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	<title>Comments on: FlipTrack Changes Name, Takes Flash Objects Mobile</title>
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		<title>By: Mega Moovee &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Moblyng Lets You Build Slideshows On Your iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2511436</link>
		<dc:creator>Mega Moovee &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Moblyng Lets You Build Slideshows On Your iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the company formerly known as FlipTrack that is focused on taking Flash-based slideshows to mobile platforms, has released an application [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Moblyng Lets You Build Slideshows On Your iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2511390</link>
		<dc:creator>Moblyng Lets You Build Slideshows On Your iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the company formerly known as FlipTrack that is focused on taking Flash-based slideshows to mobile platforms, has released an application [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NickeyD</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2317917</link>
		<dc:creator>NickeyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 07:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused. So what they&#039;re actually trying to develope is a webcrawler for flash sites ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused. So what they&#8217;re actually trying to develope is a webcrawler for flash sites ?</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; FlipTrackが「Moblyng」に改称、携帯でFlashが楽しめるサービス公開</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2316565</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; FlipTrackが「Moblyng」に改称、携帯でFlashが楽しめるサービス公開</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: puzzled</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2316304</link>
		<dc:creator>puzzled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>without formal api&#039;s to extract data from the source website, it&#039;ll be almost impossible for them to keep up with the plethora of changes that will happen over time, as their regular expressions and screen scrapes become obsolete.

even if they do have 8m in funding, their solution is limited by the fact that there is are no standards that are being used, and because not all flash content is capable of being decompiled, especially since content being loaded from within the flash file may not be embedded, but may be streamed from other servers, which is usually the case.

essentially they are extracting the source xml path of the slideshow or youtube video or mp3 slideshow that is being dynamically generated by the server they are leeching from, and then rebuilding something on the fly.

there&#039;s still one problem with this: the iphone only supports video and audio audio playback in independent full screen mode from inside safari, so even if they managed to scrape together a table of contents of hyperlinks of mp3s from some mp3 playlist or video playlist, they are still essentially doing what everyone has done to date, for free - point a simple hyperlink at an mp3 file.

can you imagine how many rules and parsing scenarios they&#039;ll have to keep up with to integrate with the top 10 or 20 sites on the internet? too many.

i guess they&#039;ll spend 8m on paying over glorified developers to do something any perl or php programmer can do with a simple http proxy like charles, and how do you make money, injecting video or image ads into other peoples content when you recompile it? 

sounds like a bunch of pissed off users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>without formal api&#8217;s to extract data from the source website, it&#8217;ll be almost impossible for them to keep up with the plethora of changes that will happen over time, as their regular expressions and screen scrapes become obsolete.</p>
<p>even if they do have 8m in funding, their solution is limited by the fact that there is are no standards that are being used, and because not all flash content is capable of being decompiled, especially since content being loaded from within the flash file may not be embedded, but may be streamed from other servers, which is usually the case.</p>
<p>essentially they are extracting the source xml path of the slideshow or youtube video or mp3 slideshow that is being dynamically generated by the server they are leeching from, and then rebuilding something on the fly.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s still one problem with this: the iphone only supports video and audio audio playback in independent full screen mode from inside safari, so even if they managed to scrape together a table of contents of hyperlinks of mp3s from some mp3 playlist or video playlist, they are still essentially doing what everyone has done to date, for free &#8211; point a simple hyperlink at an mp3 file.</p>
<p>can you imagine how many rules and parsing scenarios they&#8217;ll have to keep up with to integrate with the top 10 or 20 sites on the internet? too many.</p>
<p>i guess they&#8217;ll spend 8m on paying over glorified developers to do something any perl or php programmer can do with a simple http proxy like charles, and how do you make money, injecting video or image ads into other peoples content when you recompile it? </p>
<p>sounds like a bunch of pissed off users.</p>
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		<title>By: seeb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2316046</link>
		<dc:creator>seeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how the fuck did they get so much funding????</description>
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		<title>By: BlogReader</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2315978</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how this company got funded -- this (stripping out photos from flash slideshows) is a simple app that can easily be replicated.  Also I&#039;m not sure if targeting old phones is a blockbuster market.  Plus Adobe could come out with a version of their software that does something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how this company got funded &#8212; this (stripping out photos from flash slideshows) is a simple app that can easily be replicated.  Also I&#8217;m not sure if targeting old phones is a blockbuster market.  Plus Adobe could come out with a version of their software that does something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaks</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2315775</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is typo in the site url, instead of &quot;http://www.moblyng.com&quot; it is typed as &quot;http://www.mobylng.com&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is typo in the site url, instead of &#8220;http://www.moblyng.com&#8221; it is typed as &#8220;http://www.mobylng.com&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paged mobile</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/21/fliptrack-changes-name-takes-flash-objects-mobile/comment-page-1/#comment-2315623</link>
		<dc:creator>Paged mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the company has reinvented itself: It is now Moblyng, a site dedicated to bringing the embedded flash widgets on social networks to mobile devices.&quot;

It seems that there is a wrong link in this part of the article, the link refers to mobylng.com, but it should be moblyng.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the company has reinvented itself: It is now Moblyng, a site dedicated to bringing the embedded flash widgets on social networks to mobile devices.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems that there is a wrong link in this part of the article, the link refers to mobylng.com, but it should be moblyng.com.</p>
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