Comments on: OpenID To Look For New Leadership http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:29:27 -0800 hourly 1 By: Adrian http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2340778 Adrian Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:40:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2340778 Bingo buzzword, gratuitous use of "going forward" gets you points with the bureaucrats, makes you the laughing stock of the real world. Bingo buzzword, gratuitous use of “going forward” gets you points with the bureaucrats, makes you the laughing stock of the real world.

]]> By: Peter Verkooijen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2336255 Peter Verkooijen Thu, 29 May 2008 17:10:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2336255 @PeoplePortability, was Chris Saad implying that he's a 'great thinker'? What a joke! The data portability debate is ridiculously pompous. This is not some fundamental human rights issue. Ultimately sites will decide based on their business interests whether they'll go along with data portability. For some sites it will make sense, for others it won't. Saad's efforts will end up handing Google more opportunities for making money on other people's data/content, making Google even more rich and powerful. The whole web 2.0 everything-is-free (paid by advertising) paradigm is rooted in user data. If you take that away, expect to pay for services. @PeoplePortability, was Chris Saad implying that he’s a ‘great thinker’? What a joke!

The data portability debate is ridiculously pompous. This is not some fundamental human rights issue.

Ultimately sites will decide based on their business interests whether they’ll go along with data portability. For some sites it will make sense, for others it won’t.

Saad’s efforts will end up handing Google more opportunities for making money on other people’s data/content, making Google even more rich and powerful.

The whole web 2.0 everything-is-free (paid by advertising) paradigm is rooted in user data. If you take that away, expect to pay for services.

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » OpenIDは新たなリーダーシップを模索中 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334604 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » OpenIDは新たなリーダーシップを模索中 Thu, 29 May 2008 00:23:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334604 [...] ［原文へ］ [...] [...] ［原文へ］ [...]

]]> By: Frank Church http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334603 Frank Church Thu, 29 May 2008 00:23:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334603 @ R. Titus (#13), I think you hit the nail on the head. If one entity knows: 1) every site I log into 2) how often I log in There is a great amount of metadata there, and if someone is collecting that data, I want the ability to view it and erase it permanently (or even download it when technically feasible). @ R. Titus (#13), I think you hit the nail on the head.

If one entity knows:

1) every site I log into
2) how often I log in

There is a great amount of metadata there, and if someone is collecting that data, I want the ability to view it and erase it permanently (or even download it when technically feasible).

]]> By: Gleb http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334584 Gleb Thu, 29 May 2008 00:14:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334584 OpenID is too complicated for end-users. I don't see any future for it. - type your open id - get redirected to a 3d party website - login there What's the point? If it actually kept you loged in, that's another thing. Browsers are good at storing passwords right now, so keeping one login and different passwords for all sites solve the problem. Using google-accounts is less sofisticated and let's you login with 2 clicks. The main problem is that when you sign up on a new site you still have to enter tons of data. An open ID should have stored all the data like contacts, screen-names on all the services, basic profile data and images and show which data a 3d party web-site will get if you deside to join it. Decentralisation is good... But it kills the concept. Users should be send to one site to login. OpenID is a highly needed, but dead concept. Untill they restructure it - it will stay dead even if google, myspace, facebook and yahoo will start accepting OpenID logins. OpenID is too complicated for end-users. I don’t see any future for it.
- type your open id
- get redirected to a 3d party website
- login there
What’s the point? If it actually kept you loged in, that’s another thing.
Browsers are good at storing passwords right now, so keeping one login and different passwords for all sites solve the problem.
Using google-accounts is less sofisticated and let’s you login with 2 clicks.

The main problem is that when you sign up on a new site you still have to enter tons of data. An open ID should have stored all the data like contacts, screen-names on all the services, basic profile data and images and show which data a 3d party web-site will get if you deside to join it.

Decentralisation is good…
But it kills the concept. Users should be send to one site to login.

OpenID is a highly needed, but dead concept.
Untill they restructure it – it will stay dead even if google, myspace, facebook and yahoo will start accepting OpenID logins.

]]> By: mary hodder http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334232 mary hodder Wed, 28 May 2008 21:05:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334232 #3 John: What you describe is, I think, Inames. Which is one of the types of OpenID. Your provider is essentially a domain seller, and there is a DNS-like lookup when I use =mary. There are other OpenID types as well... most popular being the URL string from things like Live Journal or Yahoo. But the point is, whether you use a URL string or an Iname, the ID system looks up the origin, sends you to your provider, you login, and then they authenticate you back to the system you are trying to get into. mary #3 John:
What you describe is, I think, Inames. Which is one of the types of OpenID. Your provider is essentially a domain seller, and there is a DNS-like lookup when I use =mary. There are other OpenID types as well… most popular being the URL string from things like Live Journal or Yahoo. But the point is, whether you use a URL string or an Iname, the ID system looks up the origin, sends you to your provider, you login, and then they authenticate you back to the system you are trying to get into.

mary

]]> By: R. Titus http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334127 R. Titus Wed, 28 May 2008 19:56:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334127 Interesting.. I think Open ID is perfectly positioned for success. All of the early adopters have the headache, the audience is just waking up to the migraine - I just hope it's successful before someone less benevolent makes a more limited solution.. Although, secretly, I think perhaps there's danger around things like this... identity, behavioral metadata - these are the next generations crown jewels. Interesting.. I think Open ID is perfectly positioned for success. All of the early adopters have the headache, the audience is just waking up to the migraine – I just hope it’s successful before someone less benevolent makes a more limited solution..

Although, secretly, I think perhaps there’s danger around things like this… identity, behavioral metadata – these are the next generations crown jewels.

]]> By: Steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334118 Steve Wed, 28 May 2008 19:53:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334118 soft termination >> featured (with photo) on techcrunch >> no longer so soft! poor guy:) soft termination >> featured (with photo) on techcrunch >> no longer so soft!

poor guy:)

]]> By: Scott Kveton http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334106 Scott Kveton Wed, 28 May 2008 19:49:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334106 Here is the official post from the OpenID Foundation: http://openid.net/2008/05/28/a-new-chapter-in-the-oidf/ Here is the official post from the OpenID Foundation:

http://openid.n...er-in-the-oidf/

]]> By: OpenIDwatch http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334100 OpenIDwatch Wed, 28 May 2008 19:46:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334100 Also don't forget that OpenId still has lots of questions to be answered -- http://idcorner.org/2007/08/22/the-problems-with-openid/ Also don’t forget that OpenId still has lots of questions to be answered –
http://idcorner...ms-with-openid/

]]> By: Dick Hardt http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334099 Dick Hardt Wed, 28 May 2008 19:45:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334099 Must be a slow news day for this to hit TechCrunch. Like any growing organization, the skill sets required change. Bill has met our exceeded the Foundations expectations. We just need another set of skills for the next phase of the Foundation, and Bill will be an active part of that transition. Must be a slow news day for this to hit TechCrunch.

Like any growing organization, the skill sets required change. Bill has met our exceeded the Foundations expectations. We just need another set of skills for the next phase of the Foundation, and Bill will be an active part of that transition.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334086 Jeff Wed, 28 May 2008 19:39:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334086 Don't forget that OpenId just added 2-Factor Authentication via the phone -- now making it wicked secure http://janrain.com/blog/2008/05/12/phone-based-two-factor-authentication-now-available-for-openid/ Don’t forget that OpenId just added 2-Factor Authentication via the phone — now making it wicked secure

http://janrain....ble-for-openid/

]]> By: Pandrogas http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334083 Pandrogas Wed, 28 May 2008 19:37:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334083 I'm still waiting for OpenID to just work. Big companies issue IDs, little sites accept them, but the whole process still makes little sense to the avergage user as there's some sort of key or thing that allows for the login process... Can't we just use a username and password, store the credentials somewhere and authenticate using that, then create the data profiles from there? Isn't that the point here? Then why is it taking so damn long to get this system developed and simplified for everyone to use? [/Rant] I’m still waiting for OpenID to just work. Big companies issue IDs, little sites accept them, but the whole process still makes little sense to the avergage user as there’s some sort of key or thing that allows for the login process… Can’t we just use a username and password, store the credentials somewhere and authenticate using that, then create the data profiles from there? Isn’t that the point here?

Then why is it taking so damn long to get this system developed and simplified for everyone to use? [/Rant]

]]> By: Nik Bonaddio http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334078 Nik Bonaddio Wed, 28 May 2008 19:33:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334078 I recommend some of the lead influencers who brought Yahoo! OpenID to fruition. Guys like Shreyas Doshi and Allen Tom of Yahoo! have contributed much to the community and would be an excellent choice to help lead the charge. I recommend some of the lead influencers who brought Yahoo! OpenID to fruition. Guys like Shreyas Doshi and Allen Tom of Yahoo! have contributed much to the community and would be an excellent choice to help lead the charge.

]]> By: PeoplePortability http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334077 PeoplePortability Wed, 28 May 2008 19:33:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334077 @1 -- <blockquote> Lately I have been thinking a lot about leadership and this quote keeps coming to mind. “<b>Great thinkers</b> have always encountered <b>violent opposition</b> from mediocre minds” - Albert Einstein Ever wondered why that’s the case? </blockquote> quoted from http://chrissaad.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/violent-opposition/, interesting read... :-) @1 –

Lately I have been thinking a lot about leadership and this quote keeps coming to mind.

“Great thinkers have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds” – Albert Einstein

Ever wondered why that’s the case?

quoted from http://chrissaa...ent-opposition/, interesting read… :-)

]]> By: Eric Florenzano http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334065 Eric Florenzano Wed, 28 May 2008 19:26:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334065 We've really got to make OpenID work, whether that means fixing it or just getting people to implement it. Otherwise, the next open standards initiative will be met with even more apprehension than this one was met with. We’ve really got to make OpenID work, whether that means fixing it or just getting people to implement it. Otherwise, the next open standards initiative will be met with even more apprehension than this one was met with.

]]> By: john http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334064 john Wed, 28 May 2008 19:26:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334064 Just an idea... what if GoDaddy issued open ids or an open id service when you purchase/register a domain. I think this is actually what Google Apps or some other company should do but I'm sure a registrar could easily sell it or offer it as a value add. Open ID should be setup like an MX record so that you have absolute control over the identity. Just an idea… what if GoDaddy issued open ids or an open id service when you purchase/register a domain. I think this is actually what Google Apps or some other company should do but I’m sure a registrar could easily sell it or offer it as a value add.

Open ID should be setup like an MX record so that you have absolute control over the identity.

]]> By: abhi http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334041 abhi Wed, 28 May 2008 19:16:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334041 Okay this might be a bad place, But has anybody noticed Yahoo finance launched Free <a href="http://www.digitalpurview.com/yahoo-offers-free-real-time-stock-quote" rel="nofollow">realtime stock quotes</a>. There does not seem to be any official announcement. I apologies for being off topic. Okay this might be a bad place, But has anybody noticed Yahoo finance launched Free realtime stock quotes. There does not seem to be any official announcement. I apologies for being off topic.

]]> By: SearcH◆◇ EngineS WEB http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-2334029 SearcH◆◇ EngineS WEB Wed, 28 May 2008 19:11:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/openid-to-look-for-new-leadership/#comment-2334029 Talk about euphemisms.......has anyone ever experienced a 'soft termination'? Does it make you any less fired :-? Talk about euphemisms…….has anyone ever experienced a ’soft termination’?

Does it make you any less fired :-?

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