;. They cut out little &#8220;gems&#8221; (two to three minute clips) and they post them on YouTube to watch for free&#8230; Viacom via Google sell their 5 second spots to Coca-cola. Everybody is happy. The viewer, who enjoys these mini-clips, can even link to the full episode of Spongebob on YouTube. He can pay by redeeming TOKENS or he can pay with real money for the full episode or combine both. (It&#8217;s all streaming anyway! It&#8217;s like TV a la carte.)</p>
<p>Now, what about the &#8220;Jim and his weird cat&#8221; clips. Who pays for these 5 secs ads? Well, it&#8217;s like Google&#8217;s Adsense, it&#8217;s small outfits who purchase so many spots. You can buy a thousand spots or ten thousand spots to be randomly placed on clips or based on the clip&#8217;s TAGS and on the clip&#8217;s level of viewership. The outfit supplies the spot or the still and pays Google directly up front.</p>
<p>A system like this is not that difficult to implement. (If they&#8217;re real smart, they can have it work just the same on imbedded videos on other sites) Anyway, it&#8217;s fun for all involved and all get something out of it. Everybody is a winner especially Google who makes tons of money from the big guys but also&#8230; most importantly&#8230;from the long, long tail of all the little guys. Viewers are hooked to YouTube forever! Even if they&#8217;re just there to click on ads and forget about the clips&#8230; the most important is done. Money!</p>
<p>Here, you have it.</p>
<p>Twowan,</p>
<p>(If Google wants more ideas like this one, they can contact me. I&#8217;m the guy behind laboratoryfilms.com)</p>
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		<title>By: EveryZing, Inc – Video SEO and Multimedia Search Solutions - Can YouTube Turn Market Dominance into a Killer Business Model?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2509848</link>
		<dc:creator>EveryZing, Inc – Video SEO and Multimedia Search Solutions - Can YouTube Turn Market Dominance into a Killer Business Model?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent TechCrunch post Eric Shonfeld raises questions about how exactly YouTube’s market dominance will or will not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dRaddissoclab</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2508908</link>
		<dc:creator>dRaddissoclab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Mullings</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2496293</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mullings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting analysis.

YouTube is just like Google - take time to build market share, then figure out monetization and go to town.

Google never started gushing money until years later when they perfected PPC that Overture had invented.

Google issued a statement in a 1998 paper they published about Google technology saying that ad-funded search engines are "inherently biased to the advertisers...the better the search engine is, the fewer advertisements will be needed for the consumer to find what they want.

Read my analysis at http://mullingsbrothers.blogspot.com/2008/07/professional-online-video-vs-user.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting analysis.</p>
<p>YouTube is just like Google - take time to build market share, then figure out monetization and go to town.</p>
<p>Google never started gushing money until years later when they perfected PPC that Overture had invented.</p>
<p>Google issued a statement in a 1998 paper they published about Google technology saying that ad-funded search engines are &#8220;inherently biased to the advertisers&#8230;the better the search engine is, the fewer advertisements will be needed for the consumer to find what they want.</p>
<p>Read my analysis at <a href="http://mullingsbrothers.blogspot.com/2008/07/professional-online-video-vs-user.html" rel="nofollow">http://mullingsbrothers.blogsp.....-user.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2494463</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone will make a lot of money in this space and if I had to bet on a company, I'd bet on Youtube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone will make a lot of money in this space and if I had to bet on a company, I&#8217;d bet on Youtube.</p>
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		<title>By: Still Searching For A Video Business Model, Google Introduces The YouTubevertorial : VCsAndAngels - Venture Capital / VCs, Angel Investors, Startup News, Etc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2494356</link>
		<dc:creator>Still Searching For A Video Business Model, Google Introduces The YouTubevertorial : VCsAndAngels - Venture Capital / VCs, Angel Investors, Startup News, Etc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wasn&#8217;t so long ago that we wondered if YouTube would ever start to flex its marketing muscles. Now it is trying to squeeze more money out of the ads on its [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Still Searching For A Video Business Model, Google Introduces The YouTubevertorial</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2494327</link>
		<dc:creator>Still Searching For A Video Business Model, Google Introduces The YouTubevertorial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wasn&#8217;t so long ago that we wondered if YouTube would ever start to flex its marketing muscles. Now it is trying to squeeze more money out of the ads on its [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Can the joy of text satisfy the brand builders? (And other trends) &#8212; ZuluZulu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2460653</link>
		<dc:creator>Can the joy of text satisfy the brand builders? (And other trends) &#8212; ZuluZulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] failure of online display ad revenue is the news of the failure of online video ad revenue. Even Google is not making much money from YouTube [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Can Hulu Be A Bigger Business Than YouTube?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2452322</link>
		<dc:creator>Can Hulu Be A Bigger Business Than YouTube?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may be wildly popular, but Google’s ability to realize a profit has been difficult, at best. The company spent $1.65 billion for YouTube and so far, it has yet to find a way to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BlogZinger &#187; Can YouTube Turn Market Dominance into a Killer Business Model?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2441305</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogZinger &#187; Can YouTube Turn Market Dominance into a Killer Business Model?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent TechCrunch post Eric Shonfeld raises questions about how exactly YouTube’s market dominance will or will not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VideoEgg Launches New Video Ad Units. Maybe YouTube Should Pay Attention</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2402946</link>
		<dc:creator>VideoEgg Launches New Video Ad Units. Maybe YouTube Should Pay Attention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] short, for YouTube, means revenues of about $200 million this year. The days of building market dominance at the expense of revenues appears to be over, with Google sales chief Tim Armstrong spearheading an effort dubbed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Youtube en Mexico</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2394189</link>
		<dc:creator>Youtube en Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>37% of the videos watched. Amazing Numbers!
But the YouTube phenomenon will grow faster this year.</description>
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But the YouTube phenomenon will grow faster this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2382259</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youtube should display ads before the start of every video. Then the revenues will BOOST like anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youtube should display ads before the start of every video. Then the revenues will BOOST like anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Citi&#8217;s Mahaney: If Google Wants To Stay On Top, It Needs To Ramp Up Its Display Ad Revenues</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2382213</link>
		<dc:creator>Citi&#8217;s Mahaney: If Google Wants To Stay On Top, It Needs To Ramp Up Its Display Ad Revenues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] million in display-ad revenues. These numbers maybe aggressive, though, because so far Google has sacrificed ramping up revenues on YouTube for market share gains. In fact, Mahaney&#8217;s analysis of the top 100 videos on YouTube right [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] million in display-ad revenues. These numbers maybe aggressive, though, because so far Google has sacrificed ramping up revenues on YouTube for market share gains. In fact, Mahaney&#8217;s analysis of the top 100 videos on YouTube right [...]</p>
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		<title>By: [fr] L’homme de la situation</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2363343</link>
		<dc:creator>[fr] L’homme de la situation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plus tard pour toutes ces sociétés (au fait pour ceux qui ne le savait pas YouTube va générer près de 200 millions de dollars en revenus cette [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch en français &#187; [fr] L&#8217;homme de la situation</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2348804</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch en français &#187; [fr] L&#8217;homme de la situation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plus tard pour toutes ces sociétés (au fait pour ceux qui ne le savait pas YouTube va générer près de 200 millions de dollars en revenus cette [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lost Remote &#187; YouTube&#8217;s head of revenue leaves for startup</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2347154</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost Remote &#187; YouTube&#8217;s head of revenue leaves for startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cooliris, not Facebook, where several Google execs have landed recently. YouTube revenues have been in the spotlight lately because of remarks by Google CEO Eric [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roundup: YouTube making money now? Managers leaving Bebo, and more &#187; VentureBeat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2342246</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundup: YouTube making money now? Managers leaving Bebo, and more &#187; VentureBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] maybe its making up to $200 million this year? &#8212; This is according to a couple estimates reviewed by Erick Schonfeld at Techcrunch. Schonfeld calculates that YouTube is making at least $80 million revenue (not profit) based on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] maybe its making up to $200 million this year? &#8212; This is according to a couple estimates reviewed by Erick Schonfeld at Techcrunch. Schonfeld calculates that YouTube is making at least $80 million revenue (not profit) based on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2341974</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple's iTune sells music and video. So, Google's YouTube, with so many visitors, make it become a real market site of selling Video contents and subscriptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s iTune sells music and video. So, Google&#8217;s YouTube, with so many visitors, make it become a real market site of selling Video contents and subscriptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Shakir Razak</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2340480</link>
		<dc:creator>Shakir Razak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I think Tech./Crunch people have a short memory.


As @31 was mentioning, if google come up with a workable ad-product....  the only problem is that as an enterprise google would still be a middle-ranking search site at best, probably taken over by the other top-3 if it hadn't stolen the idea from Bill Gross of PPC advertising, and then buying Applied Semantics.

Yahoo and Aol simply have more breadth and depth of content.

To date they have not yet demonstrated any actual product, on the other they did blimming well buy Neven Vision (which was on my fantasy M &#38; A list for years) and together with other technology they probably already have the ideas if not tech. in place to eventually execute.

As a final note, people make this point about inappropriate content next to quality adverts, but that forgets 2 other things: no one seems to give a damn when the same happens with good adverts around crap network programming, and two, the whole point of the internet is accessibility of all to all by all  -combine that with something like Co.'s XXXXXXXXXX and TXXXXXXX and you have a ready made solution!!!




Yours kindly,


Shakir Razak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I think Tech./Crunch people have a short memory.</p>
<p>As @31 was mentioning, if google come up with a workable ad-product&#8230;.  the only problem is that as an enterprise google would still be a middle-ranking search site at best, probably taken over by the other top-3 if it hadn&#8217;t stolen the idea from Bill Gross of PPC advertising, and then buying Applied Semantics.</p>
<p>Yahoo and Aol simply have more breadth and depth of content.</p>
<p>To date they have not yet demonstrated any actual product, on the other they did blimming well buy Neven Vision (which was on my fantasy M &amp; A list for years) and together with other technology they probably already have the ideas if not tech. in place to eventually execute.</p>
<p>As a final note, people make this point about inappropriate content next to quality adverts, but that forgets 2 other things: no one seems to give a damn when the same happens with good adverts around crap network programming, and two, the whole point of the internet is accessibility of all to all by all  -combine that with something like Co.&#8217;s XXXXXXXXXX and TXXXXXXX and you have a ready made solution!!!</p>
<p>Yours kindly,</p>
<p>Shakir Razak</p>
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		<title>By: Jp</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2340252</link>
		<dc:creator>Jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 23:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they are creating market dominance. The results are uneven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they are creating market dominance. The results are uneven.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-05-31 &#171; 個人的な雑記</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2340200</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-05-31 &#171; 個人的な雑記</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is YouTube Building Market Dominance At The Expense of Building A Business? (tags: google Marketing video) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is YouTube Building Market Dominance At The Expense of Building A Business? (tags: google Marketing video) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Bourgeault</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2340147</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Bourgeault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason Google hasn't been in too much of a hurry to monetize YouTube (even if they could), is because they've overall been performing well as a stock, in spite of the recent fluctuations.

When their growth slows down, there'll be tremendous pressure from shareholders to monetize the video site.  By law, a public company must do what's the best for its shareholders first - in the U.S. 

This is one of the reasons there's been so much pressure for Time Warner to divest of AOL from its shareholders, as it's seen as holding back the stock.

One of the reasons for the article in Forbes is because the writers know YouTube could get in trouble if the major media content companies don't deal with them, as that's the primary means of monetizing video. 

If the companies don't make deals, YouTube may hold a lot of market share, but it would be irrelevant in the long term, as other sites like Hulu, which people really like, make all the online video money.

For some to say that Google is just holding back and building market share is only partly true, as well as saying it should be a site used as a loss leader. A loss leader to what? No one is going to use Google search because they hear about YouTube. People are already doing that.

The truth is Google has no idea how to make money off it, other than through professional content. At this time the overall poor relationship with traditional media companies is probably the major reason holding them back.

Even assuming the numbers thrown out be Forbes are somewhat accurate, when taking into account expenses, there probably isn't much, if any, profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason Google hasn&#8217;t been in too much of a hurry to monetize YouTube (even if they could), is because they&#8217;ve overall been performing well as a stock, in spite of the recent fluctuations.</p>
<p>When their growth slows down, there&#8217;ll be tremendous pressure from shareholders to monetize the video site.  By law, a public company must do what&#8217;s the best for its shareholders first - in the U.S. </p>
<p>This is one of the reasons there&#8217;s been so much pressure for Time Warner to divest of AOL from its shareholders, as it&#8217;s seen as holding back the stock.</p>
<p>One of the reasons for the article in Forbes is because the writers know YouTube could get in trouble if the major media content companies don&#8217;t deal with them, as that&#8217;s the primary means of monetizing video. </p>
<p>If the companies don&#8217;t make deals, YouTube may hold a lot of market share, but it would be irrelevant in the long term, as other sites like Hulu, which people really like, make all the online video money.</p>
<p>For some to say that Google is just holding back and building market share is only partly true, as well as saying it should be a site used as a loss leader. A loss leader to what? No one is going to use Google search because they hear about YouTube. People are already doing that.</p>
<p>The truth is Google has no idea how to make money off it, other than through professional content. At this time the overall poor relationship with traditional media companies is probably the major reason holding them back.</p>
<p>Even assuming the numbers thrown out be Forbes are somewhat accurate, when taking into account expenses, there probably isn&#8217;t much, if any, profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/30/is-youtube-building-market-dominance-at-the-expense-of-building-a-business/#comment-2339945</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than the choices given in the survey, it is more likely that Forbe's estimate of YouTube's ad revenues is low and eMarketer's estimate of market size is high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than the choices given in the survey, it is more likely that Forbe&#8217;s estimate of YouTube&#8217;s ad revenues is low and eMarketer&#8217;s estimate of market size is high.</p>
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		<title>By: On video &#171; On Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>On video &#171; On Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 08:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which led me to wonder whether the wag at Google who dubbed the service Clown Co is still laughing. YouTube is as popular as ever but apparently struggling to turn all those eyeballs into cash whilst coming under increasing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which led me to wonder whether the wag at Google who dubbed the service Clown Co is still laughing. YouTube is as popular as ever but apparently struggling to turn all those eyeballs into cash whilst coming under increasing [...]</p>
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