Comments on: Identity 2.0 Startup Sxips Into the Deadpool http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:53:39 -0800 hourly 1 By: What is the future of online identity? | Ninh Nguyen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2559008 What is the future of online identity? | Ninh Nguyen Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:25:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2559008 [...] 2.0 keynote of Dick - CEO of Sxip Identity although I had known before that Erick from Techcrunch threw **** to Dick’s face. But not everything around Dick is ****. I agree with him in some points. [...] [...] 2.0 keynote of Dick – CEO of Sxip Identity although I had known before that Erick from Techcrunch threw **** to Dick’s face. But not everything around Dick is ****. I agree with him in some points. [...]

]]> By: The best pitch presentation around « Oded Ran http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2550766 The best pitch presentation around « Oded Ran Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:25:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2550766 [...] April 21, 2007 by odedran I was a bit doubtful at first when I read Vecosys‘ post on “THE best presentation”, but after watching it I do agree.   It is the best pitch I have ever seen, and definitely something worth learning from.   You can see it at http://identity20.com/media/OSCON2005/     16-Nov-2007 Update: Dick Hardt/Sxip mentions at the end of his presentation that he borrowed from Lawrence Lessig, a professor at Stanford Law School.  You can see Lessig’s original presentaton here: http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/free.html. 28-May-2008 Update: Sxip shut down.  Shame. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/ [...] [...] April 21, 2007 by odedran I was a bit doubtful at first when I read Vecosys‘ post on “THE best presentation”, but after watching it I do agree.   It is the best pitch I have ever seen, and definitely something worth learning from.   You can see it at http://identity...edia/OSCON2005/     16-Nov-2007 Update: Dick Hardt/Sxip mentions at the end of his presentation that he borrowed from Lawrence Lessig, a professor at Stanford Law School.  You can see Lessig’s original presentaton here: http://randomfo...essig/free.html. 28-May-2008 Update: Sxip shut down.  Shame. http://www.tech...o-the-deadpool/ [...]

]]> By: Watch a Dick give a great presentation | Trevin Chow http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2512022 Watch a Dick give a great presentation | Trevin Chow Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:51:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2512022 [...] for a second that Sxip went bankrupt back in July, and that he got sued over it.  Check him out in this [...] [...] for a second that Sxip went bankrupt back in July, and that he got sued over it.  Check him out in this [...]

]]> By: العاب كمبيوتر http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2382001 العاب كمبيوتر Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:29:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2382001 And for those using-- or about to use-- Debian, since the Movable Type package is new, it's not in the Stable distribution, which is named Etch. Instead, you need to install or upgrade to the Testing distribution of Debian, named Lenny. I'm already using Lenny in one of my desktop installs, where it happens to work better than Etch, but my Debian server still runs with Etch, and I'm loathe to change that. And for those using– or about to use– Debian, since the Movable Type package is new, it’s not in the Stable distribution, which is named Etch. Instead, you need to install or upgrade to the Testing distribution of Debian, named Lenny. I’m already using Lenny in one of my desktop installs, where it happens to work better than Etch, but my Debian server still runs with Etch, and I’m loathe to change that.

]]> By: Allan Sabo http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2334546 Allan Sabo Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2334546 @mogilny You are correct, spamming is the worst kind of internet marketing, which is exactly why I do NOT do it, and limit myself to a respectful signature line as noted below. Thank you for pointing that out. Allan Sabo Alti Success Strategies Experts at Integrating Social Media and Internet Marketing ____________________________________________ Follow me at www.twitter.com/mediamanx to get tips, tools, thoughts & industry banter @mogilny You are correct, spamming is the worst kind of internet marketing, which is exactly why I do NOT do it, and limit myself to a respectful signature line as noted below. Thank you for pointing that out.

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]]> By: DSHill http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2331587 DSHill Tue, 27 May 2008 20:09:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2331587 50. Erick Schonfeld May 22nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm I’m sorry, but in my book, an insolvent company being reorganized is a failure. -------------------- Erik, did you know GE declared insolvency somewhere in the early part of the 1900s? You comment above is an opinion, but history has shown quite the opposite. Insolvency is essentially an inability to pay creditors, including debt holders. It's typically a cash flow squeeze. This is why many companies have revolving credit facilities to manage their day-to-day cash needs. Many companies that find themselves in an insolvent situation, emerge energized and restored. Airlines are a relavent example. One last misconception is that insolvency is a b/s problem. It is not. It is about insufficient cash flow. Straight facts make for better reading. 50. Erick Schonfeld

May 22nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm

I’m sorry, but in my book, an insolvent company being reorganized is a failure.

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Erik,

did you know GE declared insolvency somewhere in the early part of the 1900s? You comment above is an opinion, but history has shown quite the opposite. Insolvency is essentially an inability to pay creditors, including debt holders. It’s typically a cash flow squeeze. This is why many companies have revolving credit facilities to manage their day-to-day cash needs. Many companies that find themselves in an insolvent situation, emerge energized and restored. Airlines are a relavent example.

One last misconception is that insolvency is a b/s problem. It is not. It is about insufficient cash flow.

Straight facts make for better reading.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2329903 Anonymous Tue, 27 May 2008 04:35:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2329903 A company with a revolving door of top calibre management (Paulin, John, Chuck, etc.) was not a good sign over the past few years. Some good names came and went after relatively short stints at Sxip. Something was obviously very wrong management-wise at Sxip to suffer such a high turnover. I would assume if investors were betting on Dick alone, they were blind and deserved to lose their investment. It takes a stable, multi-talented management team to execute. Sorry Dick, a team-of-one just doesn't cut it in the new management age. A company with a revolving door of top calibre management (Paulin, John, Chuck, etc.) was not a good sign over the past few years. Some good names came and went after relatively short stints at Sxip. Something was obviously very wrong management-wise at Sxip to suffer such a high turnover. I would assume if investors were betting on Dick alone, they were blind and deserved to lose their investment. It takes a stable, multi-talented management team to execute. Sorry Dick, a team-of-one just doesn’t cut it in the new management age.

]]> By: John Smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2329141 John Smith Mon, 26 May 2008 21:04:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2329141 He said earlier it had fallen victim to the economic problems and not the site stated that satisfy customers through the old crew management. Anhanua I think the media blackout, which hide behind a lot of fake facts<a href="http://q-vb.com" rel="nofollow">.</a>Convey to you directly from the site Sxip is pleased to announce that TriCipher, Inc. has acquired Sxip User Manager. Sxip User Manager is a newly-released tool that allows administrators to provision and manage users in both Salesforce and Google Apps Premier from a single screen while enabling users to authenticate to both with the same username and password. After the sale of Sxip Access in February<a href="http://q-vb.com" rel="nofollow">.</a> the sale of Sxip User Manager is the final step allowing Sxip to focus on consumer solutions. The service will provide a complement to TriCipher's own identity management solutions. This was stated at the site sxip script and I prepared him to you here Tribal assurances of my highest consideration and thank you He said earlier it had fallen victim to the economic problems and not the site stated that satisfy customers through the old crew management. Anhanua I think the media blackout, which hide behind a lot of fake facts.Convey to you directly from the site Sxip is pleased to announce that TriCipher, Inc. has acquired Sxip User Manager. Sxip User Manager is a newly-released tool that allows administrators to provision and manage users in both Salesforce and Google Apps Premier from a single screen while enabling users to authenticate to both with the same username and password. After the sale of Sxip Access in February. the sale of Sxip User Manager is the final step allowing Sxip to focus on consumer solutions. The service will provide a complement to TriCipher’s own identity management solutions.
This was stated at the site sxip script and I prepared him to you here
Tribal assurances of my highest consideration
and thank you

]]> By: Beep Beep Beep! http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2326386 Beep Beep Beep! Sun, 25 May 2008 23:06:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2326386 My bullshit detector just went off. I think Dick is a smooth talking crook. If I had invested in his company, aside from feeling like a fool, I'd hold his nuts hostage until I got my money back. Just my two cents. My bullshit detector just went off. I think Dick is a smooth talking crook. If I had invested in his company, aside from feeling like a fool, I’d hold his nuts hostage until I got my money back.

Just my two cents.

]]> By: Jim Dorey http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2322356 Jim Dorey Fri, 23 May 2008 18:55:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2322356 Dick Hardt is a huge asset to the Vancouver and world IT industry. Having worked for Dick once directly (ActiveState) and indirectly (he was a board member for XML Global) I know him personally and professionally. He is a motivated and intelligent man with vision. TechCrunch would do well to fully investigate legal matters on both sides before making a localized issue a worldwide one. Dick Hardt is a huge asset to the Vancouver and world IT industry. Having worked for Dick once directly (ActiveState) and indirectly (he was a board member for XML Global) I know him personally and professionally.

He is a motivated and intelligent man with vision. TechCrunch would do well to fully investigate legal matters on both sides before making a localized issue a worldwide one.

]]> By: John Derby http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2322075 John Derby Fri, 23 May 2008 16:51:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2322075 Before you judge Dick, take a look at the parties on the other side of the lawsuit. Ask how successful they have been as startup guys. Ask what their motivations might have been in launching the lawsuit. Before you judge Dick, take a look at the parties on the other side of the lawsuit. Ask how successful they have been as startup guys. Ask what their motivations might have been in launching the lawsuit.

]]> By: derek_ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2321982 derek_ Fri, 23 May 2008 16:04:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2321982 Sxip isn't a good name. Not catchy enough. Obviously there's more to business than this, but this is really important. Szip? Sixip? Then you find out it's Skip, which makes no sense at all. Sxip isn’t a good name. Not catchy enough. Obviously there’s more to business than this, but this is really important. Szip? Sixip? Then you find out it’s Skip, which makes no sense at all.

]]> By: Harry Wang http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2321878 Harry Wang Fri, 23 May 2008 15:16:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2321878 1000 slide PP deck? What a dick. Harry "be concise mothafudga" Wang 1000 slide PP deck? What a dick.

Harry “be concise mothafudga” Wang

]]> By: Markus http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2321435 Markus Fri, 23 May 2008 11:31:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2321435 Interesting that in his legal filing Dick does not address the accusation that the investors were never even told about the second company. Too early to judge but he may be in the clear from a legal standpoint. But, if he did not inform the investors about this 'arrangement' then I think his credibility will be shot. My $0.02 (Canadian) Interesting that in his legal filing Dick does not address the accusation that the investors were never even told about the second company.

Too early to judge but he may be in the clear from a legal standpoint. But, if he did not inform the investors about this ‘arrangement’ then I think his credibility will be shot.

My $0.02 (Canadian)

]]> By: Unsophisticated Investor http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320808 Unsophisticated Investor Fri, 23 May 2008 06:23:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320808 I would assume that even the "more sophisticated" investors Dick mentions should be somewhat troubled by the lack of personal integrity displayed by skimming off the assets in one company while sticking the debts in another that gets jettisoned. Out of interest: Which company do past employees stock options come from? I would assume that even the “more sophisticated” investors Dick mentions should be somewhat troubled by the lack of personal integrity displayed by skimming off the assets in one company while sticking the debts in another that gets jettisoned.

Out of interest: Which company do past employees stock options come from?

]]> By: Mike Sax http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320782 Mike Sax Fri, 23 May 2008 06:05:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320782 TechCrunch is turning into the National Enquirer for Computer Nerds: find a little dirt, spice it up a bit, add a few insults, insert a juvenile joke or two, and you're done. TechCrunch is turning into the National Enquirer for Computer Nerds: find a little dirt, spice it up a bit, add a few insults, insert a juvenile joke or two, and you’re done.

]]> By: Chris Turra http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320688 Chris Turra Fri, 23 May 2008 05:11:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320688 being part of the Sxip Access acquisition to Ping Identity and directly involved in Sxip User Manager purchased by TriCipher i want to step up and tell you Sxip had and continues to have a "real business." throughout Dick has been honest and upfront about all matters of his business to employees *and* investors alike. this topic seems a bit like the game telephone to me: the longer the story is circulated, the more convoluted and further from truth it gets. Erick, before writing this article, i really think you should have had a discussion with Dick. being part of the Sxip Access acquisition to Ping Identity and directly involved in Sxip User Manager purchased by TriCipher i want to step up and tell you Sxip had and continues to have a “real business.” throughout Dick has been honest and upfront about all matters of his business to employees *and* investors alike.

this topic seems a bit like the game telephone to me: the longer the story is circulated, the more convoluted and further from truth it gets. Erick, before writing this article, i really think you should have had a discussion with Dick.

]]> By: Peter http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320654 Peter Fri, 23 May 2008 04:52:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320654 Has someone done a study of the value - or, 'failability' - of a startup's name? Maybe, a 'name drag coefficient'? I think the Skipspsxsisiitwhatever name got a good once-over the last time it appeared in this place, but I really do wonder - how much more likely is your company to fail because of the terrible name you assigned it? I almost had a heart attack when I heard that OpenAds renamed itself OpenX after......well, i don't know after what, but it seems they want to fail hard, too. Has someone done a study of the value – or, ‘failability’ – of a startup’s name?

Maybe, a ‘name drag coefficient’?

I think the Skipspsxsisiitwhatever name got a good once-over the last time it appeared in this place, but I really do wonder – how much more likely is your company to fail because of the terrible name you assigned it?

I almost had a heart attack when I heard that OpenAds renamed itself OpenX after……well, i don’t know after what, but it seems they want to fail hard, too.

]]> By: Roebot http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320641 Roebot Fri, 23 May 2008 04:43:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320641 Typical TechCrunch, as I've said many times before: TechCrunch is the FOX news of the software industry. Sensationalistic, ignorant, sound bytes filled with biased conjecture. I'm only here b/c I saw Dick's Twitter and wondered what was going on. Unsubscribe. Typical TechCrunch, as I’ve said many times before: TechCrunch is the FOX news of the software industry. Sensationalistic, ignorant, sound bytes filled with biased conjecture. I’m only here b/c I saw Dick’s Twitter and wondered what was going on.

Unsubscribe.

]]> By: Erick Schonfeld http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320557 Erick Schonfeld Fri, 23 May 2008 03:56:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320557 I've updated the post with Hardt's response. Even though this was more of a commentary on my part, rather than original reporting, I still should have contacted him before I put it up. The issue here is not Hardt and whether he's smart (he is, I've met him) or had successes in the past (he has). The issue addressed here is simply Sxip and its ugly unraveling. I'm sorry, but in my book, an insolvent company being reorganized is a failure. Can anything good come of this failure? Of course, it can. Read Hardt's response to find out what that may be. I’ve updated the post with Hardt’s response. Even though this was more of a commentary on my part, rather than original reporting, I still should have contacted him before I put it up.

The issue here is not Hardt and whether he’s smart (he is, I’ve met him) or had successes in the past (he has). The issue addressed here is simply Sxip and its ugly unraveling.

I’m sorry, but in my book, an insolvent company being reorganized is a failure.

Can anything good come of this failure? Of course, it can. Read Hardt’s response to find out what that may be.

]]> By: Sasha Cohen http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320534 Sasha Cohen Fri, 23 May 2008 03:43:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320534 Hi there...Man i just love your blog, keep the cool posts comin..holy Thursday . <a>Sasha Cohen</a> Hi there…Man i just love your blog, keep the cool posts comin..holy Thursday . Sasha Cohen

]]> By: Tyler Wright http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320409 Tyler Wright Fri, 23 May 2008 02:19:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320409 Dick built and sold a company for like $27M in 02, so I wouldn't write him off. He's also a super genuine and cool guy on a personal level. Dick built and sold a company for like $27M in 02, so I wouldn’t write him off.

He’s also a super genuine and cool guy on a personal level.

]]> By: The Fake Dick Hardt http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320320 The Fake Dick Hardt Fri, 23 May 2008 01:19:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320320 I too find the post a bit harsh, based on half-evidences, and wagger-style. @Erick : leave that kind of TC journalism to Mike. I truly enjoy both your styles (good cop, bad cop, ya know). But as much we enjoy Mike's badass banter, we have come to expect the duly researched reporting from you. Now you're absolved, because even great people have their momentary downfall, and this applies to Erick as well as to Dick. Dick is an undisputed leader in trying to solve the online identity riddle ; one of the most present issues on the net, where Sxip is further than Google, or Yahoo, or M$. Not being acquired speaks more of the ineptness of the bus (un)dev guys at those shops, than on the true merits of Sxip. Unfortunately for those of us with higher ideals, it s easier to build a business out of wearing masks (e.g. the carnival of bragster.com) than out of letting those masks down (currently, anyone on the net can be a dog, or a dick, as pointed by #40). Dick has cleverly managed to save some of his valuable assets, and I m sure when Identity is solved, he will be part of it. (PS: maybe I ve inhaled too much Gillmor dope, if find my own writing under influence... ;-) I too find the post a bit harsh, based on half-evidences, and wagger-style.

@Erick : leave that kind of TC journalism to Mike. I truly enjoy both your styles (good cop, bad cop, ya know). But as much we enjoy Mike’s badass banter, we have come to expect the duly researched reporting from you.

Now you’re absolved, because even great people have their momentary downfall, and this applies to Erick as well as to Dick.

Dick is an undisputed leader in trying to solve the online identity riddle ; one of the most present issues on the net, where Sxip is further than Google, or Yahoo, or M$. Not being acquired speaks more of the ineptness of the bus (un)dev guys at those shops, than on the true merits of Sxip.
Unfortunately for those of us with higher ideals, it s easier to build a business out of wearing masks (e.g. the carnival of bragster.com) than out of letting those masks down (currently, anyone on the net can be a dog, or a dick, as pointed by #40).

Dick has cleverly managed to save some of his valuable assets, and I m sure when Identity is solved, he will be part of it.

(PS: maybe I ve inhaled too much Gillmor dope, if find my own writing under influence… ;-)

]]> By: Phil Dewey http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2320297 Phil Dewey Fri, 23 May 2008 01:05:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320297 "Just because someone can give a good pitch, does not mean they can build a real company." No truer words have ever been writ. In fact fully half the executives in corporate America have made careers of doing exactly this... “Just because someone can give a good pitch, does not mean they can build a real company.”

No truer words have ever been writ. In fact fully half the executives in corporate America have made careers of doing exactly this…

]]> By: Randal L. Schwartz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-2320267 Randal L. Schwartz Fri, 23 May 2008 00:48:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/identity-20-startup-sxips-into-the-deadpool/#comment-2320267 I will vouch for Dick Hardt being an upstanding businessman. His work at ActiveState to help promote Perl on the "other" platform was done in a way that both promoted open source and yet provided a business model to help pay for the development effort, at a time that the Perl community really needed it. I also had the opportunity to investigate Dick's business dealings during that period fairly thoroughly in preparation for some very significant relationships between my company and his, and found nothing out of the ordinary. I trusted him at his word then, and I would find no reason to distrust him today. I will vouch for Dick Hardt being an upstanding businessman. His work at ActiveState to help promote Perl on the “other” platform was done in a way that both promoted open source and yet provided a business model to help pay for the development effort, at a time that the Perl community really needed it. I also had the opportunity to investigate Dick’s business dealings during that period fairly thoroughly in preparation for some very significant relationships between my company and his, and found nothing out of the ordinary. I trusted him at his word then, and I would find no reason to distrust him today.

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