Comments on: Multi-touch, the Musical! or The Next Wave for UI http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:08:01 -0800 hourly 1 By: Doug Fox http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2344090 Doug Fox Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:32:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2344090 I think that the future of interfaces will increasingly be based upon gestures and movement (head, arms, torso and legs). Game controllers are leading the way along with developments in robotics and, as mentioned above, multitouch. Plus, intentions, expressed through thoughts alone will play an increasingly important role in controlling a range of devices as a result of on-going medical and scientific experiments. I put together this list of video resources about 2 months ago to support my premise of where I think new interfaces are heading: http://tinyurl.com/4pa8z3 I gave-up on PCs just 3 months ago after 2 decades. The PC guy on the mac commercial just wore me down and I gave-up! I think that the future of interfaces will increasingly be based upon gestures and movement (head, arms, torso and legs). Game controllers are leading the way along with developments in robotics and, as mentioned above, multitouch. Plus, intentions, expressed through thoughts alone will play an increasingly important role in controlling a range of devices as a result of on-going medical and scientific experiments.

I put together this list of video resources about 2 months ago to support my premise of where I think new interfaces are heading:
http://tinyurl.com/4pa8z3

I gave-up on PCs just 3 months ago after 2 decades. The PC guy on the mac commercial just wore me down and I gave-up!

]]> By: Jose Miguel Cansado http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2337945 Jose Miguel Cansado Fri, 30 May 2008 15:29:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2337945 Remember Minority Report? Tom Cruise moving windows by moving his hand? Gesture recognition (see clip below) is getting quite advanced http://tech-talk.biz/2008/05/2.....ty-report/ So why instead of Microsoft copying the iPhone interface, they do not just add gesture recognition? Wouldn’t Touchless be better than Touch computing? Think of controlling your TV screen and Media Center from your sofa without a remote.. Remember Minority Report? Tom Cruise moving windows by moving his hand?
Gesture recognition (see clip below) is getting quite advanced
http://tech-tal...30;..ty-report/

So why instead of Microsoft copying the iPhone interface, they do not just add gesture recognition? Wouldn’t Touchless be better than Touch computing? Think of controlling your TV screen and Media Center from your sofa without a remote..

]]> By: links for 2008-05-29 « 個人的な雑記 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2336761 links for 2008-05-29 « 個人的な雑記 Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2336761 [...] Multi-touch, the Musical! or The Next Wave for UI (tags: UI) [...] [...] Multi-touch, the Musical! or The Next Wave for UI (tags: UI) [...]

]]> By: Guillermo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2336473 Guillermo Thu, 29 May 2008 19:10:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2336473 True innovation, that would lead to surpassing the dominant menu driven paradigm for the desktop, won't occur solely in the form of new devices, as outstanding the interactions that they enable may be. It will happen when the UI 'learns' from these devices and is able to adapt to what each of them has to offer. Therefore I can't see the future of HMI to be driven towards one form of interaction or another, but rather as the unification of devices in a coherent environment; It wouldn't be wise to get rid of the mouse and the keyboard, because they have proven to be effective, but new additions that enhanced interaction would always be welcomed. True innovation, that would lead to surpassing the dominant menu driven paradigm for the desktop, won’t occur solely in the form of new devices, as outstanding the interactions that they enable may be. It will happen when the UI ‘learns’ from these devices and is able to adapt to what each of them has to offer.

Therefore I can’t see the future of HMI to be driven towards one form of interaction or another, but rather as the unification of devices in a coherent environment; It wouldn’t be wise to get rid of the mouse and the keyboard, because they have proven to be effective, but new additions that enhanced interaction would always be welcomed.

]]> By: Ofer Shochet http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2336397 Ofer Shochet Thu, 29 May 2008 18:18:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2336397 "But after playing with speech recognition, I’m convinced we shouldn’t be touching our computers at all. These, I feel, are the next big step in PC UI" This reference to speech recognition usage is for dictation of long texts (e.g. article) in an interactive manner with constant review of the result and fixing things and putting punctuations via a keyboard. This cannot be the future interface for our computers. You should differentiate between the minor tasks that speech analytics can contribute and full interaction. “But after playing with speech recognition, I’m convinced we shouldn’t be touching our computers at all. These, I feel, are the next big step in PC UI”

This reference to speech recognition usage is for dictation of long texts (e.g. article) in an interactive manner with constant review of the result and fixing things and putting punctuations via a keyboard. This cannot be the future interface for our computers. You should differentiate between the minor tasks that speech analytics can contribute and full interaction.

]]> By: Greg http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2336207 Greg Thu, 29 May 2008 16:50:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2336207 @ButtMunch. I'm glad you're so proud of yourself for not using Windows. That doesn't change the fact that John is probably right. @ButtMunch. I’m glad you’re so proud of yourself for not using Windows. That doesn’t change the fact that John is probably right.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2336027 Ryan Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2336027 @buttmunch retards? C'mon. Interesting gadget. Ryan lessons in brevity: http://www.mofata.com @buttmunch retards? C’mon. Interesting gadget.

Ryan
lessons in brevity: http://www.mofata.com

]]> By: ButtMunch http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2336006 ButtMunch Thu, 29 May 2008 15:02:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2336006 "most of us will use Windows until we’re old and gray" I am 17 and proud MacOSX and Ubuntu user. M$ is for retards like you who don't know better. “most of us will use Windows until we’re old and gray”

I am 17 and proud MacOSX and Ubuntu user.

M$ is for retards like you who don’t know better.

]]> By: John Biggs http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335961 John Biggs Thu, 29 May 2008 14:25:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335961 @Moshe - exactly. and what happens when it goes 3D? Try using photoshop in real space. @Moshe – exactly. and what happens when it goes 3D? Try using photoshop in real space.

]]> By: Moshe Isaacson http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335876 Moshe Isaacson Thu, 29 May 2008 13:29:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335876 I'm curious when the usability gurus will notice the advent of multi-touch and begin rethinking how programs are designed. I’m curious when the usability gurus will notice the advent of multi-touch and begin rethinking how programs are designed.

]]> By: Buffalo Bill http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335773 Buffalo Bill Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335773 3D space navigation with surface interface - stuff kids are already doing in schools - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVFsxev-2sk - 3D space navigation with surface interface – stuff kids are already doing in schools – http://www.yout...h?v=uVFsxev-2sk

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]]> By: ogman http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335701 ogman Thu, 29 May 2008 11:51:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335701 @Linux - well said. @Linux – well said.

]]> By: Vidar Hokstad http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335698 Vidar Hokstad Thu, 29 May 2008 11:49:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335698 Speech recognition as a "mainstream" interface is dead and will remain dead. The closest we may get to it is if it is possible to achieve reliable recognition based on sub-vocalization (i.e. "speaking" without sound). Look at most office landscapes, and ask yourself how it would be if everyone was talking to their computers. More importantly, I may talk faster than I write when I speak a natural language, but not when I try to enter commands or tell a computer something. As for 3D surface manipulation, it may be useful for a lot of things, but most of us are not manipulating 3D objects, and while there may be some limited use of 3D surface manipulation in a "normal" interface, to move documents for example, they largely will require large surfaces to be effective. My laptop screen is too small - I keep windows maximized and use virtual desktops to switch between applications. I can manipulate that far faster with a key combination than if I had to lift my hands from the keyboard. Even touch is overrated - if I have to lift my hands from the keyboard it slows me down. If I use an on screen keyboard it gets smudged and I miss the tactile feedback. I've gotten to the point where I much prefer my laptop trackpad than a "real" mouse for that matter. Speech recognition as a “mainstream” interface is dead and will remain dead. The closest we may get to it is if it is possible to achieve reliable recognition based on sub-vocalization (i.e. “speaking” without sound). Look at most office landscapes, and ask yourself how it would be if everyone was talking to their computers.

More importantly, I may talk faster than I write when I speak a natural language, but not when I try to enter commands or tell a computer something.

As for 3D surface manipulation, it may be useful for a lot of things, but most of us are not manipulating 3D objects, and while there may be some limited use of 3D surface manipulation in a “normal” interface, to move documents for example, they largely will require large surfaces to be effective. My laptop screen is too small – I keep windows maximized and use virtual desktops to switch between applications. I can manipulate that far faster with a key combination than if I had to lift my hands from the keyboard.

Even touch is overrated – if I have to lift my hands from the keyboard it slows me down. If I use an on screen keyboard it gets smudged and I miss the tactile feedback. I’ve gotten to the point where I much prefer my laptop trackpad than a “real” mouse for that matter.

]]> By: Mayer http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335662 Mayer Thu, 29 May 2008 11:21:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335662 Sorry John not Mike. Sorry John not Mike.

]]> By: Mayer http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335658 Mayer Thu, 29 May 2008 11:19:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335658 Mike- A great company out of Israel called Omek Interactive has a cool UI. Friends of mine know the founders and have seen the live demo, they say it is unreal. They may just have the answer to the future of UI that doesnt require a keyboard, mouse, controller and the like but just a simple web cam. (I am in no way connected to the company) http://www.omekinteractive.com/ Mike-

A great company out of Israel called Omek Interactive has a cool UI. Friends of mine know the founders and have seen the live demo, they say it is unreal. They may just have the answer to the future of UI that doesnt require a keyboard, mouse, controller and the like but just a simple web cam.
(I am in no way connected to the company)
http://www.omek...nteractive.com/

]]> By: Linux http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335657 Linux Thu, 29 May 2008 11:17:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335657 “give the fact that most of us will use Windows until we’re old and gray” Fucking idiot… “give the fact that most of us will use Windows until we’re old and gray”
Fucking idiot…

]]> By: Raul Riera http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335644 Raul Riera Thu, 29 May 2008 11:09:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335644 What is with people and this site lately? DONT COME HERE if you don't like the articles, its as simple as that. What is with people and this site lately? DONT COME HERE if you don’t like the articles, its as simple as that.

]]> By: Guillaume http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335642 Guillaume Thu, 29 May 2008 11:07:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335642 @ #1 Yep, I think you're missing a brain. The point isn't that much the news story than the interesting insight into UI trends that will most probably affect the way you work & live in the digital era for the 50 - 60 years you probably still have to live... I agree with John that exploring other forms of computer input than the mouse / keyboard / desktop metaphor will revolutionize the way we work & play. I'm longing for that iron-man like engineering design interface :-) @ #1 Yep, I think you’re missing a brain.

The point isn’t that much the news story than the interesting insight into UI trends that will most probably affect the way you work & live in the digital era for the 50 – 60 years you probably still have to live…

I agree with John that exploring other forms of computer input than the mouse / keyboard / desktop metaphor will revolutionize the way we work & play. I’m longing for that iron-man like engineering design interface :-)

]]> By: Phobox http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/comment-page-1/#comment-2335622 Phobox Thu, 29 May 2008 10:58:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/multi-touch-the-musical-or-the-next-wave-for-ui/#comment-2335622 am I missing something? where is the news story here/? reallyyyy boring. am I missing something? where is the news story here/? reallyyyy boring.

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