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By: Data Portability | Blogs @ Northern Light

Data Portability | Blogs @ Northern Light — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:20 +0000

[...] that the days of getting you to spend all of your time inside their walled gardens are over,” says TechCrunch, “So they go for the next best thing, trying to at least, “maintain as much data about [...]

By: MySpace gives in to Facebook by redesigning for a second chance | wannabeMogul.com

Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:02:57 +0000

[...] It was time for MySpace to get more organized, end the chaos and admit that they could do some things that Facebook showed users wanted. Otherwise, Facebook was going to keep snatching everyone up and not giving their data back. [...]

By: The Future Of Social Isn’t Content Spewing (I Hope)

The Future Of Social Isn’t Content Spewing (I Hope) — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:28:46 +0000

[...] our content is all of the place on the Internet. And it’s unlikely the big guys are going to do the right things for the community without being significant pressure. This isn’t necessarily sexy stuff, but [...]

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:08:04 +0000

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By: Facebook To Open Source Facebook Platform

Facebook To Open Source Facebook Platform — Tue, 27 May 2008 04:19:01 +0000

[...] open source platform, run the the Open Social Foundation. Facebook has been looking more and more like a walled garden of late, and Google is clearly out maneuvering them with their recent product launches. [...]

By: Facebook Platform, One Year Later

Facebook Platform, One Year Later — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:08:43 +0000

[...] thing to remember is that Facebook Platform is, in the end, all about Facebook. It keeps your data locked up tight under the guise of privacy concerns. What users really want (or what they should want) is to [...]

By: Dana Gardner’s BriefingsDirect mobile edition

Dana Gardner’s BriefingsDirect mobile edition — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:22:34 +0000

[...] Talk is bubbling up across the blogosphere, Gillmor Gang and Techmeme daily lately about social graph information and data. This may be among the most important discussions and topics of our time. How the “social mesh” works out now will affect our lives and businesses for a long time. It may even impact how we define what “me” is online. We really need to get it right, ASAP. [...]

By: Electric Currents - The value of networks

Electric Currents - The value of networks — Tue, 20 May 2008 12:28:05 +0000

[...] as their real product (they are, after all ‘advertising supported’). Mike Arrington at Techchrunch, has a good opinion piece about the questions revolving around Data Portability. Mostly he is [...]

By: My data and having it my way « Ungeek DaPo

My data and having it my way « Ungeek DaPo — Mon, 19 May 2008 19:51:52 +0000

[...] and Scoble duked it out here Data Portability: It’s The New Walled Garden and later on in the Gillmore Gang conference call. I have also seen similar mulitiple discussions [...]

By: WinExtra » The tech blogosphere is a closed circle feeding on itself

WinExtra » The tech blogosphere is a closed circle feeding on itself — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:40:50 +0000

[...] Sure things like blogs and social networks might have old media running scared but even as Michael Arrington pointed out on TechCrunch this Data Portability is just a whole new set of walled [...]

By: Une Semaine sur le Web N°2 | pimp my code

Une Semaine sur le Web N°2 | pimp my code — Mon, 19 May 2008 13:31:40 +0000

[...] c’est donc LE sujet du moment et on risque d’en entendre parler pendant un moment http://www.techcrunch.com/2008.....led-garden. L’idéal à mon avis serait que tout le monde se réunisse derrière le Data Portability [...]

By: Wie Google’s Friend Connect funktioniert « c/o operative

Wie Google’s Friend Connect funktioniert « c/o operative — Mon, 19 May 2008 08:43:47 +0000

[...] Wechsel problemlos mitnehmen zu können (=Data Portability). Experten wie Marc Canter, Chris Saad, Michael Arrington oder Dare Obasanjo beweifeln allerdings, dass die großen Player es wirklich ernst damit [...]

By: What Data Portability Means for Business | Jacob Madison

What Data Portability Means for Business | Jacob Madison — Mon, 19 May 2008 07:05:34 +0000

[...] Google Friend Connect and go it alone with their own service. Mike Arrington accurately argues that data portability is the new walled garden. The current race for social networks is to open up their platforms so that they become the [...]

By: All sites will be social sites

All sites will be social sites — Mon, 19 May 2008 05:04:58 +0000

[...] There have been some impressive announcements to enable frictionless social grease - Google, MySpace, and Facebook all agree it’s the future - and of course the expected fights. [...]

By: Facebook’s Friends Data Has Already Left the Barn - biginfo.org

Facebook’s Friends Data Has Already Left the Barn - biginfo.org — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:52:07 +0000

[...] (including friends lists) from other sites, except that what they are really trying to do is erect new walled gardens by positioning themselves as the primary repository of that personal and social data. This is [...]

By: Battle Over Data Ownership on Gillmor Gang - biginfo.org

Battle Over Data Ownership on Gillmor Gang - biginfo.org — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:49:33 +0000

[...] Politics, finance Epic Gillmor Gang today. Everyone went in with guns blazing over the data portability/ownership debate that has spilled out over the Facebook/Google scuffle. DataPortability founder Chris Saad was also [...]

By: poso.dk - om portable sociale netværk » Data Portability: It’s The New Walled Garden

Sun, 18 May 2008 15:03:19 +0000

[...] Data Portability: It’s The New Walled Garden - [...]

By: alex

alex — Sun, 18 May 2008 15:02:31 +0000

only read about half the posts, hope i’m not being redundant, but…

ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS TO INFORMATION OR MEDIA ONCE IT HITS THE INTERNET HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THE DEBATE.

look at metallica vs. radiohead in making music accessible. metallica finally woke up to the fact that peeps were going to let music loose all over the internet, and they decided to work within the new system rather than against it. now, the battle just happens to be hitting the average joe.

while i do understand arrington’s desire for friends not to use the email address in certain ways, he’s gotta know this by now: he’s going to lose. he will never, ever be able to dictate a moral code for the internet using public and have everyone follow it. time to start embracing the alternative and figuring out how best to work with it.

By: bavb

bavb — Sun, 18 May 2008 12:07:24 +0000

“But all the roots of all our problems go back to the fact that THEY are telling ME what I can do with MY data. Its a fundamental right we own - not them”

Marc Canter, 5/12/2008

By: Facebook’s Friends Data Has Already Left the Barn

Facebook’s Friends Data Has Already Left the Barn — Sun, 18 May 2008 04:39:53 +0000

By: Google och Facebook i luven på varandra. Vem skall kontrollerar din data? | Bloggtidningen

Sun, 18 May 2008 00:56:48 +0000

[...] TechCrunch berättar att Facebook och Google råkat i luven på varandra. [...]

By: Dynamic Privacy, protection of ‘my data’, Friend Connect | what is all the fuss about? « The Bankwatch

Sat, 17 May 2008 22:28:11 +0000

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By: Andrew Deal

Andrew Deal — Sat, 17 May 2008 19:48:56 +0000

This argument will get played out all over again with cell phones, caller IDs and text message spam. Just you watch. I’ll just copy this whole page, do a mass replace of words and help those in the mobile community settle the issue quicker. The problem is, that won’t work, because, although this appears to be an argument of principle, if you change the context, there will be differrent conclusions.

Anyway, regarding this from Scoble:
> 1. Does Facebook have any rights to keep the stuff you entered on Facebook only on Facebook?

I would say they do have a right, and actually a duty to do so. They bear a liability when they build in user configurable privacy controls, to deliver on the control mechanisms. Of course they can’t do that when the data leaves their environment.

Now, that is not to say it would not serve their users and ultimately themselves to make narrow exceptions. Portability of the data of the FIRST PERSON only is a slam dunk. If I choose to have a feed turned on for my first level data to pipe into other applications, then I am served, and Facebook will be as well. If they do this well, they will expand their social authority by being the central repository for my contact info that is updated from all my other identities. Not a bad idea.

This is really all about them being the source instead of Google, and I don’t blame Facebook for competing with Google in this way. It would be unilateral disarmament.

By: things I read yesterday … 05/17/2008 « The Bankwatch

things I read yesterday … 05/17/2008 « The Bankwatch — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:32:14 +0000

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By: SeanColombo.com » Pitt talk was fun

SeanColombo.com » Pitt talk was fun — Sat, 17 May 2008 13:32:40 +0000

[...] most of the technical press is calling them on it. Everyone from TechCrunch to David Recordon (of OpenId fame) is telling it like it [...]