Comments on: Don’t Debug Alone With FiveRuns’ TuneUp http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/ Startup and Technology News Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:34:51 -0800 hourly 1 By: Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink | ScooperNews.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-3011581 Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink | ScooperNews.com Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-3011581 [...] in production (Manage was discontinued this summer); TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...] [...] in production (Manage was discontinued this summer); TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...]

]]> By: Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink | ScooperNews.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-3011580 Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink | ScooperNews.com Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:30:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-3011580 [...] in production (Manage was discontinued this summer); TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...] [...] in production (Manage was discontinued this summer); TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...]

]]> By: Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink | facternet: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-3011558 Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink | facternet: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:20:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-3011558 [...] that monitors your Rails applications in production; TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...] [...] that monitors your Rails applications in production; TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...]

]]> By: Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-3011555 Ruby-On-Rails Startup FiveRuns Acquired By WorkThink Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:17:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-3011555 [...] that monitors your Rails applications in production; TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...] [...] that monitors your Rails applications in production; TuneUp (a debugging tool which we wrote about here); and Dash, which was a metrics, storage, reporting, and communication hub for applications [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » links for 2008-05-31 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2339130 People Over Process » links for 2008-05-31 Sat, 31 May 2008 07:30:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2339130 [...] Don’t Debug Alone With FiveRuns’ TuneUp (tags: TechCrunch fiveruns performance collaborativesystemsmanagement debugging redmonkclients rails) [...] [...] Don’t Debug Alone With FiveRuns’ TuneUp (tags: TechCrunch fiveruns performance collaborativesystemsmanagement debugging redmonkclients rails) [...]

]]> By: links for 2008-05-30 « 個人的な雑記 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2338651 links for 2008-05-30 « 個人的な雑記 Fri, 30 May 2008 22:50:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2338651 [...] Don’t Debug Alone With FiveRuns’ TuneUp (tags: debugging performance programming debug RoR) [...] [...] Don’t Debug Alone With FiveRuns’ TuneUp (tags: debugging performance programming debug RoR) [...]

]]> By: Peter Urban http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2338109 Peter Urban Fri, 30 May 2008 17:25:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2338109 The Ruby vs. PHP vs. whatever discussions are tiering. Use what fits your bill and be aware of your choices strength and weaknesses and the consequences thereof. The Ruby vs. PHP vs. whatever discussions are tiering. Use what fits your bill and be aware of your choices strength and weaknesses and the consequences thereof.

]]> By: Trevor Turk http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337873 Trevor Turk Fri, 30 May 2008 14:39:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337873 Just a quick note - I'm the author of El Dorado (the app they use in the demo). If you're interested in social sites and Rails, make sure to check it out. Clearly, there's room for optimization, and I'm always looking for contributors! El Dorado is a full-stack community web application written in Ruby/Rails. It features a forum, event calendar, group chat, file sharing, random headers, avatars, themes, timezone support, and privacy settings. Homepage: http://almosteffortless.com/eldorado Demo and support site: http://eldorado.almosteffortless.com Open source git repository: http://github.com/trevorturk/el-dorado/tree/master Just a quick note – I’m the author of El Dorado (the app they use in the demo). If you’re interested in social sites and Rails, make sure to check it out. Clearly, there’s room for optimization, and I’m always looking for contributors!

El Dorado is a full-stack community web application written in Ruby/Rails. It features a forum, event calendar, group chat, file sharing, random headers, avatars, themes, timezone support, and privacy settings.

Homepage: http://almostef...ss.com/eldorado
Demo and support site: http://eldorado...teffortless.com
Open source git repository: http://github.c...ado/tree/master

]]> By: Mike Perham http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337869 Mike Perham Fri, 30 May 2008 14:34:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337869 One thing the article doesn't mention is TuneUp is FREE. No need to buy a license for Twitter. :-) One thing the article doesn’t mention is TuneUp is FREE. No need to buy a license for Twitter. :-)

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » もう１人じゃない！FiveRunsのTuneUpでみんなでデバック http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337444 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » もう１人じゃない！FiveRunsのTuneUpでみんなでデバック Fri, 30 May 2008 08:18:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337444 [...] [原文へ]　 [...] [...] [原文へ]　 [...]

]]> By: Henry Work http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337312 Henry Work Fri, 30 May 2008 06:50:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337312 @Marcin I kind of doubt these are the guys to use this approach with other languages -- they seem like pretty hardcore "Rubyists." Also, I think it's important to note that yes, Ruby/Rails does have a lot of hype. I think it lives up to it in a lot of ways, but I'm totally with you in the sense of owning the news cycle. @Marcin I kind of doubt these are the guys to use this approach with other languages — they seem like pretty hardcore “Rubyists.” Also, I think it’s important to note that yes, Ruby/Rails does have a lot of hype. I think it lives up to it in a lot of ways, but I’m totally with you in the sense of owning the news cycle.

]]> By: Marcin Grodzicki http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337273 Marcin Grodzicki Fri, 30 May 2008 06:23:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337273 I wonder whether they'll also do it for PHP/Java - it could be a (potentially) good tool for comparing languages (in terms of performance). Also I still thing there's a lot more done in PHP or Java than Ruby - regardless of it's hype. I wonder whether they’ll also do it for PHP/Java – it could be a (potentially) good tool for comparing languages (in terms of performance). Also I still thing there’s a lot more done in PHP or Java than Ruby – regardless of it’s hype.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337249 Ryan Fri, 30 May 2008 06:08:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337249 Interesting, good information. I think this could be useful. @khang I think you're right Ryan lessons in brevity: http://www.mofata.com Interesting, good information. I think this could be useful.

@khang I think you’re right

Ryan
lessons in brevity: http://www.mofata.com

]]> By: Khang Toh http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337178 Khang Toh Fri, 30 May 2008 05:29:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337178 @Henry, I believe StackOverflow is taking the more generic approach (as in not just catering to Ruby programmers). Khang @Henry, I believe StackOverflow is taking the more generic approach (as in not just catering to Ruby programmers).

Khang

]]> By: gilltots http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337166 gilltots Fri, 30 May 2008 05:20:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337166 @Josh for reference, look how bad PHP, ruby, and python all rank in terms of performance (as in, none of them are "robust"): http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=all and you can have performance problems in any language if you're doing something stupid, or running a slow Db query. the language used doesn't magically prevent that. but i'm not seeing what this new tool gives you that you can't just get from your log file - the visual cues seems to be the only thing - i'd rather just run rawk.rb on my production logs to see which optimizations will yield the most benefit. @Josh

for reference, look how bad PHP, ruby, and python all rank in terms of performance (as in, none of them are “robust”):

http://shootout...ll&lang=all

and you can have performance problems in any language if you’re doing something stupid, or running a slow Db query. the language used doesn’t magically prevent that.

but i’m not seeing what this new tool gives you that you can’t just get from your log file – the visual cues seems to be the only thing – i’d rather just run rawk.rb on my production logs to see which optimizations will yield the most benefit.

]]> By: Ross http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337146 Ross Fri, 30 May 2008 05:09:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337146 Who wants to throw in to buy a license for twitter? Ross -http://www.hostdisciple.com Who wants to throw in to buy a license for twitter?

Ross
-http://www.hostdisciple.com

]]> By: Josh http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337134 Josh Fri, 30 May 2008 04:59:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337134 The other solution, of course, is to go with a language that's actually robust, like PHP, instead of relying on other people to help you with problems you shouldn't be having. The other solution, of course, is to go with a language that’s actually robust, like PHP, instead of relying on other people to help you with problems you shouldn’t be having.

]]> By: Jesus H Christ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337133 Jesus H Christ Fri, 30 May 2008 04:57:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337133 who's this henry work feller? who’s this henry work feller?

]]> By: Henry Work http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/comment-page-1/#comment-2337097 Henry Work Fri, 30 May 2008 04:25:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/dont-debug-alone-with-fiveruns-tuneup/#comment-2337097 FYI the gem installation is still down; they are most likely partying in Portland. On a separate note, I wonder if this is what Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky have in mind with <a href="http://www.stackoverflow.com" rel="nofollow">StackOverflow</a>. FYI the gem installation is still down; they are most likely partying in Portland.

On a separate note, I wonder if this is what Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky have in mind with StackOverflow.

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