Comments on: Poor Children Of The World No Longer Will Have To Struggle With Linux http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:06:49 -0800 hourly 1 By: haven http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-2647322 haven Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:36:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2647322 you r so mean to children hoe biotch you r so mean to children hoe biotch

]]> By: haven http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-2647321 haven Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:35:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2647321 you suck you suck

]]> By: haven http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2647320 haven Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:33:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2647320 i feel so sorry for them i feel so sorry for them

]]> By: mark http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2326693 mark Mon, 26 May 2008 02:05:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2326693 Does anyone find it ironic that back in March of 2006 Gates was making fun of the OLPC project, and now they're putting money into it? Myfavorite coverage was Ze Frank's (about 1:55 into the video): http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/03/031706.html Does anyone find it ironic that back in March of 2006 Gates was making fun of the OLPC project, and now they’re putting money into it? Myfavorite coverage was Ze Frank’s (about 1:55 into the video): http://www.zefr.../03/031706.html

]]> By: Helpedia - Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2309479 Helpedia - Blog Mon, 19 May 2008 17:34:12 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2309479 <strong>Helpedia-News vom 9.-19. Mai 2008...</strong> Hier das Spannendste, was wir in den letzten Tagen im Internet von und über den gemeinnützigen Sektor gefunden haben (tagesaktuelle Links gibt’s rechts in der Sidebar): Egotrips ins Elend Florian Töpfl schreibt im Süddeutsche Zeitung Magazin, das... Helpedia-News vom 9.-19. Mai 2008…

Hier das Spannendste, was wir in den letzten Tagen im Internet von und über den gemeinnützigen Sektor gefunden haben (tagesaktuelle Links gibt’s rechts in der Sidebar):
Egotrips ins Elend
Florian Töpfl schreibt im Süddeutsche Zeitung Magazin, das…

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2307782 Ryan Mon, 19 May 2008 02:44:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2307782 "On the upside, though, the pain of having to deal with Windows crashes may make some of these kids excellent technical support people over time." Sad as it may be, there is a valid point here. “On the upside, though, the pain of having to deal with Windows crashes may make some of these kids excellent technical support people over time.”

Sad as it may be, there is a valid point here.

]]> By: Shakib http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2305378 Shakib Sun, 18 May 2008 06:07:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2305378 Why should anybody even use Windows? With Open Office 2.4 I do not see any reason (other than lame-a$$ gaming purpose) why anyone would be interested to pay for an OS to begin with! Why should anybody even use Windows? With Open Office 2.4 I do not see any reason (other than lame-a$$ gaming purpose) why anyone would be interested to pay for an OS to begin with!

]]> By:   One Laptop Per Child saldrá con Windows XP preinstalado by El Cofrecito http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2304554   One Laptop Per Child saldrá con Windows XP preinstalado by El Cofrecito Sat, 17 May 2008 21:35:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2304554 [...] Vía NYTimes y TechCrunch [...] [...] Vía NYTimes y TechCrunch [...]

]]> By: Simon http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2304545 Simon Sat, 17 May 2008 21:29:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2304545 Comparing Windows and Linux in this way does not make sense -- either compare the Windows kernel and Linux, or Windows and Sugar. But comparing a platform against a core OS is quite pointless. The long text lives at http://www.hogyros.de/?q=node/390 , but I felt it was too long to post here. Comparing Windows and Linux in this way does not make sense — either compare the Windows kernel and Linux, or Windows and Sugar. But comparing a platform against a core OS is quite pointless.

The long text lives at http://www.hogy....de/?q=node/390 , but I felt it was too long to post here.

]]> By: E-Learning-Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2302004 E-Learning-Blog Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2302004 <strong>Microsoft gerettet, Bildungsprojekt verloren...</strong> Auf TechCrunch ist zu lesen: On the upside, though, the pain of having to deal with Windows crashes may make some of these kids excellent technical support people over time. They’d just get lazy with Linux being so stable all the time. Das... Microsoft gerettet, Bildungsprojekt verloren…

Auf TechCrunch ist zu lesen:

On the upside, though, the pain of having to deal with Windows crashes may make some of these kids excellent technical support people over time. They’d just get lazy with Linux being so stable all the time.

Das…

]]> By: randomwalker http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301576 randomwalker Fri, 16 May 2008 19:25:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301576 OLPC is already pretty much dead, with some of their top talent leaving; they're best ignored from this point on. OLPC is already pretty much dead, with some of their top talent leaving; they’re best ignored from this point on.

]]> By: A Little Windows On My Laptop « TLC Studio http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301506 A Little Windows On My Laptop « TLC Studio Fri, 16 May 2008 18:45:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301506 [...] Techcrunch What Windows Might Look Like On The OLPC another great idea on paper | conservativeintelligencer.com Business News Research » Poor Children Of The World No Longer Will Have To Struggle With Linux [...] [...] Techcrunch What Windows Might Look Like On The OLPC another great idea on paper | conservativeintelligencer.com Business News Research » Poor Children Of The World No Longer Will Have To Struggle With Linux [...]

]]> By: Idit http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301400 Idit Fri, 16 May 2008 17:57:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301400 Note that not everyone in the OLPC community is upset!!! Those who have been devoted to the OLPC mission, even before OLPC was established, know that it is not about the OS. It is about something very different that is much harder to achieve. My team and I truly care about the EDUCATIONAL mission and vision of OLPC: to eliminate poverty and create world peace through education -- as a human right -- by providing creative learning opportunities to the poorest children worldwide, at no cost to them, helping them be active learners, collaborative, creative and entrepreneurial, become leaders in the communities and the world at large. Therefore, we believe that constructionist learning software projects, programs and processes that are made possible with ANY LAPTOP, with ANY OS, should be made available to the bottom billion kids sooner rather than later -- to all of them -- whatever it takes to make it available for free to the kids themselves is blessed. And Nicholas Negroponte remains brave and true to his original noble mission and big vision. What's so bad about that?! Note that not everyone in the OLPC community is upset!!! Those who have been devoted to the OLPC mission, even before OLPC was established, know that it is not about the OS. It is about something very different that is much harder to achieve.

My team and I truly care about the EDUCATIONAL mission and vision of OLPC: to eliminate poverty and create world peace through education — as a human right — by providing creative learning opportunities to the poorest children worldwide, at no cost to them, helping them be active learners, collaborative, creative and entrepreneurial, become leaders in the communities and the world at large.

Therefore, we believe that constructionist learning software projects, programs and processes that are made possible with ANY LAPTOP, with ANY OS, should be made available to the bottom billion kids sooner rather than later — to all of them — whatever it takes to make it available for free to the kids themselves is blessed. And Nicholas Negroponte remains brave and true to his original noble mission and big vision. What’s so bad about that?!

]]> By: OLPC mit Win XP / Realität, Windows, OLPC, Köstlich, musik, medien, werbung, kunst / Web Adventures http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301398 OLPC mit Win XP / Realität, Windows, OLPC, Köstlich, musik, medien, werbung, kunst / Web Adventures Fri, 16 May 2008 17:57:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301398 [...] So würde der OLPC mit Windows ausschauen. Wenn das nur nicht Realität werden würde. [...] [...] So würde der OLPC mit Windows ausschauen. Wenn das nur nicht Realität werden würde. [...]

]]> By: Sejal http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301379 Sejal Fri, 16 May 2008 17:47:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301379 "On the upside, though, the pain of having to deal with Windows crashes may make some of these kids excellent technical support people over time. They’d just get lazy with Linux being so stable all the time." So Mike, what OS do you use? I hope you are not using Windows based laptops/desktops as your primary machines. The way "open source software" works is companies don't make money by selling software, but they make money by selling support. How many companies really use open source software as part of their primary development (If they do then they definately also need a team of developers to fix issues in open source software, or have to sign-up for support contracts from so called non-profit open source communities). Open-source and non-open source softwares are two different business models. I don't believe that in any near future, MAC will allow users to just buy its OS while allowing other hardware manufacturers to make money by selling machines. Infact MAC have been very tightly controlled by Apple, because they know that they can't make money of OS. I don't believe that SJ will even consider giving away few MACs at a discount so that it will benefit children/people with limited resource. It is all business decision. -Sejal “On the upside, though, the pain of having to deal with Windows crashes may make some of these kids excellent technical support people over time. They’d just get lazy with Linux being so stable all the time.”

So Mike, what OS do you use? I hope you are not using Windows based laptops/desktops as your primary machines.

The way “open source software” works is companies don’t make money by selling software, but they make money by selling support. How many companies really use open source software as part of their primary development (If they do then they definately also need a team of developers to fix issues in open source software, or have to sign-up for support contracts from so called non-profit open source communities).

Open-source and non-open source softwares are two different business models.

I don’t believe that in any near future, MAC will allow users to just buy its OS while allowing other hardware manufacturers to make money by selling machines. Infact MAC have been very tightly controlled by Apple, because they know that they can’t make money of OS. I don’t believe that SJ will even consider giving away few MACs at a discount so that it will benefit children/people with limited resource.

It is all business decision.

-Sejal

]]> By: What Windows Might Look Like On The OLPC http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301343 What Windows Might Look Like On The OLPC Fri, 16 May 2008 17:26:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301343 [...] Bob Lee creates a much better image to go with our post yesterday about One Laptop Per Child and Windows teaming up. CrunchBase Information One Laptop Per Child [...] [...] Bob Lee creates a much better image to go with our post yesterday about One Laptop Per Child and Windows teaming up. CrunchBase Information One Laptop Per Child [...]

]]> By: Jose Miguel Cansado http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301300 Jose Miguel Cansado Fri, 16 May 2008 17:03:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301300 Great comment Mike: "The last thing Microsoft wants is for anyone who’s computer literate to think that a world without Microsoft Windows is possible" Microsoft's has always behaved as a greedy monopoly, trying to perpetuate that position that enables them to charge huge licenses fees. This is one more monopolistic action, trying to keep Linux even out of these low cost laptops. Who knows, in a few years MS might still charge to the kids for MS Office licenses or for the "upgrade" to Vista... Great comment Mike: “The last thing Microsoft wants is for anyone who’s computer literate to think that a world without Microsoft Windows is possible”

Microsoft’s has always behaved as a greedy monopoly, trying to perpetuate that position that enables them to charge huge licenses fees.

This is one more monopolistic action, trying to keep Linux even out of these low cost laptops. Who knows, in a few years MS might still charge to the kids for MS Office licenses or for the “upgrade” to Vista…

]]> By: Bug http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301244 Bug Fri, 16 May 2008 16:25:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301244 Is it really so terrible to give free access to the world's dominant OS? Really? I agree with "momoy" entirely. Sure, Linux may work fine, but it just is not nearly as practical for these kids and their teachers. Common sense, Michael. Is it really so terrible to give free access to the world’s dominant OS? Really?

I agree with “momoy” entirely. Sure, Linux may work fine, but it just is not nearly as practical for these kids and their teachers. Common sense, Michael.

]]> By: Make it Simple http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301235 Make it Simple Fri, 16 May 2008 16:18:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301235 Windows VMware is best way to load Linux. Windows VMware is best way to load Linux.

]]> By: Fred Oliveira http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2301011 Fred Oliveira Fri, 16 May 2008 13:52:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2301011 Great post, Mike. Very well put (as always these days it seems). Hey, I'll pay you a visit one of these days, I'm thinking of hitting SV in the summer. Great post, Mike. Very well put (as always these days it seems). Hey, I’ll pay you a visit one of these days, I’m thinking of hitting SV in the summer.

]]> By: AdvertiseSpace http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2300933 AdvertiseSpace Fri, 16 May 2008 13:04:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2300933 I've never understood this movement. Shouldn't try to feed the poor first before giving them laptops?? I’ve never understood this movement. Shouldn’t try to feed the poor first before giving them laptops??

]]> By: Claudi http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2300906 Claudi Fri, 16 May 2008 12:50:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2300906 Open source is cool ;) ! Open source is cool ;) !

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-2300849 Jeremy Fri, 16 May 2008 12:04:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2300849 OLPC "is hoping to have a machine with dual boot options". So calm down, everyone. Something added, nothing taken away. It took until comment #18 till I saw the point I wanted to see: yes, MA, it was a funny line but cringe-making too. You could certainly read it as suggesting that tech supporting was all that OLPC users would be good for. OLPC “is hoping to have a machine with dual boot options”. So calm down, everyone. Something added, nothing taken away.

It took until comment #18 till I saw the point I wanted to see: yes, MA, it was a funny line but cringe-making too. You could certainly read it as suggesting that tech supporting was all that OLPC users would be good for.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-2300698 Chris Fri, 16 May 2008 10:23:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2300698 From the BBC "The move was prompted by countries which demanded the operating system before placing an order." I guess choice isn't an option you support. Oh and blue screen jokes? really on the cutting edge here aren't we. From the BBC

“The move was prompted by countries which demanded the operating system before placing an order.”

I guess choice isn’t an option you support.

Oh and blue screen jokes? really on the cutting edge here aren’t we.

]]> By: Windows auch auf Kindercomputern bei Metronaut.de http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-2300640 Windows auch auf Kindercomputern bei Metronaut.de Fri, 16 May 2008 09:48:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/15/poor-children-of-the-world-no-longer-will-have-to-struggle-with-linux/#comment-2300640 [...] per Child” wurde jetzt doch von Microsoft überrumpelt. Linux ist raus Microsoft ist drauf. Da freut sich Techcrunch, dass sich die armen Kinder nicht mit Linux rumärgern müssen - sondern eben mit Monopolist [...] [...] per Child” wurde jetzt doch von Microsoft überrumpelt. Linux ist raus Microsoft ist drauf. Da freut sich Techcrunch, dass sich die armen Kinder nicht mit Linux rumärgern müssen – sondern eben mit Monopolist [...]

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