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	<title>Comments on: 3G iPhones At Any Cost?  Cell Tower Deaths on the Rise.</title>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2642281</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The industry is ignoring the fact that the pulsed electro-magnetic waves at these sites are confusing to the human senses.  Mix that up with office bound shedulers and you have a formula for disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The industry is ignoring the fact that the pulsed electro-magnetic waves at these sites are confusing to the human senses.  Mix that up with office bound shedulers and you have a formula for disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: mobile computing &#187; Fatal Mobile Technology</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2584303</link>
		<dc:creator>mobile computing &#187; Fatal Mobile Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: harley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2476091</link>
		<dc:creator>harley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>back in about 1998 quest or qwest were getting ready to kick off their network . they told the company that I was working for they had to have about 15  tower done in 30 days. we only had about 10 workers. I&#039;ve never worked so hard in my life. it wasn&#039;t about getting enough hours to get enough money to pay rent or buy a truck. it was about getting the job done so I can get some sleep. we slept in our trucks enough to give us enough energy to keep working. we pretty much worked as much our body could do and then slept day or night. our company said &quot;do what you can do, don&#039;t kill your self&quot; quest said &quot;get it done&quot; they had done there public anouncement of there network startup a month ago. my point being I guess is that these networks say that such and such will happen at this date and it will happen at a cost to the workers. there are only so many tower companys out there and when a network wants something done all these tower companys are doing these things for these networks and when the network can&#039;t get their deadlines straight that&#039;s when contractors die</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>back in about 1998 quest or qwest were getting ready to kick off their network . they told the company that I was working for they had to have about 15  tower done in 30 days. we only had about 10 workers. I&#8217;ve never worked so hard in my life. it wasn&#8217;t about getting enough hours to get enough money to pay rent or buy a truck. it was about getting the job done so I can get some sleep. we slept in our trucks enough to give us enough energy to keep working. we pretty much worked as much our body could do and then slept day or night. our company said &#8220;do what you can do, don&#8217;t kill your self&#8221; quest said &#8220;get it done&#8221; they had done there public anouncement of there network startup a month ago. my point being I guess is that these networks say that such and such will happen at this date and it will happen at a cost to the workers. there are only so many tower companys out there and when a network wants something done all these tower companys are doing these things for these networks and when the network can&#8217;t get their deadlines straight that&#8217;s when contractors die</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2474268</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dam thts  weird probably  they  wernt straped down  im  a  tower tech for high  maintance comunication</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dam thts  weird probably  they  wernt straped down  im  a  tower tech for high  maintance comunication</p>
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		<title>By: skynoodle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2336709</link>
		<dc:creator>skynoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m a communication tower climber and have been for over 11 years. Anyone interested in the fatality rate of this workforce should understand that often there is a chain of contractors 5 deep between AT&amp;T and the lowest tier contractor and the second level is always a mega general contractor. If you were to drive to an AT&amp;T site and ask one of the climbers who he’s working for “Bechtel” would be as likely an answer as “AT&amp;T”. To draw a straight line between AT&amp;T and the dead tower climbers is to ignore every entity in between, each pushing as hard. It is also to ignore the fact that there were other fatalities on non-AT&amp;T projects. 

The information available on theses fatalities so far this year, though, indicate the tower climbers were not using the fall arrest safety equipment they were supplied and they were not following the industry wide “100% tie off” rule. Who can be blamed for that? Certainly not AT&amp;T as they, in fact, have very little contact with the tower climbers. 

I don’t know your motivation for writing about these deaths. The total lack of meaningful research as well as the provocative tone suggests to me that you are much more interested in engaging in sensationalist sound bite media than the subject you wrote about here. 

By the way there actually have been 7 tower climber fatalities this year, not 6. The most recent death occurred May 22, 2008 in Dade County, Florida and the climber was not working on an AT&amp;T project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a communication tower climber and have been for over 11 years. Anyone interested in the fatality rate of this workforce should understand that often there is a chain of contractors 5 deep between AT&amp;T and the lowest tier contractor and the second level is always a mega general contractor. If you were to drive to an AT&amp;T site and ask one of the climbers who he’s working for “Bechtel” would be as likely an answer as “AT&amp;T”. To draw a straight line between AT&amp;T and the dead tower climbers is to ignore every entity in between, each pushing as hard. It is also to ignore the fact that there were other fatalities on non-AT&amp;T projects. </p>
<p>The information available on theses fatalities so far this year, though, indicate the tower climbers were not using the fall arrest safety equipment they were supplied and they were not following the industry wide “100% tie off” rule. Who can be blamed for that? Certainly not AT&amp;T as they, in fact, have very little contact with the tower climbers. </p>
<p>I don’t know your motivation for writing about these deaths. The total lack of meaningful research as well as the provocative tone suggests to me that you are much more interested in engaging in sensationalist sound bite media than the subject you wrote about here. </p>
<p>By the way there actually have been 7 tower climber fatalities this year, not 6. The most recent death occurred May 22, 2008 in Dade County, Florida and the climber was not working on an AT&amp;T project.</p>
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		<title>By: Philburn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2336433</link>
		<dc:creator>Philburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, thanks Charbax.

I love how you use the word &quot;Fact&quot; so much, but are unable to produce a shred of evidence of this child sex slavery by corporate America. 

In order to use the word &quot;Fact&quot; you kind of need to show us some evidence, you twit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, thanks Charbax.</p>
<p>I love how you use the word &#8220;Fact&#8221; so much, but are unable to produce a shred of evidence of this child sex slavery by corporate America. </p>
<p>In order to use the word &#8220;Fact&#8221; you kind of need to show us some evidence, you twit.</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2335990</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact is AT&amp;T, Apple and many other large coorporations selling in the USA do use what should be described as slavery, do employ children, do not care about workers rights, they do exploit developping nations and do not care about workers safety.

That is also how our so-called free market works. You produce your product in countries that underpay and don&#039;t respect human rights. You use so-called contractors an other intermediaries to not have responsibillity for the workers, may they be in illegal unsafe and underpaid workig conditions.


People should look at the facts, the fre market is not fair if it is not regulated and that all workers are equally cared for and that all companies are held responsible for the work and pollution being done on their priducts, no matter the intermediaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact is AT&amp;T, Apple and many other large coorporations selling in the USA do use what should be described as slavery, do employ children, do not care about workers rights, they do exploit developping nations and do not care about workers safety.</p>
<p>That is also how our so-called free market works. You produce your product in countries that underpay and don&#8217;t respect human rights. You use so-called contractors an other intermediaries to not have responsibillity for the workers, may they be in illegal unsafe and underpaid workig conditions.</p>
<p>People should look at the facts, the fre market is not fair if it is not regulated and that all workers are equally cared for and that all companies are held responsible for the work and pollution being done on their priducts, no matter the intermediaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Grover Ursula</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2335918</link>
		<dc:creator>Grover Ursula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some observations about this piece:
1.  The author must know little about cellular technologies.
2.  The author must care little about defamation and potential libel implications of his remarks about AT&amp;T.
3.  The author must be writing more for entertainment than with journalistic intent.

I would expect more from the writers and editors at TechCrunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some observations about this piece:<br />
1.  The author must know little about cellular technologies.<br />
2.  The author must care little about defamation and potential libel implications of his remarks about AT&amp;T.<br />
3.  The author must be writing more for entertainment than with journalistic intent.</p>
<p>I would expect more from the writers and editors at TechCrunch.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2335751</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, according to the article, there were 0 deaths in the four months before April - those months being, umm, WINTER. I suspect that there quite simply wasn&#039;t as much work being done on the towers during that time due to weather - which I&#039;m relatively sure neither Apple nor AT&amp;T controls. Why not practice at least the most basic fragment of journalism and at least have comparison data from the same period last year. Although, of course, every lost life is tragic, there is nothing in your article that indicates this is actually unusual for the industry (and perhaps that should be the real story).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, according to the article, there were 0 deaths in the four months before April &#8211; those months being, umm, WINTER. I suspect that there quite simply wasn&#8217;t as much work being done on the towers during that time due to weather &#8211; which I&#8217;m relatively sure neither Apple nor AT&amp;T controls. Why not practice at least the most basic fragment of journalism and at least have comparison data from the same period last year. Although, of course, every lost life is tragic, there is nothing in your article that indicates this is actually unusual for the industry (and perhaps that should be the real story).</p>
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		<title>By: Sam B</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2335486</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 10:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact: The readership of TechCrunch has risen in recent years.

Fact: So has knife crime in UK inner cities.

Is TechCrunch inspiring youths to stab people?

Phrasing it as a question instead of an answer doesn&#039;t stop it being inane. It&#039;s a mistake to think that you don&#039;t need evidence to ask a question; you need less evidence than you need to state as a fact, but you still need some reason to ask that particular question instead of every other possible question, e.g. &quot;are cell phone tower deaths causing their co-workers to work harder on the 3G network in order to bury their grief&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact: The readership of TechCrunch has risen in recent years.</p>
<p>Fact: So has knife crime in UK inner cities.</p>
<p>Is TechCrunch inspiring youths to stab people?</p>
<p>Phrasing it as a question instead of an answer doesn&#8217;t stop it being inane. It&#8217;s a mistake to think that you don&#8217;t need evidence to ask a question; you need less evidence than you need to state as a fact, but you still need some reason to ask that particular question instead of every other possible question, e.g. &#8220;are cell phone tower deaths causing their co-workers to work harder on the 3G network in order to bury their grief&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionheart</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2334854</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can´t believe you draw that conclusion after such terrible incidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can´t believe you draw that conclusion after such terrible incidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Philburn</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-2/#comment-2334820</link>
		<dc:creator>Philburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The push for the 3G is partially responsible for the increase in fatalities. There is considerable pressure from all of the major management companies to meet AT&amp;T’s rollout.

AT&amp;T says it is as simple as changing software at the base of the tower. Don’t believe that spin for one moment. The work requires us to climb and work on the towers. Period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sorry, but are you actually suggesting that the 3G deadline is more dangerous than the other deadlines you had for previous upgrades?? Seriously, climbing a tower is part of the job. I still don&#039;t understand how you put blood on AT&amp;T&#039;s hands.

Unless installing 3G requires some uniquely dangerous maneuver, there is absolutely no reason why the 3G upgrade should be any more risky than every other upgrade that&#039;s ever been done to a cell tower. 

Maybe if there was some statistic that AT&amp;T is making cell tower works climb twice as many towers per day than normal (as opposed to hiring twice as many workers)...you &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be able to connect to AT&amp;T to the fatalities. But, since Erick didn&#039;t take the time to find such a statistic, we can&#039;t make that kind of connection.

Well...at least a legitimate journalist wouldn&#039;t be able to make that connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The push for the 3G is partially responsible for the increase in fatalities. There is considerable pressure from all of the major management companies to meet AT&amp;T’s rollout.</p>
<p>AT&amp;T says it is as simple as changing software at the base of the tower. Don’t believe that spin for one moment. The work requires us to climb and work on the towers. Period.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but are you actually suggesting that the 3G deadline is more dangerous than the other deadlines you had for previous upgrades?? Seriously, climbing a tower is part of the job. I still don&#8217;t understand how you put blood on AT&amp;T&#8217;s hands.</p>
<p>Unless installing 3G requires some uniquely dangerous maneuver, there is absolutely no reason why the 3G upgrade should be any more risky than every other upgrade that&#8217;s ever been done to a cell tower. </p>
<p>Maybe if there was some statistic that AT&amp;T is making cell tower works climb twice as many towers per day than normal (as opposed to hiring twice as many workers)&#8230;you <i>might</i> be able to connect to AT&amp;T to the fatalities. But, since Erick didn&#8217;t take the time to find such a statistic, we can&#8217;t make that kind of connection.</p>
<p>Well&#8230;at least a legitimate journalist wouldn&#8217;t be able to make that connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Tower Tech Two</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2334576</link>
		<dc:creator>Tower Tech Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s not inane reportage. In fact, I compliment Erick for having the courage to write about a problem that needs to be exposed. Apple’s and AT&amp;T’s degree of culpability is not the issue. The problem is the pressure for tower contractors to get the job done with unreasonable deadlines and pressures. 

Winter is a busy time for cell tower installations. It doesn’t stop with inclement weather. So to state that the reason there haven&#039;t been any deaths during the winter months is not appropriate. In fact, it would make more sense that you would find a higher amount of deaths on AT&amp;T projects when it is more dangerous to climb.

The push for the 3G is partially responsible for the increase in fatalities. There is considerable pressure from all of the major management companies to meet AT&amp;T’s rollout. 

AT&amp;T says it is as simple as changing software at the base of the tower. Don’t believe that spin for one moment. The work requires us to climb and work on the towers. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not inane reportage. In fact, I compliment Erick for having the courage to write about a problem that needs to be exposed. Apple’s and AT&amp;T’s degree of culpability is not the issue. The problem is the pressure for tower contractors to get the job done with unreasonable deadlines and pressures. </p>
<p>Winter is a busy time for cell tower installations. It doesn’t stop with inclement weather. So to state that the reason there haven&#8217;t been any deaths during the winter months is not appropriate. In fact, it would make more sense that you would find a higher amount of deaths on AT&amp;T projects when it is more dangerous to climb.</p>
<p>The push for the 3G is partially responsible for the increase in fatalities. There is considerable pressure from all of the major management companies to meet AT&amp;T’s rollout. </p>
<p>AT&amp;T says it is as simple as changing software at the base of the tower. Don’t believe that spin for one moment. The work requires us to climb and work on the towers. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: JerkCrunch</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2334490</link>
		<dc:creator>JerkCrunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets see, 3 men die working for one phone company, 3 others for some other phone companies and Apple is to blame???

You are really lame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see, 3 men die working for one phone company, 3 others for some other phone companies and Apple is to blame???</p>
<p>You are really lame&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn K</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2334278</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all it takes is a software upgrade, then why isn&#039;t America already blanketed with 3G coverage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all it takes is a software upgrade, then why isn&#8217;t America already blanketed with 3G coverage?</p>
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		<title>By: Mulroney</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/28/3g-iphones-at-any-cost-cell-tower-deaths-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2334241</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulroney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to Philiburn&#039;s points...

&quot;Is AT&amp;T pushing tower-climbing workers too hard as it rolls out its 3G data network in preparation for the launch of the next iPhone?&quot; 

It seems to me that this question is just an attempt to connect the story of horrifying, tragic deaths to technological innovation, thus making these tragic stories relevant statistics for a TechCrunch blog post.

&quot;An AT&amp;T spokesperson denies there is any connection, telling DeWitt that the $20 billion upgrade of AT&amp;T’s data network requires no more than a “software upgrade” at the base of each tower. Yet surely there are times when the towers need to be climbed to troubleshoot the new set-up, place testing equipment on the tower, or remove old equipment that is no longer needed.&quot; 

It sounds like your question was answered here, but you don&#039;t accept the assertion that AT&amp;T towers require no hardware upgrade for the 3rd Generation iPhone based on... absolutely nothing. &quot;Surely there are times when the towers need to be climbed&quot; proves that you disagree with their assertion based on, not journalistic research, but assumptions about wireless towers. 

There has also been an increase in deaths from workers on towers of other service providers (which do not support the iPhone), which suggests that maybe if there is a specific problem, that it may not be unique to AT&amp;T. 

Based on the knowledge that AT&amp;T is doing an upgrade and your own assumptions about what this upgrade requires, you lack the information to actually accuse AT&amp;T of the negligence and &quot;pressure&#039; that resulted in the tragic deaths of three people. So instead you insinuate it by asking a rhetorical question and providing the reader with selective information. This is the same kind of tactic that political smear campaigns use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to Philiburn&#8217;s points&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Is AT&amp;T pushing tower-climbing workers too hard as it rolls out its 3G data network in preparation for the launch of the next iPhone?&#8221; </p>
<p>It seems to me that this question is just an attempt to connect the story of horrifying, tragic deaths to technological innovation, thus making these tragic stories relevant statistics for a TechCrunch blog post.</p>
<p>&#8220;An AT&amp;T spokesperson denies there is any connection, telling DeWitt that the $20 billion upgrade of AT&amp;T’s data network requires no more than a “software upgrade” at the base of each tower. Yet surely there are times when the towers need to be climbed to troubleshoot the new set-up, place testing equipment on the tower, or remove old equipment that is no longer needed.&#8221; </p>
<p>It sounds like your question was answered here, but you don&#8217;t accept the assertion that AT&amp;T towers require no hardware upgrade for the 3rd Generation iPhone based on&#8230; absolutely nothing. &#8220;Surely there are times when the towers need to be climbed&#8221; proves that you disagree with their assertion based on, not journalistic research, but assumptions about wireless towers. </p>
<p>There has also been an increase in deaths from workers on towers of other service providers (which do not support the iPhone), which suggests that maybe if there is a specific problem, that it may not be unique to AT&amp;T. </p>
<p>Based on the knowledge that AT&amp;T is doing an upgrade and your own assumptions about what this upgrade requires, you lack the information to actually accuse AT&amp;T of the negligence and &#8220;pressure&#8217; that resulted in the tragic deaths of three people. So instead you insinuate it by asking a rhetorical question and providing the reader with selective information. This is the same kind of tactic that political smear campaigns use.</p>
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		<title>By: Niraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick, regarding your comment (#33),
&quot;The point of this post is simply to raise the question of whether the two are related (see the question mark in the headline?).&quot;

Putting a question mark in the headline doesn&#039;t change the fact that you&#039;re very obviously trying to create an association where there could be none. With lines like &quot;Hopefully, nobody else will have to die for AT&amp;T to be ready for it.&quot; you are implying a connection. The three deaths you say are &quot;connected to AT&amp;T&quot; are only connected in the Apple article by the fact that the deaths occurred during AT&amp;T projects, not that they were caused by AT&amp;T.

I&#039;m not saying AT&amp;T&#039;s not responsible, there&#039;s not enough facts to go on here. Which is exactly why your article is dangerous in its speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick, regarding your comment (#33),<br />
&#8220;The point of this post is simply to raise the question of whether the two are related (see the question mark in the headline?).&#8221;</p>
<p>Putting a question mark in the headline doesn&#8217;t change the fact that you&#8217;re very obviously trying to create an association where there could be none. With lines like &#8220;Hopefully, nobody else will have to die for AT&amp;T to be ready for it.&#8221; you are implying a connection. The three deaths you say are &#8220;connected to AT&amp;T&#8221; are only connected in the Apple article by the fact that the deaths occurred during AT&amp;T projects, not that they were caused by AT&amp;T.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying AT&amp;T&#8217;s not responsible, there&#8217;s not enough facts to go on here. Which is exactly why your article is dangerous in its speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick your analysis is so unscientific it hurts, I think you deserve most of the negative comments you&#039;ve got.

Try Freakonomics for a fun and easy introduction to cause and effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick your analysis is so unscientific it hurts, I think you deserve most of the negative comments you&#8217;ve got.</p>
<p>Try Freakonomics for a fun and easy introduction to cause and effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Philburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick,

In all seriousness, I think the issue with your story is that you make an accusation without actually making an accusation:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is AT&amp;T pushing tower-climbing workers too hard as it rolls out its 3G data network in preparation for the launch of the next iPhone?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your words.

I know, I know. You simply asked a question. No harm, right? But you are using a question mark in the same manner that Fox News uses when they do a hatchet job on someone. It&#039;s unprofessional. It&#039;s bush league. Just because you work for a blog doesn&#039;t mean you get to say stupid sh*t like that.

Why not simply report on the story the way wirelessestimator.com does it? Simply write that X number of the fatalities happened on AT&amp;T jobs and let the reader ask the question themselves? For instance, &quot;At least half of this year&#039;s fatalities happened while the tower worker was on an AT&amp;T project. — WirelessEstimator.com&quot;

We are smart enough to draw our own conclusions. When you ask the question for the reader, it comes off as a hatchet job. And that&#039;s really unprofessional. TechCrunch has become the Fox News of tech news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick,</p>
<p>In all seriousness, I think the issue with your story is that you make an accusation without actually making an accusation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Is AT&amp;T pushing tower-climbing workers too hard as it rolls out its 3G data network in preparation for the launch of the next iPhone?</p></blockquote>
<p>Your words.</p>
<p>I know, I know. You simply asked a question. No harm, right? But you are using a question mark in the same manner that Fox News uses when they do a hatchet job on someone. It&#8217;s unprofessional. It&#8217;s bush league. Just because you work for a blog doesn&#8217;t mean you get to say stupid sh*t like that.</p>
<p>Why not simply report on the story the way wirelessestimator.com does it? Simply write that X number of the fatalities happened on AT&amp;T jobs and let the reader ask the question themselves? For instance, &#8220;At least half of this year&#8217;s fatalities happened while the tower worker was on an AT&amp;T project. — WirelessEstimator.com&#8221;</p>
<p>We are smart enough to draw our own conclusions. When you ask the question for the reader, it comes off as a hatchet job. And that&#8217;s really unprofessional. TechCrunch has become the Fox News of tech news.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog entry is weaksauce.  

AT&amp;T isnt shooing these guys up the towers and telling them to do it without safety precautions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog entry is weaksauce.  </p>
<p>AT&amp;T isnt shooing these guys up the towers and telling them to do it without safety precautions.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your hippie &quot;we care whether people live or die&quot; spiel is not going over well, here, in Objectivist-land. We are libertarians -- we believe in the power of profit, nothing more, nothing less. All else is inconsequential. Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your hippie &#8220;we care whether people live or die&#8221; spiel is not going over well, here, in Objectivist-land. We are libertarians &#8212; we believe in the power of profit, nothing more, nothing less. All else is inconsequential. Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.</p>
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		<title>By: sodapop</title>
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		<dc:creator>sodapop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6 lives for the satisfaction of millions is a small price. Call me insensitive if you want but we freak out about death and injury way too easily.  Maybe these climbers just suck at their job requirements and Darwin just gave them the smack down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6 lives for the satisfaction of millions is a small price. Call me insensitive if you want but we freak out about death and injury way too easily.  Maybe these climbers just suck at their job requirements and Darwin just gave them the smack down.</p>
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		<title>By: Philburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;@3, the math is actually pretty simple: 6 deaths in 5 weeks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, thanks Erick. I&#039;m sure that explains everything. No need to dig deeper into the story. You just nailed it! Yep, here comes that blogging Pulitzer. 

AT&amp;T is sooo guilty here. Thank god you don&#039;t have to adhere to those pesky journalistic codes anymore. Otherwise you would have had to show some real evidence. And we just don&#039;t have time for that these days with your heightened posting schedule.

Hmmmm.... Hey, wait a minute! It&#039;s Arrington is just like AT&amp;T. He&#039;s got you posting so many stories these days that you don&#039;t have time to write real stories anymore! It&#039;s like &lt;b&gt;you&#039;ve fallen off the tower of journalism&lt;/b&gt;. Oh crap, it&#039;s the 6th time you&#039;ve used a question mark in your headlines in 5 weeks! Man Arrington is sooo guilty here. It&#039;s all his fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>@3, the math is actually pretty simple: 6 deaths in 5 weeks.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, thanks Erick. I&#8217;m sure that explains everything. No need to dig deeper into the story. You just nailed it! Yep, here comes that blogging Pulitzer. </p>
<p>AT&amp;T is sooo guilty here. Thank god you don&#8217;t have to adhere to those pesky journalistic codes anymore. Otherwise you would have had to show some real evidence. And we just don&#8217;t have time for that these days with your heightened posting schedule.</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;. Hey, wait a minute! It&#8217;s Arrington is just like AT&amp;T. He&#8217;s got you posting so many stories these days that you don&#8217;t have time to write real stories anymore! It&#8217;s like <b>you&#8217;ve fallen off the tower of journalism</b>. Oh crap, it&#8217;s the 6th time you&#8217;ve used a question mark in your headlines in 5 weeks! Man Arrington is sooo guilty here. It&#8217;s all his fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most likely just a coincidence, but we like to speculate don&#039;t we? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most likely just a coincidence, but we like to speculate don&#8217;t we? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pandrogas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandrogas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any official statements or testimonies on what the workers were doing when they fell or if they were in bad weather, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any official statements or testimonies on what the workers were doing when they fell or if they were in bad weather, etc?</p>
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